No Rhythm Revolution: Attack of the Manbuns

[Scurrilous]

Link to tweet

Bernie supporters doing undecided voter outreach. Mom's there! Someone had to drive.

[lapfog_1]

1. The Russians and the MAGAts love this sort of shit.

Let's imagine for a second that Bernie is now the President... or Warren for that matter... and M4A is crafted by AOC in the House.

TELL ME HOW IT BECOMES LAW.

How does it get enough votes in the Senate so that it goes to Bernie's desk in the Oval Office?

And then tell me how we pay for it.

[Progressive Jones]

11. I'd take it right off the top of the Pentagon budget, and then

put a transaction tax on Wall St.

[lapfog_1]

12. so...

how much does it cost... how much "off the top" of the Pentagon will you take... and what will the transaction tax on Wall Street do to the stock market and peoples 401Ks?

And, finally, how do you get the laws that make all of this magic happen passed in the Senate.

This is similar to Trump saying "we are going to get the Iraqi oil". There is currently NO mechanism to do so. Not enough oil tankers in the world, no storage facilities in the US, etc. It is simply not feasible even IF Trump could get the congress to go along with his proposed war crime.

The same for M4A. Nobody will own up to the true cost... And more importantly, even if we all agreed on the cost and how to pay for it, getting at least enough Republicans to break a filibuster... isn't going to happen by people hoping for it. At least with the ACA (which cost the Democrats dearly), there is a hope of restructuring it to improve it.

[Progressive Jones]

14. I'm not stuck on M4A. Any decent plan will do.

I would love for the ACA to be made better than originally intended.
One way, or another, a single payer system needs to be implemented.
The Pentagon is a hole that too much money pours into. I want to see the defense budget cut, period.

As for that tax on Wall St., that needs to happen regardless of whether
the revenue is used for healthcare, or not.
I favor major, permanent, fundamental banking and financial reforms in general,
including an overhaul of those 401K's you mentioned, as well as other "consumer friendly" actions.

[Scurrilous]

21. You got it lapfrog.

Mega

As for M4A, 3 Democrats have already publicly declared 'no,' including Dianne Feinstein, who supports ACA and Biden. Further dooming it.

[Blue_true]

61. And you would still far trillions short of paying for it.

Senator Sanders has a vague, poorly thought out plan that some people simply can't see the reality of.

[treestar]

56. True. Bernie, or Elizabeth, can "fight" all day

These people need to get out of Biden's office and start working on Senate campaigns. The Senate is an undemocratic institution that will never allow the majority to have what they want and there are enough red states now to stop any progress for the foreseeable future.

[Cha]

2. Poor things.. they have no confidence in

the facts.

[George II]

3. Glad five of them had their asses thrown in jail. If this is what they're doing today....

....what are they going to be doing at the caucus?

[Scurrilous]

5. ...

[tirebiter]

4. Back in 1968 the Be Clean for Genies used to harass us at the Bobby Kennedy for Prez campaign

We were mostly machinists and veterans and would jump over the counters and engage in some f2f politicking and get them a little dirty. We held back. No Glasgow smiles or anything like that. We kept our wrenches in our back pockets, too.

[Scurrilous]

6. To the good old days!

I can remember doing a Humphrey poster for my Jr. High School hallway election display. Your story's better.

And I still remember my Dad coming to my room to tell me Bobby Kennedy was shot.

[OneMoreCupOfCoffee]

57. .

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In my case, it was my Mom.

I'd never felt so sick at heart. Tears well up now even thinking about that horrible (horrible) morning.

[Scurrilous]

58. ...

[OneMoreCupOfCoffee]

60. So just now I watched the Fred Rodgers documentary

with my wife and my mother (who broke the very sad news all those years ago) and there was a segment in the film where Rodgers deals with RFK's death...and I lost it.

Very power. What a loss. Still have not gotten over it.

Peace

[David__77]

8. I appreciate that McCarthy opposed the Vietnam war.

The cost of that was very high.

[tirebiter]

19. You'd think they'g have sought a coalition

They wanted to be in charge of the antiwar coalition.

[betsuni]

7. "speaking truth to power"

They think Joe Biden takes bribes and wants millions of Americans to die without health care.

