Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhy waste all this time in Iowa?
Makes so much sense. Bloomberg is a smart guy. Democrats spend a year knocking on doors in Iowa when Trump will win that state in the general election. They should be starting in battle ground states. Start in Wisc, then Mich 2nd, follow up in PA & NC.
That way we are building a network in those states and winning the people over that actually matter more in the general election.
Listen to the video on this link. He explains it so well.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-bloomberg-trolls-trump-in-tv-ads-across-battleground-states/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/13/opinions/iowa-new-hampshire-democratic-primary-bloomberg/index.html
Michael Bloomberg: Starting with Iowa and New Hampshire hurts Democrats and helps Trump
The Democratic Party reflects America's incredible diversity. But the first two voting states, Iowa and New Hampshire, are among the most homogenous in the nation. While it's great that candidates reach out to voters in these states at every pancake breakfast and town hall around, what about African-American, Latino, Asian American, Pacific Islanders, and other voters in places like Detroit, Montgomery, Phoenix, and Houston? I've visited them all recently, and almost to a person, voters tell me the other campaigns have almost no presence in their cities.
The problem is compounded by the fact that the two early voting states are unlikely to be consequential in the general election. So as a party, we are spending all of our time and resources outside of the battleground states we need to win.
Meanwhile, President Trump is spending his time in Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina -- all states we lost in 2016 by razor-thin margins. In 2020, we need to reverse at least some of those results -- and we also have the chance to flip other states that voted for Trump, including Arizona and even Texas.
But right now, we are in danger of repeating 2016 in large part because, as Democrats focus on Iowa and New Hampshire, Trump is operating at full-speed in the battleground states, with field staff and targeted television and digital advertisements. Tuesday, while Democrats are on stage in Des Moines, he'll be speaking to thousands of supporters in Wisconsin a state Democrats need to rebuild the Blue Wall.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Why hasn't this obviously unfair practice changed?
Why should the votes of those few in early states be given so much more importance than everyone else?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)As I understand it, it's the parties that decide on how this stuff plays out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)(As does the RNC for the Republicans.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)House, just by comparison.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapfog_1
(29,219 posts)are all about news cycles and "momentum"
I see Bernie supporters (and even a few who claimed to be non Bernie supporters) claiming today that Bernie is likely to win both Iowa and New Hampshire so why bother supporting any other candidates... it's a done deal!"
I don't like that we pick two states with a lack of diversity to go first... but it is what it is right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,719 posts)First, nobody can STOP New Hampshire from being the first in the nation Primary unless you're going to switch to a Caucus (which people don't want to do either). It's a mandatory State Law, and they've been willing to change dates in the past to protect it.
Second, no consequential Democratic candidate will challenge Iowa's first in the nation caucus process. The only candidate who did this time was Castro, and how did that work out? The early caucus process gives candidates without name recognition and war chests the opportunity to try to develop face to face campaigning into a movement. Nobody will be willing to give up that opportunity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LeftTurn3623
(628 posts)The party can decide to not count their votes if they do not step inline
The party does that now if states try and move up.
anything can change and it needs to
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)It is absolutely insulting to our party that two overwhelmingly white states foist upon us the front runner(s) when NV and SC look far more like our parry and our country than IA and NH.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Mouth
(3,164 posts)Better to test your organization and get your newer people experienced in smaller. less critical and more homogeneous states. California or Super Tuesday is not the time to find flaws in your procedures, software,or people. If your mailing list or phone banking software is shit, the time to find it out is in New Hampshire, not Texas.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LeftTurn3623
(628 posts)This needs to change.
This is not about tradition. This should be about winning a general election and if Candidates and their staff have been running around Wisc & Mich the last year knocking on doors and meeting with local reporters ...etc the strong hold you set yourself up for in the general is so much better.
We should be building grass root operations in battle ground states not wasting time in Iowa. A state that Republicans win every election.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Ace Rothstein
(3,183 posts)With the right candidate, we can win it again in 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Michigan looks good for us as does PA. NC and GA would be the next two states I would focus on this year. A huge turnout increase among young and minority voters will flip all of those states.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Then he comes riding in on the white horse to save the day.
There will be no coronation, it will all play out through Super Tuesday, and beyond, so buckle your seatbelts, and VOTE!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LeftTurn3623
(628 posts)this is about our party getting their act together and getting with the times
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Iowa is first, so everybody better be ready to hit the ground running
Go Liz!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)when Bernie was at 9% in the polls ...For some reason , I'm starting to warm up to the state ...I can't figure out why ? . To be a bit more serious .Blame the media ...They created and have perpetuated the narrative that the first 2 states , Iowa and NH, are the be and end all of Primary politics ....This has been going on since Jimmy Carter received the most votes of any candidate in 1976 ..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided