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highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:16 AM Jan 2020

Politico: Republicans pray for Bernie as Democratic nominee (Republicans including Joni Ernst)

This is from last May, but there's no reason to believe this has changed -- especially given what Hugh Hewitt said last week about intending to vote for Sanders in the Democratic primary, before voting for Trump in the GE

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/07/bernie-sanders-republican-senate-1307296


Some GOP incumbents are practically cheering him on, confident there’s no way a self-described democratic socialist could win a general election against President Donald Trump and that he’d drag other Democrats on the ballot with him.

“It would be good for us to have a nominee like that,” said Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), who is up for reelection next year and sounded downright giddy about the prospect of Sanders representing Democrats at the top of the ticket.

-snip-

“A lot of people think that in that crowded field, he could break out,” said Senate Majority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.).

He added: “If we can run a race against a person that’s an out-of-the-closet socialist and promoting socialist ideas, it’s a great contrast for us.”

-snip-



I want to post this because of what it says about Joni Ernst wanting Sanders to be the nominee, thinking that would be best for Republicans.

As I've posted elsewhere today, I just found out that although the Iowa caucuses are technically closed, with only voters who are registered Democrats able to participate, anyone can register at the caucus, or change their party registration that evening to vote in that caucus.

I would love to know what Ernst's people have been telling Republican voters in Iowa about the Democratic caucus.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Politico: Republicans pray for Bernie as Democratic nominee (Republicans including Joni Ernst) (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2020 OP
I think he would be their preference, but I also think there's a secondary motive. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #1
Rick Scott has become one of the Republicans peddling the conspiracy theory that Nancy Pelosi highplainsdem Jan 2020 #2
Boy, we're really digging now, aren't we. Politico article from before the primaries started! DanTex Jan 2020 #3
Yeah, I dug so hard I went all the way to page 2 (!!!!) of the Google results when I searched for highplainsdem Jan 2020 #6
You're doing God's work, figuring out what some Republican said last May! Keep it up! DanTex Jan 2020 #7
And, i found this on the 2nd page to get up front and Cha Jan 2020 #23
It's pretty obvious that it's happening. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #11
I don't necessarily have confidence in their analytical abilities. David__77 Jan 2020 #4
Whose? Politico's, or the politicians quoted? And whether or not you have any highplainsdem Jan 2020 #8
Ernst, for one. David__77 Jan 2020 #9
Well, she might be wrong that Trump could beat Sanders. If Sanders is our nominee, I'll be voting highplainsdem Jan 2020 #12
Could be so. David__77 Jan 2020 #16
It is obvious. Trump wants him to be the nominee so badly. Evergreen Emerald Jan 2020 #5
Bernie is being used by the republicans NCProgressive Jan 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #13
No ... Bernie has to EARN the votes of Biden supporters NCProgressive Jan 2020 #18
Many Democrats said the same thing about Reagan in 1980. shotten99 Jan 2020 #14
heard from my friends in Iowa, organized effort by republican voters to crossover to beachbumbob Jan 2020 #15
It's an unfortunately easy way to meddle in our primary, given the attention Iowa gets and highplainsdem Jan 2020 #17
I used to pray for Trump to be the nominee Downtown Hound Jan 2020 #19
I hope they will, if Sanders is the nominee. But since I believe Biden has the best chance of highplainsdem Jan 2020 #20
I'm sticking with Biden Downtown Hound Jan 2020 #22
Yup, that tells you that the Rethugz, notorious LIARS, really want to face Joe, NOT Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #21
 

TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
1. I think he would be their preference, but I also think there's a secondary motive.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:25 AM
Jan 2020

I think they're hoping to foment the same kind of resentment that led some to stay home or vote third-party in 2016. Their framing is done intentionally to instigate - Trump recently saying that the primary was being "rigged" against Sanders, etc.

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highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
2. Rick Scott has become one of the Republicans peddling the conspiracy theory that Nancy Pelosi
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:31 AM
Jan 2020

delayed sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate to help Biden and hurt Sanders and Warren:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/rick-scott-pelosi-biden-impeachment

And in case anyone thinks Scott is some kind of Sanders supporter, he said last year that Sanders supporters should move to Venezuela:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/17/gop-sen-rick-scott-if-you-like-bernie-sanders-move-to-venezuela.html

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
3. Boy, we're really digging now, aren't we. Politico article from before the primaries started!
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:33 AM
Jan 2020

Some alarm bell is going off somewhere.

