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David__77

(23,419 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:50 PM Jan 2020

Biden: "I think the Democratic Party could stand a liberal George Wallace ..."

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Biden’s opposition to busing at the time earned him attention for being a “young liberal against busing,” according to the headline of an Oct. 12, 1975, Philadelphia Inquirer article that historian and author Rick Perlstein posted on his Twitter page Thursday. In the article, Biden made favorable comments about the populism of yet another segregationist, Alabama’s George Wallace, whom Biden has compared to President Donald Trump in recent months on the campaign trail.

“I think I’ve made it possible for liberals to come out of the closet. ... If it isn’t yet a respectable liberal position, it is no longer a racist one,” Biden said, according to the article. “I think the Democratic Party could stand a liberal George Wallace … someone who’s not afraid to stand up and offend people, someone who wouldn’t pander, but would say what the American people know in their gut is right.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/21/bobby-rush-biden-ignorant-1376557

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Biden: "I think the Democratic Party could stand a liberal George Wallace ..." (Original Post) David__77 Jan 2020 OP
Heads will soon explode. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #1
I dunno... David__77 Jan 2020 #3
No they won't. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #19
Most likely this Devil Child Jan 2020 #24
It's an interesting primary season. David__77 Jan 2020 #43
Yep n/t Devil Child Jan 2020 #23
Yup. Anything you can do, I can do better! DanTex Jan 2020 #41
Anything I can do.... guillaumeb Jan 2020 #42
When this hypothetical George Wallace stands in the doorway of a school... Scurrilous Jan 2020 #2
Joe just stop saying stupid stuff. Please. Funtatlaguy Jan 2020 #4
1975. -nt Amimnoch Jan 2020 #5
BS campaign 2020.. Cha Jan 2020 #17
All of the candidates have said stupid stuff. But Biden is the only candidate Obama sent eight emmaverybo Jan 2020 #37
I am not going to pretend to be shocked , hurt , horrified ritapria Jan 2020 #6
I agree. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #16
Opposition research is a thing... David__77 Jan 2020 #18
good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jan 2020 #7
From June 2019 and Oct 1975. Fuck outta here. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #8
It is quite old, it is true. David__77 Jan 2020 #9
Hey I was 4 when he said this....so now you're calling me old????? UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #12
People are different. I'd call you a youngster for sure. David__77 Jan 2020 #14
But that wasn't praising the existing George Wallace, he praised a non-existent "LIBERAL" Wallace. George II Jan 2020 #10
I really would not dignify this with any serious response. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #11
I'm not interpreting it. David__77 Jan 2020 #13
Oh well. What Biden said is completely different from what Sanders said. George II Jan 2020 #20
It is true. David__77 Jan 2020 #22
Exactly. We should have leaders who are a little more in your face. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #21
The Politico article is dishonest OneMoreCupOfCoffee Jan 2020 #15
Politico..right up there with Intercept ...so impressive Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #25
Politico is hit and miss. Clearly the editorial oversight that once existed OneMoreCupOfCoffee Jan 2020 #27
We really need younger candidates. bluedye33139 Jan 2020 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Jan 2020 #28
i told you we shouldn't go down that road of southern democratic politics Kurt V. Jan 2020 #29
Oh, this is the kerfuffle from last summer. nolabear Jan 2020 #30
Kerfuffle is in the eye of the beholder, certainly. David__77 Jan 2020 #31
The article is from that particular kerfuffle. nolabear Jan 2020 #33
Ok. David__77 Jan 2020 #35
This is the 2nd recycle of disproved articles I've seen tonight. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #34
Well, Bernie got dinged, and Joe's ahead of him. nolabear Jan 2020 #36
Yes, but did he say say "[Wallace] advocates outrageous approaches to lapucelle Jan 2020 #32
Not my knowledge. He said the Democratic Party could stand a liberal George Wallace. David__77 Jan 2020 #38
So Biden didn't actually praise George Wallace for his "sensitivity lapucelle Jan 2020 #39
If one says so, that's their evaluation. David__77 Jan 2020 #40
Is this what you're throwing at the wall this week? LanternWaste Jan 2020 #44
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. Heads will soon explode.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:52 PM
Jan 2020

Very soon.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
19. No they won't.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jan 2020

Heads will pretend, obfuscate, deny, and double talk..

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David__77

(23,419 posts)
43. It's an interesting primary season.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:20 AM
Jan 2020

...

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
41. Yup. Anything you can do, I can do better!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:19 PM
Jan 2020
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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
42. Anything I can do....
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:21 PM
Jan 2020

my wife can do better.

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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
2. When this hypothetical George Wallace stands in the doorway of a school...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jan 2020

You'll have something!

Real issues? "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever".is a real isssue?


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Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
4. Joe just stop saying stupid stuff. Please.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:57 PM
Jan 2020
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Cha

(297,275 posts)
17. BS campaign 2020..
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:17 PM
Jan 2020






Attack Biden for the same thing BS did...hmmm?

