Pop quiz. Who do you think was for gay marriage first: Joe Rogan or Joe Biden?

[DanTex]

No googling. Just want to hear what people think about this, and then we can reveal the answer.

[RandySF]

1. I know that Joe pushed Obama to move on marriage equality.

[DanTex]

2. Which Joe did that? And which did it first? What do you think?

[RandySF]

6. I know for a fact that Biden publicly nudged Obama to shift WH position.

Everyone knows it. Where have you been?

[DanTex]

7. Before or after Joe Rogan? What do you think?

[RandySF]

8. I don't pay attention to shock jocks.

[DanTex]

17. That's why it would be a guess. What do you think?

[emmaverybo]

18. Neither did Obama. Rogan had no influence on him, of this I am sure. Thus, Rogan did not change

Last edited Tue Jan 28, 2020, 02:58 PM - Edit history (1)

history. And regardless of intent, he contributed mightily to hate and to hurt. Progressives should
renounce him if they care about credibility.

[LanternWaste]

3. For someone who tells us how irrelevant this story is, you're certainly giving it legs.

(I get it... the desire to wrap something up in a comforting narrative is often more desirous than ignoring something we lecture to others is irrelevant.)

[DanTex]

5. I don't think it's irrelevant, I think it's a great endorsement for Bernie!

[George II]

4. Pop quiz. Who repeatedly referred to women using the c* word: Joe Rogan or Joe Biden?

Why are we comparing the political positions of Joe Rogan and Joe Biden? Has Rogan thrown his hat into the ring?

[ehrnst]

38. BOOM! (nt)

[Devil Child]

9. Rogan of course as he is a left-leaning libertarian n/t

[DanTex]

13. Ding Ding Ding! Winner!

[Devil Child]

15. Didn't even need to google DanTex as his stance on personal liberty is quite clear and consistent

Good thread BTW

[Fresh_Start]

14. he is merely libertarian

he is not left leaning.. he doesn't actually have a philosophy which is concerned about others, he is anti-establishment and sometimes that coincides with something like gay marriage and other times is doesnt' like his trans hate

[Fresh_Start]

10. why does it matter?

which one denigrates women, trans, minorities, immigrants

[Thekaspervote]

11. Rogan has said terrible things about all LBGQT people!!

[stonecutter357]

12. Pop quiz , Joe Rogan is a racist pig ?

[Amimnoch]

16. Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

[redqueen]

19. LOL

It's funny seeing the 'purity test' stuff going the other way these days.

Round and round we go.

[TheFarseer]

20. Only not for the candidates

Some want a purity test for the voters! Unreal

[MH1]

22. There's a big difference between embracing racism and misogyny, vs different health care plans.

But since some BS supporters are oblivious to racial progress over the baby boom generation's years ... hmm, maybe racism just isn't that important to the BS camp. That he embraced the Rogan endorsement sure reinforces that unfortunate observation.

[DanTex]

27. I haven't seen any Bernie supporters being oblivious to racial progress over

the baby boom generation's years or any other years. I don't believe that's a fair charge against Bernie or his supporters. Certainly not against Bernie.

[MH1]

29. 1) I have, that's why I posted it. 2) It is fair: He is celebrating the endorsement of a racist. nt

[TheFarseer]

21. God bless, DanTex

I couldn’t take the abuse!

[ehrnst]

23. Here's an equally relevant Pop Quiz for you:

Question one: Who championed Single Payer first: Ted Kennedy or Bernie Sanders?

Question two: Who got affordable health care legislation into being that actually gave free coverage to Americans: Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, or Bernie Sanders?

Question three: Who voted for military intervention in Iraq more times? Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders?

Question four: Who voted against the Brady Bill? - not just once, but FIVE times? Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders?

[DanTex]

25. RIP Ted Kennedy. A great man. Bernie carries his legacy.

[ehrnst]

26. Not going to answer the questions? I can imagine why. Especially the Brady law bill votes...

So, why do you think that Ted Kennedy didn't support Bernie's MFA push?

But the correct answers clearly show something about the 'centrists" don't they?


Question one: Who championed Single Payer first: Ted Kennedy or Bernie Sanders? Ted Kennedy

Question two: Who got affordable health care legislation into being that actually gave free coverage to Americans: Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, or Bernie Sanders? Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy,

Question three: Who voted for military intervention in Iraq more times? Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders? Bernie Sanders

Question four: Who voted against the Brady Bill? - not just once, but FIVE times? Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders? Bernie Sanders[/

[nini]

28. hahahahahahhahahah

Mother of pearl.. this whole Bernie cult gets more and more strange by the day.

[George II]

32. Who voted against Amber Alerts - Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders?

[ehrnst]

36. Oh, right!!!

[sheshe2]

33. +1000

[NurseJackie]

24. Haaaaaa!

[rzemanfl]

30. Bookmarking. n/t

[Bananaluver]

31. I read around 2009 Biden was heard saying it was a civil right. Sanders first support was 2009

also. I do not know about Rogan.

[ehrnst]

37. Sanders wouldn't support Vermont legalizing Gay marriage after stated it was a 'states rights issue'

In 2006, after stating that he opposed DOMA because it was a state's rights issue, when asked if he would support it in Vermont, he stated that it was too divisive.

The following years were something of a wilderness period for gay activists in Vermont, as many politicians wanted a break after the fight over civil unions. In 2006, Mr. Sanders, trying to make the leap into the Senate, seemed to shy away from the issue. Asked in a debate against his Republican opponent whether the federal government should overturn laws on same-sex marriage, he argued that it was a states’ rights issue. When asked by a reporter whether Vermont should legalize same-sex marriage, he said, “Not right now, not after what we went through.”

It's worth noting it was an election year for him...

However, he hasn't always seen Gay marriage as very pressing:

In November 2000, just before Election Day, Mr. Sanders and the state’s two senators accompanied Robert T. Stafford, the 87-year-old Republican elder statesman, to a news conference where Mr. Stafford asked, “What is the harm?” in allowing gay unions. When it came time for Mr. Sanders to speak, he deplored the demonization of gay people but complained that the virulent opposition to civil unions diverted attention from prescription drug costs, health care and other economic issues.

“There are a dozen other issues out there that are as important or more important as that issue,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/28/us/politics/as-gay-rights-ally-bernie-sanders-wasnt-always-in-vanguard.html

[JustAnotherGen]

34. Is Joe Rogan

Running for President?

[George II]

35. Maybe it's time to review these again, eh?

[ehrnst]

39. Such a "progressive," if feminism isn't a part of one's "progressivism."