Um ... ahh ... Somebody should tell them about Republicans. Not that it would make any difference.

[Scurrilous]

9. Bernie's rules.

He drew up a pledge and he wants the other candidates to sign it. No donations from people involved with Healthcare over $200.00.

Because most Healthcare people oppose M4A. So...corrupt.

Who the fuck put cyclical D in charge?

Biden told him to piss off. He supports a different healthcare plan: ACA. Of course he does. So broconga descends.

[Cha]

13. they can keep on

descending.

[Scurrilous]

18. Amen.

Bernie is engaging in dekulakization [раскулачивание] against entire industries and wants to sit upon high basking in the praise of Tim Robbins and John Cusack while dictating how much people can donate to candidates who they feel will protect their livelihoods.

Where does he get off.

All for something he has zero ideas of how to enact.

Bros: 'Tell us again oh exalted one.' 'Summon your pure wisdom and utter the words that explain how we'll get this M4A you speak of and valiantly fight for...for all.'

Bernie: *cough* 'Sorry, got some lobster slider stuck in my throat.' 'Ahem.'

'We will have Medicare for All when tens of millions of people are prepared to stand up and tell the insurance companies and the drug companies that their day is gone, that health care is a human right, not something to make huge profits off of.'

[Cha]

20. smh.. tim robbins and cusack..

omg!

I want to hear from actors who support Joe Biden.. Like Tom Hanks, George Takei, Rita Wilson...

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Scurrilous]

24. Nice lineup.

Nary a 'direct-to-video' schlub among them.

Cusack's latest output - The Numbers Station, Igor, The Raven, The Bag Man, The Factory, Shanghai, 2012, Martian Child, Must Love Dogs, America's Sweethearts, Adult World, The Contract, War Inc. (especially) - all crap.

Sleepwalking through movies for money...excuse me...for all!

[Cha]

25. LOL.. but cusack deserves it..

"Nary a 'direct-to-video' schlub among them."

[Cha]

27. cusack isn't very discerning..

[Scurrilous]

29. Or smart. Tends to step in it.

John Cusack: ‘Hollywood is a whorehouse and people go mad

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/sep/25/john-cusack-hollywood-maps-to-the-stars-interview

John Cusack: Obama As Bad As Bush

[Cha]

30. cusack is Stupid. he was Stupid then and

he hasn't gotten an iota less Stupid.

[Scurrilous]

62. Yep.

[Cha]

64. ..

!!

[betsuni]

23. I didn't know about the pledge. The new status quo.

The Establishment has spoken.

[Scurrilous]

26. 'The Establishment has spoken.' With forked tongue.

Don't sign and you're corrupt - one of the charges levied at Biden by Bernie toady Zephyr Teachout - but they do this:

Watchdog files FEC complaint against pro-Bernie Sanders nonprofit

<snip>

"The watchdog group Common Cause filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission on Wednesday, alleging that Our Revolution, a political nonprofit organization founded by Bernie Sanders, violated campaign finance law by accepting donations in excess of federal limits while boosting his White House ambitions."

<snip>

"The campaign finance act says groups established by federal officeholders or candidates cannot raise money for federal electoral activity that exceeds the limitations of the law. Those contributions are currently set at $2,800 for candidates and $5,000 for political action committees.

Our Revolution has taken in nearly $1 million from donors whose contributions exceeded those limits and whose identities it hasn't fully disclosed, according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018. Much of it came from donors who contributed six-figure sums."

https://www.theoaklandpress.com/news/elections/watchdog-files-fec-complaint-against-pro-bernie-sanders-nonprofit/article_560d5652-3d52-11ea-bf03-331c039a7b35.html

[Skidmore]

39. ...

Bernie is the NRA of Grover Norquists.

[Scurrilous]

48. ...

[UniteFightBack]

10. +1000....Seriously their time can't be better spent? Is anyone disrupting Sanders offices etc?

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Exactly.

[Scurrilous]

15. Bernie supporters are special people.

NY Times did a story recently how prominent feminists who refuse to support Bernie Sanders have to have bodyguards to protect them from his supporter's harassment. It's a disgrace.

[msongs]

16. reminds me of the repubs swarming election offices after gore bush nt

[Scurrilous]

17. As someone said - the horseshoe closes.

'In political science and popular discourse, the horseshoe theory asserts that the far-left and the far-right, rather than being at opposite and opposing ends of a linear political continuum, closely resemble one another, analogous to the way that the opposite ends of a horseshoe are close together.'

[lapfog_1]

22. brooks brothers riot

amazing how many in this group of "angry Florida residents" were identified as operatives for the GOP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

[jberryhill]

28. What is "No rhythm revolution" meant to imply?

Could you explain that?

[Scurrilous]

33. I employed a common trope of popular culture to add humor & alliteration to the title of my OP.

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[jberryhill]

40. Oh, a racial stereotype

Classy

[Scurrilous]

42. Yes, I'm being racist to white people who have no sense of rhythm and can't dance.

Such as myself. In fact, when others around me break out into spontaneous dance, I often emulate Steve Martin's effort in order to self satirize and underscore my inability.

To be fair though, the clapping was off.

[jberryhill]

43. The flipside is of course the perpetuation of a stereotype of African Americans

Not all stereotypes are negative.

Would you also say you are not as good at math as Asians and consider that “self deprecating”?

[Scurrilous]

47. 'I was told there would be no math.'

[tirebiter]

31. Snowflake rhapsody?

Just guessin’

[Scurrilous]

34. Broconga line.

[Beakybird]

32. This stuff is why Sanders is my LEAST FAVORITE candidate.

Behind the veneer of the sweet grandpa are the pro Jill Stein ratfuckers - all bolstered by the Russian bots and right wing media. In the meantime, Sanders pretends that he's oblivious.

[Scurrilous]

36. He sent an email a year ago.

“As we engage with our opponents in the Democratic primary, we will forcefully present our views and defend ourselves against misrepresentations,” Sanders wrote. “But, let us do our very best to engage respectfully with our Democratic opponents―talking about the issues we are fighting for, not about personalities or past grievances. I want to be clear that I condemn bullying and harassment of any kind and in any space.” - Bernie Sanders


His work is done here.

Or maybe not...

Link to tweet

They went after this guy hard. For having an tweet critical of Bernie read on TV.

Link to tweet

He's always cloaked himself in a veil of belligerency. I've seen clips of this. From him and his staff. Politico eventually busted him for lying about his son's mother and forced him to change his official bio.

"All of that was interesting. But I wanted to know not just about what Sanders has done. I wanted to know more about who he has been. So I asked what I thought was an innocuous question about Sanders’ son. How did Sanders juggle aspirations as an eager political activist with his role as a divorced young father?

“That’s out of bounds,” Franco said.

Out of bounds?

“It’s none of your f—-ing business,” he said. He smiled, but he wasn’t joking."

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-119927

[betsuni]

38. +1

[KayF]

35. call the cops on them?

seriously?

[Scurrilous]

37. They broke the pledge! "make the primary constructive"

Bernie Sanders First to Sign Pledge to Rally Behind Democratic Nominee

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128789658

[Sloumeau]

41. When people are causing a disturbance on private property,

it is better to call the cops than to push them out the door yourself. Rather than campaign for their chosen candidate, these people have chosen to interfere with some other candidate's campaign. Campaigns get ugly when people spend more time trying to bring other candidates down than lifting their own candidates up.

[Scurrilous]

45. Raymond Shaw is the kindest,warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life

Link to tweet

[Sloumeau]

46. Of course they are nice to you, Steven Cotterill. You are apparently a Bernie supporter. :) nt

[betsuni]

49. ...

[NurseJackie]

51. Aw...

[Codeine]

63. Those aren't Democratic voters.

They’re Bernie-or-bust voters.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

50. Really looking forward to what the big-tent demographic he keeps reaching out to does when he

activates them.

[Scurrilous]

52. For the buns.

[Scurrilous]

54. To the buns.

[Scurrilous]

53. Come See the Violence Inherent in the System

Link to tweet

"They were released at the scene after the arrest, with a summons to appear in court." Burnishing their resumes a la this guy.

2016 Google Winner - Most Uploads of an Misdemeanor Arrest

[treestar]

55. They'll just say it was civil disobedience

better to just chase them out. Jail time lets them be martyr.