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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:53 AM Feb 2020

Major union flips support from Sanders to Biden...This is Great...Wow.....Go Joe..😎🎨

Joe Biden scored the endorsement Saturday of a major transit union that officially backed Bernie Sanders in 2016.

“Joe has been very supportive of the labor movement for the last 40 years. He stands for working families. We recognize he’s a great candidate,” John Costa, international president of the 200,000-member Amalgamated Transit Union, told POLITICO. “We think Joe can beat Donald Trump.”



The issue of Biden’s electability was the driving force behind the decision and a key concern of the union’s membership, which was randomly surveyed by phone in an “extensive poll” conducted by a professional pollster ATU hired, Costa said.



The issue of Biden’s electability was the driving force behind the decision and a key concern of the union’s membership, which was randomly surveyed by phone in an “extensive poll” conducted by a professional pollster ATU hired, Costa said.

“The numbers came back very strong for Joe,” Costa said, declining to discuss details of the “internal” survey. “Not only did people support him, but we asked who would be best to beat Trump, and he was overwhelmingly seen as the best to do it.“

The endorsement comes at a critical time for the two candidates ahead of Monday’s caucus in Iowa, where Sanders has a marginal lead in polling averages.

Both men have also slugged it out with union endorsements, with Sanders scoring the support of the American Postal Workers Union Thursday. Sanders worked hard for the ATU endorsement as well, and on Jan. 23 tweeted heralded its successful 84-day strike in Virginia that ended Jan. 16. Four days after Sanders’ tweet, Biden also congratulated the union via Twitter.

Costa said the union — the largest labor union representing transit and allied workers in the U.S. and Canada — can provide immediate support to Biden in Iowa, where ATU has chapters in Cedar Rapids, Davenport, Sioux City, Waterloo and Des Moines.


A bus driver talks to a lot of voters in a day, often more than a police officer or a fighter or a teacher,” Costa said.

In March 2016, the ATU issued a relatively late but important endorsement for Sanders, citing “his long standing fidelity to the issues that are so important to working people are what convinced us that standing with Bernie is standing with the 99% of America that has been left out of the mainstream public debate, cheated out of our jobs and denied the true meaning of the American dream.”

The prospect of a second Trump term in the White House proved too troubling to the union for them to wager on Sanders.

“We appreciate Sen. Sanders,” Costa said. “We don’t want to say anything bad about him. But this is about beating Trump and our members believe Joe is the best one to do it.”





https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/01/biden-amalgamated-transit-union-endorsement-110153







If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Major union flips support from Sanders to Biden...This is Great...Wow.....Go Joe..😎🎨 (Original Post) Iamaartist Feb 2020 OP
Question DownriverDem Feb 2020 #1
I guess they believe in promises that wont happen...Go Joe..... Iamaartist Feb 2020 #2
Because nothing is guaranteed and who is "electable" is arguable. MH1 Feb 2020 #9
A lot of people think anyone can knock Trump out. RandySF Feb 2020 #27
That's a big "GET" for Biden and a very humiliating REJECTION of Burny. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #40
Because Biden can't beat Trump. OliverQ Feb 2020 #43
. "We think Joe can beat Donald Trump." ATU! Cha Feb 2020 #3
K&R Iamaartist Feb 2020 #4
Make that 2!! onetexan Feb 2020 #17
Aloha, onetexan! Cha Feb 2020 #23
Great graphics Iamaartist and great endorsement!!! still_one Feb 2020 #5
K&R still-one Iamaartist Feb 2020 #6
+++ still_one Feb 2020 #7
+++ Iamaartist Feb 2020 #8
That is interesting. paleotn Feb 2020 #10
Yes interesting...😎 Iamaartist Feb 2020 #11
The Ship is listing...we need a steady hand on wheel ashredux Feb 2020 #12
I get the feeling that upper management decided to endorse Bernie Sanders... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #13
Actually other way around marlakay Feb 2020 #14
But not in 2016. Yes? Maybe I am missing something. Or maybe you mean just BART management emmaverybo Feb 2020 #30
i agree ... Iamaartist Feb 2020 #50
We all need to believe in Joe! flamingdem Feb 2020 #15
Agree..Go Joe Iamaartist Feb 2020 #18
K&R Scurrilous Feb 2020 #16
K&R Iamaartist Feb 2020 #19
Way to go, Joe! peggysue2 Feb 2020 #20
Way To Go Joe..... Iamaartist Feb 2020 #34
Great news for Joe! HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #21
Great Go Joe !!! Iamaartist Feb 2020 #35
This is a BFD Gothmog Feb 2020 #22
Yes! This is yuuuge! R B Garr Feb 2020 #24
Dance Iamaartist Feb 2020 #36
The twitter mob is angry. lapucelle Feb 2020 #32
This is a BD...Thanks for The information .... Iamaartist Feb 2020 #38
This is awesome news for Joe. showblue22 Feb 2020 #25
K&R Iamaartist Feb 2020 #39
Unions like to keep the benefits they worked hard to get. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #26
Agree.... Iamaartist Feb 2020 #47
Great news! NYMinute Feb 2020 #28
LOL Iamaartist Feb 2020 #48
Love Joe Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #29
Agree..That Trump con gotta go....and GOP... Iamaartist Feb 2020 #45
Iamhappy! Thanks! Beautiful graphics. Bold and big and joyous! emmaverybo Feb 2020 #31
Go Joe....dance Iamaartist Feb 2020 #37
Amazing. Gives me joy. Be-bopping delightful flamingo. With the glasses! emmaverybo Feb 2020 #42
My favorite bird....🦩 Iamaartist Feb 2020 #44
K&R Tarheel_Dem Feb 2020 #33
K&R Iamaartist Feb 2020 #46
Electability's huge, but I wish the reason cited had been good character. Hortensis Feb 2020 #41
Alot of the voters dont understand how important this election is to get rid of the con.... Iamaartist Feb 2020 #49
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
1. Question
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:58 AM
Feb 2020

