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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:38 AM Jan 2020

Joe Biden swipes at Bernie Sanders as the Iowa caucuses close in,,,,Go Joe...😎🎨

Former Vice President Joe Biden took a direct swipe at Bernie Sanders on Thursday, noting that the senator from Vermont, one of his top competitors in Iowa's caucuses just days away, is not a Democrat.
Biden told reporters that the contrast between Sanders and him is "self-evident," and when asked to expand, said simply, "I'm a Democrat."
Pressed on whether he believes that means Sanders is not, he said, "Well, he says he's not. He's not registered as a Democrat."

Sanders, a Vermont independent who caucuses with Senate Democrats, signed a Democratic Party pledge last year affirming that he would run for president as a Democrat and would serve as one if elected.
Biden continued Thursday that another difference between the two is that Sanders has not acknowledged how much his health care plan will cost, whereas Biden said he had.
"Everything I've suggested to you, that I want to do, I've figured how to pay for it. He's acknowledged he doesn't even know what 'Medicare for All' is going to cost, and how he's going to do it. How do you get something done that way?" Biden said at an impromptu Dairy Queen stop in Pella, Iowa.




https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/politics/joe-biden-bernie-sanders-iowa/index.html


















Go Joe....😎🎨

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Joe Biden swipes at Bernie Sanders as the Iowa caucuses close in,,,,Go Joe...😎🎨 (Original Post) Iamaartist Jan 2020 OP
Salient point by JB empedocles Jan 2020 #1
Yeah for Joe Gothmog Jan 2020 #2
It's about time....😎 Iamaartist Jan 2020 #3
I'm Tired Of The Bickering DallasNE Jan 2020 #4
There was no bickering. NCProgressive Jan 2020 #6
No he wasn't. He was asked what he meant by his comment KPN Jan 2020 #12
What did you want him to do? NCProgressive Jan 2020 #13
So, no primary for you? robbedvoter Jan 2020 #7
Go Joe !! KnR NCProgressive Jan 2020 #5
K&R Iamaartist Jan 2020 #10
Joe going low. Must have seen the polls. DanTex Jan 2020 #8
He speaks the truth... Iamaartist Jan 2020 #9
I prefer it when candidates do not denigrate the Democratic party with outright LIES. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #11
trump/putin got to be ecstatic about 'no witnesses' and BS empedocles Jan 2020 #16
Well Said....thank-you Iamaartist Jan 2020 #17
That stuff Bernie said is from like 40 years ago. DanTex Jan 2020 #19
LOL! NurseJackie Jan 2020 #30
Right, so how is what he said 40 years ago relevant to this election? DanTex Jan 2020 #34
Sure, Jan. Nice try! NurseJackie Jan 2020 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author DanTex Jan 2020 #33
Agree! brutus smith Jan 2020 #14
Desperation is settin in. Why why why why? Bernie's surgin supporters, Joe's purgin supporters! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #27
Please- enough already! James48 Jan 2020 #15
Tell that to Sanders,,,, Iamaartist Jan 2020 #18
On DU I only have one idea for "we" MyNameGoesHere Jan 2020 #21
Same here. SergeStorms Jan 2020 #24
EXACTLY RIGHT JAMES!! Enough of that Mickey Mouse shit!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #28
Someone is panicking Tarc Jan 2020 #20
A Real Democrat...😎🥁 Iamaartist Jan 2020 #22
Biden needs to call on some of repub "friends" to vote for witnesses. brutus smith Jan 2020 #23
EXCELLENT POINT!! IT'S A NO GO JOE!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #29
Boy, Ain't This The Truth DallasNE Jan 2020 #32
+1000 brutus smith Jan 2020 #35
Shit like this Jake Stern Jan 2020 #25
That's because, currently, Bloomberg isn't trying to win the nomination. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #26
Bernie should have retorted: and you're a dixieCrat from Deleware 4139 Jan 2020 #31
K&R stonecutter357 Jan 2020 #36
K&R Iamaartist Jan 2020 #37
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
3. It's about time....😎
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 07:21 AM
Jan 2020
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DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
4. I'm Tired Of The Bickering
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 07:35 AM
Jan 2020

The enemy is Trump. Why not go after Trump and the blind loyalty Republicans are showing for Trumps lawless actions. In its place we have bickering. I don't get it.

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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
6. There was no bickering.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:04 AM
Jan 2020

Biden was asked to state a difference. He told the truth.

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KPN

(15,646 posts)
12. No he wasn't. He was asked what he meant by his comment
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:22 AM
Jan 2020

that the contrast between himself and Sanders was self-evident. He brought it up.

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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
13. What did you want him to do?
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:24 AM
Jan 2020

Say, "Sorry I can't answer because some devotees will call it bickering?"

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robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
7. So, no primary for you?
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:05 AM
Jan 2020

The rest of us, want one.

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
8. Joe going low. Must have seen the polls.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:10 AM
Jan 2020

I prefer when candidates make positive messages about themselves rather than tear others down. We need to be united after all this. The goal is to beat Trump.

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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
9. He speaks the truth...
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:17 AM
Jan 2020

Where have you been. ..He been going after Trump from day one ..but speaks about Sanders that's not ok..tell that to Sanders..


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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. I prefer it when candidates do not denigrate the Democratic party with outright LIES.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:21 AM
Jan 2020

Biden does not hate the Democratic party. Biden does not call Democrats "intellectually bankrupt". Biden does not think that the Democratic party is "ideologically bankrupt". Biden does not believe that Democrats are "feeble" and "corrupt".

Biden has never proclaimed that the Democratic party is an "absolute failure". You'll never hear Biden (nor his supporters_ characterize the Democratic party as being "the party of the one-percent". Futhermore, neither Biden nor his supporters accuse the Democratic party of being "the party of the elite."