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
37. All of the candidates have said stupid stuff. But Biden is the only candidate Obama sent eight
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:59 PM
Jan 2020

times to Iraq to handle post-war negotiations, entrusted with handgun control, reviving the VAWA,
helping sell ACA to mayors and governors across the nation, getting those vote squeezed out from
Repugs for the recovery act, and with advising him on foreign policy and relations. Also the only
candidate with world-stage stature.

Guess makes sense and talks pretty smart when a heartbeat away from being the president of the
United States.

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
6. I am not going to pretend to be shocked , hurt , horrified
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:00 PM
Jan 2020

Let others feign outrage …. Both sides should be done with this childish game of gotcha ….Until then, we have to give as good as we get

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David__77

(23,419 posts)
18. Opposition research is a thing...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:18 PM
Jan 2020
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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
8. From June 2019 and Oct 1975. Fuck outta here. nt
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jan 2020
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David__77

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9. It is quite old, it is true.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:05 PM
Jan 2020

...

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UniteFightBack

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12. Hey I was 4 when he said this....so now you're calling me old?????
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jan 2020
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David__77

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14. People are different. I'd call you a youngster for sure.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:08 PM
Jan 2020

...

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George II

(67,782 posts)
10. But that wasn't praising the existing George Wallace, he praised a non-existent "LIBERAL" Wallace.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:05 PM
Jan 2020
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UniteFightBack

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11. I really would not dignify this with any serious response. nt
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jan 2020
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David__77

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13. I'm not interpreting it.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:07 PM
Jan 2020

...

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George II

(67,782 posts)
20. Oh well. What Biden said is completely different from what Sanders said.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jan 2020
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David__77

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22. It is true.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:25 PM
Jan 2020

Sanders did not, to my knowledge, say that the Liberty Union Party could stand a socialist George Wallace. Even that, too, would be completely different.

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LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
21. Exactly. We should have leaders who are a little more in your face.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:22 PM
Jan 2020

Just not about the same things Wallace stood for.

But that won’t stop all the dredging of 40 year old stuff that does not stand up to today’s dissections.

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OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
15. The Politico article is dishonest
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:12 PM
Jan 2020

when it says: "Biden made favorable comments about the populism of yet another segregationist, Alabama’s George Wallace."

That is a pure invention on the part of the Politico authors as anyone who read the original story (from the Philadelphia Inquirer) will see. While the quotes are accurate, the "framing" is not.

Biden did not praise "the populism" of George Wallace. Total falsehood.

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Thekaspervote

(32,773 posts)
25. Politico..right up there with Intercept ...so impressive
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:28 PM
Jan 2020
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OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
27. Politico is hit and miss. Clearly the editorial oversight that once existed
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:33 PM
Jan 2020

at serious news sources has gone out the window.

Writers seem to have lots of room for confabulating over at Politico.

"With a grain of salt" reading.

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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
26. We really need younger candidates.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:29 PM
Jan 2020

I don't want to be ageist, but it sure is ugly being dragged back to 1972 over and over and over.

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
29. i told you we shouldn't go down that road of southern democratic politics
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:39 PM
Jan 2020

of that era.

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nolabear

(41,984 posts)
30. Oh, this is the kerfuffle from last summer.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:44 PM
Jan 2020

Yep, people have to explain their past work and alliances and we get to decide what’s baby, what’s bathwater and how much more of Donald John Trump we want.

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David__77

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31. Kerfuffle is in the eye of the beholder, certainly.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:46 PM
Jan 2020

It’s actually much older than last summer, for that matter.

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nolabear

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33. The article is from that particular kerfuffle.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:47 PM
Jan 2020
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David__77

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35. Ok.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:49 PM
Jan 2020

I meant the associated source material. The narrative provided by Politico, certainly is from several months ago. And

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Scurrilous

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34. This is the 2nd recycle of disproved articles I've seen tonight.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:48 PM
Jan 2020
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nolabear

(41,984 posts)
36. Well, Bernie got dinged, and Joe's ahead of him.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:51 PM
Jan 2020

Politics.

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lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
32. Yes, but did he say say "[Wallace] advocates outrageous approaches to
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:47 PM
Jan 2020
our problems, but he's at least sensitive to what people feel they need."

What problems would those be?
And which people was Wallace sensitive to?
And what did those people feel they needed?

Do those people include anyone who was on that bridge in Selma on that Bloody Sunday?

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David__77

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38. Not my knowledge. He said the Democratic Party could stand a liberal George Wallace.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:07 PM
Jan 2020

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lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
39. So Biden didn't actually praise George Wallace for his "sensitivity
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:14 PM
Jan 2020

to what people think they need".

Got it.

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David__77

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40. If one says so, that's their evaluation.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:16 PM
Jan 2020

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
44. Is this what you're throwing at the wall this week?
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 10:22 AM
Jan 2020

Hint: ain't gonna stick.

Post-hint: another benign fail.

Post-hoc hint: Fingers crossed Bernie's campaign gets out of second gear soon and his anemic campaign becomes something to be proud of!!!!

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