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highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
6. Yeah, I dug so hard I went all the way to page 2 (!!!!) of the Google results when I searched for
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:41 AM
Jan 2020
republicans vote sanders primary

I think it might have taken more than ten seconds, but probably not more than fifteen.

Really exhaustive, and exhausting, search. However do I do it????
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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
7. You're doing God's work, figuring out what some Republican said last May! Keep it up!
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:43 AM
Jan 2020
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Cha

(297,389 posts)
23. And, i found this on the 2nd page to get up front and
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 09:39 PM
Jan 2020

center.. all the signs are there.

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TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
11. It's pretty obvious that it's happening.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jan 2020

Considering that multiple members of the GOP are saying the same things in the same manner, it's clearly a strategy with two motivations:

1) They would clearly prefer Sanders to be the nominee.

2) Trump is trying to push Sanders' supporters' buttons with the nonsense about the primaries being "rigged".

Personally, I don't think we should choose our nominee based on anything the right-wing says, but the fact that they clearly have a strategy and a candidate preference is obvious.

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David__77

(23,427 posts)
4. I don't necessarily have confidence in their analytical abilities.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:37 AM
Jan 2020

...

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highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
8. Whose? Politico's, or the politicians quoted? And whether or not you have any
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jan 2020

confidence in their analytical abilities, Ernst certainly has enough connections in Iowa to urge Republicans to re-register as Dems for a few hours to caucus for Sanders, if she thinks that will help the GOP.

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highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
12. Well, she might be wrong that Trump could beat Sanders. If Sanders is our nominee, I'll be voting
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jan 2020

for him and I hope all Dems and Dem-leaning independents and NeverTrump Republicans will, too,

But even if she's wrong about that, this article shows she'd like to have Sanders be the nominee.

She's sent that message to her supporters in Iowa. She has a really high approval rating in Iowa.

So this probably increases the chances of Republicans who support Trump re-registering as Dems to caucus for Sanders.

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Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
5. It is obvious. Trump wants him to be the nominee so badly.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:40 AM
Jan 2020

The Republicans have so much attack fodder they are preparing if he wins. They speak positively on Sanders while they attack every other nominee. This speaks volumes.

Trump defends Sanders, stoking Democratic divisions
https://apnews.com/68f73dde8435dada40ecce80beac6324

As the Democratic primary intensifies before the first contests to decide the nominee, Trump and his allies have issued a series of curiously favorable comments about Sanders. They’ve played up the Vermont senator’s electoral strength and fundraising prowess. And they’ve suggested that if Sanders doesn’t secure the nomination, it will be because the party rigged the primary against him. It’s a sentiment that resonates with some Sanders’ backers who believe the Democratic National Committee worked against him in 2016, when Hillary Clinton won the nomination.

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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
10. Bernie is being used by the republicans
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jan 2020

and the Russians (according to Mueller) because he is a divisive candidate who damages any viable nominee while going down complaining about the establishment.

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Response to NCProgressive (Reply #10)

 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
18. No ... Bernie has to EARN the votes of Biden supporters
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:08 PM
Jan 2020

It is only fair

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shotten99

(622 posts)
14. Many Democrats said the same thing about Reagan in 1980.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jan 2020
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beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
15. heard from my friends in Iowa, organized effort by republican voters to crossover to
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jan 2020

vote for Sanders in the upcoming Iowa caucuses. Suspect the same in all the "small" primary states to happen.

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highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
17. It's an unfortunately easy way to meddle in our primary, given the attention Iowa gets and
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jan 2020

how unrepresentative of the Democratic Party the caucuses can be when so few participate.

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Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
19. I used to pray for Trump to be the nominee
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:14 PM
Jan 2020

because I thought he would never win. Republicans may come to have similar regrets.

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highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
20. I hope they will, if Sanders is the nominee. But since I believe Biden has the best chance of
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jan 2020

beating Trump, I hope Sanders won't be. I also hope Sanders won't be our nominee because I'd like to see some real progress made, even if it isn't YUUUUUGE change, and I think Biden has the best chance of achieving that.

But I'll VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO, and every Democrat and non-MAGAt should.

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Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
22. I'm sticking with Biden
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:26 PM
Jan 2020

But Sanders will have my complete support is he's the nominee. And I don't think Sanders will be anywhere near the pushover the Republicans think he will be if he wins. He's very popular with young people and will get them out to vote. And if they show up in huge numbers, it's over for Trump.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
21. Yup, that tells you that the Rethugz, notorious LIARS, really want to face Joe, NOT Bernie!!
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jan 2020

I LOVE IT... GO BERNIE!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

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