Joe Biden does not denigrate the Democratic party with accusations of being "do-nothings". The Biden campaign believes that racism is real and that economic considerations won't make racism go away. Neither Biden or his surrogates smear the Democratic party by saying that "it focuses 'too-much' on Diversity".

We need to be united after all this. The goal is to beat Trump.
Yes it is, and the DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS THE ONLY PARTY THAT CAN DO THAT. We are a defacto "two-party-system" here in this country. No other party will bring down the GOP.

All I'm trying to say is that sure, there is tension arguing and bickering among ourselves and pointing out the obvious flaws in other candidates while participating in an anonymous discussion forum and on Twitter, etc... that's par for the course and to be expected.

But then... there are the OUTRIGHT LIES and other things that certain candidates, campaigns, surrogates and other ndividuals do and say publicly that denigrate and smear and divide and create distrust and suspicion and resentment... and which discourages voters from supporting the Democratic party.

In case you missed it... allow me to repeat: those things DISCOURAGE VOTERS FROM SUPPORTING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AT ALL. It demonizes the Democratic party and portrays the party as being "no different" or "the same as" the GOP.

THOSE ARE DANGEROUS FUCKING LIES, MY FRIEND!

Here's the bottom line: Lies and smears about Democrats and the Democratic party create negativity. Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections. What good purpose does that serve? Why would any forward-thinking individual purposely do and say things that harm the Democratic party and which benefit the GOP?
If I were to vote in a presidential
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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
16. trump/putin got to be ecstatic about 'no witnesses' and BS
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:33 AM
Jan 2020
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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
17. Well Said....thank-you
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:35 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
19. That stuff Bernie said is from like 40 years ago.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:37 AM
Jan 2020

I'm talking about the current election, here in 2020. That's the one we need to beat Trump in.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
30. LOL!
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:46 AM
Jan 2020
That stuff Bernie said is from like 40 years ago.


I'm talking about the current election, here in 2020.
So am I!
If I were to vote in a presidential
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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
34. Right, so how is what he said 40 years ago relevant to this election?
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 10:03 AM
Jan 2020

This very OP is about Biden attacking another Democratic candidate right now in 2020, and you seem to think that's a good thing. Warren was a Republican 30 years ago. Bloomberg was a Republican 15 years ago. Do you hold the stuff they said back when they were Republicans against them? Like, you have no problem with Bloomberg endorsing W for president in 2004, but somehow you think Bernie criticizing both parties in the 70s or 80s is a disaster for the 2020 election?

That makes no sense.

It's certainly not a consistent "don't attack Democrats" position.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
38. Sure, Jan. Nice try!
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:12 PM
Jan 2020
40 years ago
Oh, GMAFB, will ya?





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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
27. Desperation is settin in. Why why why why? Bernie's surgin supporters, Joe's purgin supporters!
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:34 AM
Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
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James48

(4,436 posts)
15. Please- enough already!
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:31 AM
Jan 2020

The opposition is Trump.

Please stop attacking other candidates.

We don’t need cartoons of Mickey Mouse beating up other candidates in the primaries, we need your ideas WHY we should elect your candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
18. Tell that to Sanders,,,,
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:36 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
21. On DU I only have one idea for "we"
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:53 AM
Jan 2020

as to why I am not voting for the Independent Senator from Vermont. <<-- And it should be self evident.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
24. Same here.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:28 AM
Jan 2020

Sanders would be a footnote in history without the aegis of the Democratic Party. Democrats allowed Sanders to run as a Democrat because they didn't want him running as a third party candidate, always sucking support away from actual Democrats. And what sort of repayment does Sanders give Democrats for the protection and elevation of his candidacy? The prospect of burning the Democratic Party, and the entire country, down to the ground around him if he and his cult don't get what they want. Bernie Sanders is the far left wing version of Donald Trump. He'll destroy the Democratic Party, just like Trump did the GOP, to get what he wants.

I honestly expect this post to be removed, but c'est la vie. Sometimes honesty is too brutal for some to cope with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
28. EXACTLY RIGHT JAMES!! Enough of that Mickey Mouse shit!!
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:36 AM
Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
20. Someone is panicking
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:37 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
22. A Real Democrat...😎🥁
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:05 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brutus smith

(685 posts)
23. Biden needs to call on some of repub "friends" to vote for witnesses.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:21 AM
Jan 2020

You know, the kind of repubs he wants to "work" with. Ain't happening Joe. You couldn't "work" with them over the Merrick Garland thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
29. EXCELLENT POINT!! IT'S A NO GO JOE!!
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:39 AM
Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
32. Boy, Ain't This The Truth
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:54 AM
Jan 2020

And the Affordable Care Act passed with zero Republican votes. There is no working across the aisle. Hasn't been for a generation.

I am vote blue no matter who in this election - a sentiment I would normally abhor. Why are Democrats bickering rather than going after Trump. There is plenty, besides impeachment, to go after him. The GDP numbers for 2019 just came out at 2.3%, which is pretty weak by any measure. The deficit is expected to top $1 trillion this year. My Social Security check went up just over 1% for 2020, thanks to a Trump change to use the unrealistic chained indexing of inflation. Wages are again stagnating. So why is Joe talking about something Bernie said decades ago? It makes no sense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
25. Shit like this
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:29 AM
Jan 2020

Is a huge part of why I’m being won over by Mike Bloomberg.

Instead of taking “swipes” and “jabs” at his primary opponents, he’s raining blows on the Beast.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
26. That's because, currently, Bloomberg isn't trying to win the nomination.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:33 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

4139

(1,893 posts)
31. Bernie should have retorted: and you're a dixieCrat from Deleware
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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