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NEWS: Sanders Statement on 75th Anniversary of Auschwitz Liberation (Original Post) Donkees Jan 2020 OP
Kicked and recommended booley Jan 2020 #1
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #2
Well something here definately rings hollow booley Jan 2020 #3
Not buying these excuses for embracing bigots. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #4
I think you misunderstood booley Jan 2020 #5
It isn't on me if you not going to search out easily found information. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #6
You seem confused booley Jan 2020 #19
You guys are doing yourselves a disservice by attempting to rationalize Rogan's LanternWaste Jan 2020 #7
what exactly do you think it is? booley Jan 2020 #20
Maybe leave your primary fighting out of a thread about holocaust remembrance please Kentonio Jan 2020 #8
He is not the only one to have lost family. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #9
This is not making you look good. Kentonio Jan 2020 #10
I WILL NOT drop it. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #13
You're using a thread about a Jewish man delivering a statement about the holocaust Kentonio Jan 2020 #16
A statement that (rightly) says "we should reject intolerance and bigotry" The Valley Below Jan 2020 #17
Maybe keep your 'gotcha!' crap for something that isn't about the deaths of 6 million people Kentonio Jan 2020 #18
Right? Bernie can't condemn the freaking Holocaust without getting attacked! DanTex Jan 2020 #11
No. You can't embrace a misogynistic, homophobic, racist and expect not to receive criticism. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #14
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #12
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
1. Kicked and recommended
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Response to Donkees (Original post)

 

booley

(3,855 posts)
3. Well something here definately rings hollow
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 03:37 PM
Jan 2020

I think it's been explained ad nauseum why people are wrong on the Joe Rogan endorsement
Pepelhave already pointed out how Bidens' record on race isn't the best (Crime Bill, Bankruptcy bill, how overly friendly attitude towards segregation.
And it's public knowledge Sander's family was wiped out in the Holocaust making innuendos that he is less than sincere on this seem ... cheap and offensive.

But John Cusack is a neo-nazi now? I admit that's a new one. You provide no evidence so I cant' argue it either way. But thats hwo smears work so...

Anyway, to help explain why you are wrong on the oe Rogan endorsement because i like posting this video.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
4. Not buying these excuses for embracing bigots.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jan 2020

Not. For. A. Second.

Cusack re-tweeted a vile neo-Nazi anti-Semitic tweet this week.

Do you not follow the news? First he denied that he did it, blaming a bot. Later he apologized.

Google in this case is not your friend.

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booley

(3,855 posts)
5. I think you misunderstood
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:32 PM
Jan 2020

I dont' view your acceptance of the facts as important.

Google, in this case, is not your friend.


And yet here you are, unable (or unwilling) to do that.

No, as a matter of fact, I am not going to do the work YOU should be doing, looking for something that may or may not be what you imply.

Nor am I going to forget that you accused a guy whose family was wiped out by the holocaust of not caring about bigotry.. after said guy just gave a statement on the anniversary of the Holocaust.

You have no moral high ground here.
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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
6. It isn't on me if you not going to search out easily found information.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jan 2020

Get this, I am not going to link to anything that contains anti-Semitic neo-Nazi tweets or re-tweets.

You can discoverer the truth or evade doing so. Your call entirely.

But the truth is out there.

Apologies to the X Files.

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booley

(3,855 posts)
19. You seem confused
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jan 2020

You made the claim

Therefore it is YOUR obligation to provide evidence for such.

I am under no obligation to do your work.

In fact, that you say this is easy to find but won't show this tells me perhaps your claim is weaker than you care to admit. I don't thin your evidence actually exists. If you can't' find an unbiased source, that just further reinforces that belief.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. You guys are doing yourselves a disservice by attempting to rationalize Rogan's
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:48 PM
Jan 2020

endorsement as something other than what it in fact, is.




But we get it... without justifying, rationalizing and pretense, it actually does look pretty damn bad.

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booley

(3,855 posts)
20. what exactly do you think it is?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jan 2020

I am sure we could spend time guessing.

But Sanders didn't' change his positions to get Joe Rogan to say he would vote for him.
There is no evidence Sanders has changed his positions to please Joe Rogan.
Sander didn't platform Joe Rogan

These are common rebuttals to what others have said regarding this. I can only guess if they apply to your criticism as you dont' say what that criticism is here.



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Kentonio

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8. Maybe leave your primary fighting out of a thread about holocaust remembrance please
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:40 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie and his family lost many relatives in the holocaust, so how about showing a little class?

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The Valley Below

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9. He is not the only one to have lost family.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:43 PM
Jan 2020

We either learn the lessons of the holocaust or we fail badly.

Embracing bigots is NOT acceptable. Especially on International Holocaust Remembrance Day.

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Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
10. This is not making you look good.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jan 2020

Please drop it. If you want to talk about Rogan there’s plenty of other thread where you can do it without turning this into something deeply unpleasant. Sanders is Jewish, he lost many family to the most evil genocide in modern human history, trying to make this into a primary issue is just horrible.

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The Valley Below

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13. I WILL NOT drop it.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jan 2020

Sanders and his campaign are making themselves look bad. The criticisms he's getting for embracing a bigot are very well warranted.

Never again.

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Kentonio

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16. You're using a thread about a Jewish man delivering a statement about the holocaust
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jan 2020

To try and attack said Jewish man over a primary campaign issue. Despite the fact the man lost many members of his family in the holocaust and his statement is in no way questionable or controversial.

Ok, you do as you please, but there’s only one person looking bad here and it’s not the senator.

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The Valley Below

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17. A statement that (rightly) says "we should reject intolerance and bigotry"
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 06:16 PM
Jan 2020

while he and his campaign fail to live up to those values by embracing Joe Rogan.

Big fail!

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Kentonio

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18. Maybe keep your 'gotcha!' crap for something that isn't about the deaths of 6 million people
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 07:11 PM
Jan 2020
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DanTex

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11. Right? Bernie can't condemn the freaking Holocaust without getting attacked!
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jan 2020
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The Valley Below

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15. No. You can't embrace a misogynistic, homophobic, racist and expect not to receive criticism.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jan 2020

Embracing bigots does not honor the dead.

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Uncle Joe

(58,416 posts)
12. Kicked and recommended.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks for the thread Donkees.

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