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Joe Rogan: Cornel West Interview 7/19 (Original Post) iwannaknow Jan 2020 OP
Do I have to repeat what West said about Pres. Obama? RandySF Jan 2020 #1
Joined 2006. nt sheshe2 Jan 2020 #6
Cornell West is absolutely awful. At least this is Rogan's schtick....there is no excuse for UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #2
Great podcast evertonfc Jan 2020 #3
Joe Rogan is a stupid person's idea of a smart person. He is garbage. phleshdef Jan 2020 #4
Tell him that his stances on Dems are ridiculous? TwilightZone Jan 2020 #5
Corney... sheshe2 Jan 2020 #7
Maybe he didn't see Rogan's twitter feed? ehrnst Jan 2020 #8
 

RandySF

(59,079 posts)
1. Do I have to repeat what West said about Pres. Obama?
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
2. Cornell West is absolutely awful. At least this is Rogan's schtick....there is no excuse for
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:20 PM
Jan 2020

brother West. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
3. Great podcast
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:26 PM
Jan 2020

Love Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
4. Joe Rogan is a stupid person's idea of a smart person. He is garbage.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:32 PM
Jan 2020

If you want to promote a guy who pushed birtherism and Seth Rich conspiracy theories, you are on the wrong site.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,473 posts)
5. Tell him that his stances on Dems are ridiculous?
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:33 PM
Jan 2020

Well, yes, we should do that.

Some of his recent quotes:

"The Democratic Party Cannot Be Reformed"

"Let's dump the Democratic Party"

Or look up any of his attacks on Obama, including claiming his entire presidency was a failure.

Sorry, but I'm not going to take him any more seriously than Rogan. They're both hacks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,842 posts)
7. Corney...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:45 PM
Jan 2020

snip

West has called Obama a "Rockefeller Republican in blackface" and both recently criticized Al Sharpton's support of the president as an example of him being "on the Obama's plantation". These inflammatory remarks only discredit whatever valid criticisms Smiley and West may have about how President Obama has conducted himself over the past five years. And that's a shame because the two men would otherwise have so much to offer the country as true intellectuals.

Smiley and West were supposed to be two of the thinkers helping to place Obama's eight years in office in a wider context. They ought to have been our moral barometers, men who would advocate for the change Obama promised in 2008. With the spotlight on an African-American president and the state of race relations in this country, it was only natural that Smiley and West would shine, becoming iconic leaders their previous work seemed to prepare them for. So, for people like myself who grew up on the example they set, the spectacle of Smiley and West engaging in crude Obama-bashing is more embarrassing than inspiring.

There's definitely a space to criticize the president, but potshots only neuter Smiley and West's ability to effectively point out Obama's flaws.

Last week, President Obama delivered a landmark speech in reaction to the George Zimmerman verdict. In his 17-minute speech, he broke down the problems facing black men in this country and articulated many of the vexed issues that explain why the Zimmerman verdict hit close to home for Americans like myself. The speech was widely celebrated in the black community and, from a personal aspect, was one of those pivotal moments I'll never forget.

Smiley and West didn't see it that way. West responded by pointing out how drone strikes make Obama a "global George Zimmerman", while Smiley said the speech was "weak as pre-sweetened Kool-Aid" (whatever that means).





https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/26/cornel-west-tavis-smiley-disservice-african-americans

Fugg Smiley and West.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
8. Maybe he didn't see Rogan's twitter feed?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 07:16 PM
Jan 2020





If I were to vote in a presidential
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