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Norah ODonnell Confronts Bernie Sanders on Campaign Promises: You Dont Know How Much Your Plan Costs?..........
Your agenda has promised free healthcare for everybody, free college tuition, and to pay off peoples college loans, ODonnell said, and asked The price tag for that is estimated to be $60 trillion dollars over 10 years, correct?
You dont know, nobody knows, this is impossible, Sanders said, as ODonnell cut him off again.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/norah-odonnell-confronts-bernie-sanders-on-campaign-promises-you-dont-know-how-much-your-plan-costs/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,240 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)and how he will pay for them. Would this be his answer to congress? How does he expect to get any plan off the ground if he cant even estimate its costs. We have record high deficits and a hell of a lot of need in this country so of course taxpayers want a better idea of what Sanders will be asking us all to invest. .
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)We don't elect kings and dictators. That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Bernie's making the obvious point that nobody knows exactly what health care inflation is going to be the next decade. And the American people are paying that much, Single Payer or no. With M4A, the amount will be less, due to the savings, efficiency, and bargaining power.
Something a 12 year old can understand.
But the media is competing to see who can "score a point."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)How can anyone vote for a "plan" without knowing all the details or cost?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)The amount his plan costs will depend on how much health care costs will grow over the next decade. Which nobody knows. There are forecasts, sure, but they differ, because, again, nobody can say exactly. It will be lower with M4A, that we can say.
He's being truthful, which voters appreciate, even though media figures are more interested in trying to score points.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...the projected cost per year - like 2021, 2022, 2023, etc. Everyone knows that plans change over time, but going into it he can't even tell us.
If I were to say our current system is lower, surely I'd be bombarded with requests to explain. Why doesn't he?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Because single payer reduces administrative overhead. It is more efficient. It also has more bargaining power with drug companies and healthcare providers which results in lower prices.
There are a lot of studies that give projected costs for year. But they don't all give the same number. None of them "know", they are just estimates. Which is exactly what Bernie said. The journalist just interrupted and pretended not to understand the obvious so she could get her "score" and Bernie-haters would post it on twitter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,240 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)Link to tweet
Sanders' plan would also increase the size of government far more than any modern Republican president, including Ronald Reagan, has sought to cut it, Summers' analysis concluded.
"On the spending side, ... this is far more radical than all previous presidencies, on either the right or the left," Summers said in an interview. "The Sanders spending increase is roughly 2.5 times the size of the New Deal and the estimated fiscal impact of George McGovern's campaign proposals. This is six times as large of a growth of government than any of the Ronald Reagan dismemberments. We are in a kind of new era of radical proposal."
Exact cost projections on all of Sanders' proposals aren't available, in part because he hasn't fully fleshed out some of the ideas he's embraced (such as universal pre-K and child care). But a wide variety of estimates put the likely cost of the single-payer health care plan he has endorsed around $30 trillion or more over the next decade. Depending on the estimates used, including projections from his own campaign, the other elements of the Sanders agenda -- ranging from his "Green New Deal" to the cancellation of all student debt to a guaranteed federal jobs program that has received almost no scrutiny -- could cost about as much, or even more than, the single-payer plan. That would potentially bring his 10-year total for new spending to around $60 trillion, or more.
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,387 posts)explaining to the American voter how he's he'll to pay for his proposals?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden