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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:08 PM Jan 2020

Could multiple candidates 'win' the Iowa Democratic caucus? New rules make it possible.

DES MOINES, Iowa – Presidential candidates have spent millions of dollars and months of their lives chasing a win in Iowa's caucuses, but new rules adopted this year open the possibility – some insiders call it a probability – that multiple candidates could "win."

Democratic insiders and campaign staffers have long acknowledged the chaos and confusion that could emerge, fretting over what it could mean for this year's caucus as well as future ones.

For decades, the winner of Iowa’s caucuses has been decided by a complicated system of state delegate equivalents, which operates kind of like the Electoral College. Unlike in the November presidential vote, though, Iowa's tally of popular support was never released.

But on Monday night, the Iowa Democratic Party will publish two raw vote totals and the delegate numbers from caucus night.

So one candidate could win one or both of the delegate counts but lose the popular vote. That would open a new layer of complexity as media report the results, campaigns spin them and voters in later states try to make sense of them – all in a year when the stakes have never been higher for Iowa to show it deserves to remain the first-in-the-nation presidential voting state.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/could-multiple-candidates-win-the-iowa-democratic-caucus-new-rules-make-it-possible/ar-BBZudNi?ocid=msn360

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Could multiple candidates 'win' the Iowa Democratic caucus? New rules make it possible. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 OP
Don't know about that..but delegates will be split mostly between sanders and Biden Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #1
Could turn out to be the Electoral College on steroids... 4139 Jan 2020 #2
Yes indeed judeling Jan 2020 #3
 

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)
1. Don't know about that..but delegates will be split mostly between sanders and Biden
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:19 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

4139

(1,893 posts)
2. Could turn out to be the Electoral College on steroids...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:36 PM
Jan 2020

The winner of individual votes could windup second or even third in delegates.

It is possible

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
3. Yes indeed
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:14 PM
Jan 2020

The Importance of Iowa is the Narrative.

As I said in the Sanders mock Caucus walk out, that is exactly the correct move for Sanders. Because of the Narrative.
Lets take a Hypothetical.
Sanders has the most votes in round two followed by Biden, Warren, Buttigieg and Klobuchar.
Because Buttigieg and Warren have overlapping geographical strengths and that is where Biden and Klobuchar are weak, with the Sanders people not realigning Warren will not be benefiting as a large part of her second choices are with Bernie. Buttigieg and warren pretty much split the Klobuchar and Biden votes unless the two combine and are then viable. In the places where Warren is weak Sanders and Klobuchar benefit Bernie more but it is close. Where Buttigieg is weak Biden and Klobuchar gain.
So at the final count Bernie wins by a bit, Biden comes in second and Klobuchar squeaks out a third over Buttigieg, with Warren in fifth.

But because Sanders numbers include a number of votes that have no effect on the Delegate math. Biden wins the most Delegates. (just like Nevada 2008).
You have three "Winners" Sanders wins the vote, Biden wins the Delegates, Klobuchar wins the narrative.

There is a way to make the first, second and delegate winners all different, but that is much harder as the first round leaders are most likely to be the second round leaders and the delegates will follow.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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