Why do folks support a candidate who can't win? Biden can win enough states to beat trump. Go Joe!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
2. I guess they believe in promises that wont happen...Go Joe.....
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:02 AM
Feb 2020

Keep rolling Joe

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MH1

(17,600 posts)
9. Because nothing is guaranteed and who is "electable" is arguable.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:21 AM
Feb 2020

Oh, I agree that electability IS important. But there are a lot of factors to be considered.

I think some people genuinely believe that ANY one running for the other major party (us) against Trump, can beat Trump because he is so awful. I think that is tragically incorrect but if someone genuinely believes it, of course they will look at policy first.

Some other people assume that all people with a "D" on their registration can be turned out to vote for the D candidate, whoever it is. I think that is also tragically incorrect. (Recent history tends to support my assessment.)

Then there are other strategic factors that I take into account - mainly how do we build the party? "Build it and they will vote", sort of.

So it isn't obvious that Joe is the only or even the most "electable" candidate. I think the simplistic analysis says he is. Looking a little deeper, it's more complicated.

(And for the record, I don't think Sanders is electable. Any more than I thought Clinton was electable in 2016. I didn't want to be right in 2016 and God help us if I am proved right again. I much prefer the question to be irrelevant in November 2020.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandySF

(58,855 posts)
27. A lot of people think anyone can knock Trump out.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:39 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
40. That's a big "GET" for Biden and a very humiliating REJECTION of Burny.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 10:09 AM
Feb 2020

People are catching on, at last, thankfully.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
43. Because Biden can't beat Trump.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 01:06 PM
Feb 2020

The young generation had the largest voter turnout in 2018. They will not turnout for Biden. Biden is banking on the hope than some Trump supporters and Never Trump Republicans will pick him and that will be enough, while losing most of the young and new voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,249 posts)
3. . "We think Joe can beat Donald Trump." ATU!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:02 AM
Feb 2020

Thank you!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
4. K&R
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:04 AM
Feb 2020

Joe is the best.....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
17. Make that 2!!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:10 PM
Feb 2020

Aloha Cha!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,249 posts)
23. Aloha, onetexan!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:09 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,195 posts)
5. Great graphics Iamaartist and great endorsement!!!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:12 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
11. Yes interesting...😎
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:57 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ashredux

(2,606 posts)
12. The Ship is listing...we need a steady hand on wheel
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 11:38 AM
Feb 2020

That is Joe Biden

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
13. I get the feeling that upper management decided to endorse Bernie Sanders...
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020

without actually checking with the rank and file. Then, they heard from the rank and file, and the average Joe's wanted a change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marlakay

(11,468 posts)
14. Actually other way around
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 12:49 PM
Feb 2020

We belong to that union. They always send out stuff telling you who they are for and we just do who we want.

But management especially at Bart makes good money so more likely to vote for a more moderate candidate. The whole time my hubby worked there they always chose the moderate one.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
30. But not in 2016. Yes? Maybe I am missing something. Or maybe you mean just BART management
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:58 PM
Feb 2020

goes for moderate and was over-ridden by the union as a whole entity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
15. We all need to believe in Joe!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 12:51 PM
Feb 2020

Joe for the win against tyranny 2020!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
24. Yes! This is yuuuge!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:14 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
32. The twitter mob is angry.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:03 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
38. This is a BD...Thanks for The information ....
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:16 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
25. This is awesome news for Joe.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:20 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,818 posts)
26. Unions like to keep the benefits they worked hard to get.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:34 PM
Feb 2020

That includes health insurance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
28. Great news!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:48 PM
Feb 2020

That union's koolaid delivery was late .....

Go Joe

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Joinfortmill

(14,425 posts)
29. Love Joe
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:52 PM
Feb 2020

The more Trump tries to smear Joe, the more popular he becomes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
45. Agree..That Trump con gotta go....and GOP...
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:17 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
31. Iamhappy! Thanks! Beautiful graphics. Bold and big and joyous!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 10:01 PM
Feb 2020


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
42. Amazing. Gives me joy. Be-bopping delightful flamingo. With the glasses!
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 01:02 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
44. My favorite bird....🦩
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:10 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
41. Electability's huge, but I wish the reason cited had been good character.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 10:58 AM
Feb 2020

Bad character has taken over on the right and become dangerously destructive. And in spite of that it's given very little attention, even among a left that's watching in horror, many seemingly obvious to signs of danger from the left.

And I believe this lack of attention is in large part due to that "giant right wing (including Russia) conspiracy" to destroy us through corruption, demoralization, and degradation of the electorate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
49. Alot of the voters dont understand how important this election is to get rid of the con....
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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