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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 05:01 PM Jan 2020

Betting markets point to Bernie being most electable.

Bernie now has the best odds of winning the primaries according to betting markets. He's at 43%, to Biden's 31%.

But what's more interesting is what the markets have to say about electability. If you look at the market for president outright, we get
Trump 48
Bernie 30
Biden 13

Which is a remarkably strong show of support for the argument that Bernie is the most electable. What it implies is that if Bernie does win the primary, his chances of going on to beat Trump are 30/43 = 70%. On the other hand, if Biden wins the primary, his chances are then 13/31 = 42%.

So, yeah, all the Never Trump pundits and the centrists on twitter can insist all they want that "Bernie can't win". If they want, they can put their money where their mouth is. Because people who are betting money, instead of writing articles, see Bernie as handily the most electable. No wonder all those Republicans pundits are trying to tell us not to nominate Bernie.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/1/US-Elections

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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tandem5

(2,072 posts)
1. I've found that the betting markets are 100% accurate after the outcome is determined.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 05:08 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
2. Well then, usin Joe's own main argument, which no longer holds, we should all vote for Bernie
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 05:09 PM
Jan 2020

since now it's Bernie who's the most electable. Thanks Joe for unwittingly making the case for Bernie... I love it!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #2)

 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
3. The Neo-Liberal Grifter Class
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 05:11 PM
Jan 2020

are not afraid Bernie is going to lose, they are afraid Bernie is going to win …. If Bernie wins , their gravy train is turned over ...Who would give 2 dimes to Third Way if we elect President Sanders ?...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
9. Who exactly is the "neo-liberal grifter class?"
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 07:00 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
15. Not IF, but WHEN we elect President Sanders!! He's the most popular, electable & progressive...
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 12:35 AM
Feb 2020

NO WAY BERNIE LOSES!! He's the only one who can CRUSH the Shitstain-in-Chief!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. It's known as laying off.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 05:13 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
5. Is that a river in Egypt?
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
7. Says the DUer who refuses to answer why Bernie would be supported by Russia...
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:57 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
6. I'm still betting on far and away the better candidate: Joe Biden. More credibility here and
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 05:21 PM
Jan 2020

throughout the world. More accomplished. Proven leadership. Wide appeal across political spectrum and diverse demographics. Deeper and larger campaign themes and issues. FP cred.
Would never be proud of Joe Rogan endorsement. Gracious and kind personality. Enjoys saying
Happy Birthday. Will never push Jill out of the way. Supports Dem candidates. Champions women.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,247 posts)
10. trump would destroy a weak candidate like sanders
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jan 2020

In addition to the well written 101 page memorandum with oppo on sanders with a 1000 pages of backup from the Clinton campaign trump has his own oppo file on sanders that would destroy such a weak and divisive candidate like sanders. Trump had a two foot thick book of oppo research on Sanders http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044

They ignored the fact that Sanders had not yet faced a real campaign against him. Clinton was in the delicate position of dealing with a large portion of voters who treated Sanders more like the Messiah than just another candidate. She was playing the long game—attacking Sanders strongly enough to win, but gently enough to avoid alienating his supporters. Given her overwhelming support from communities of color—for example, about 70 percent of African-American voters cast their ballot for her—Clinton had a firewall that would be difficult for Sanders to breach....

So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers....

The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I don’t know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.

sanders was such a weak primary candidate that the Clinton campaign did not use its oppo but trump would have fun destroying such a weak candidate like sanders
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
12. I assume you're going to bet the farm then.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 07:06 PM
Jan 2020

Let us know how that goes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
14. If he's such a guaranteed winner
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jan 2020

why didn't he just skip the primary bullshit and run as an Independent? Because he's not going to need the party's help...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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