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booley

(3,855 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 01:14 PM Jan 2020

"Clinton says Sander's achieved Nothing. My clinic says she's wrong"

Sanders has slipped funding for community health centers in several health care bills over the years, but his biggest achievement came in 2010 as Congress was nearing the end of a bitter battle over the Affordable Care Act (ACA). After a series of high-stakes political negotiations, Sanders secured $11 billion in funding for these federally subsidized clinics that, by law, must operate in communities considered medically underserved due to poverty, elevated health risks and a shortage of health care providers. Thanks to that funding and the ACA’s expansion of Medicaid, community health care clinics across the country were able to expand and new ones opened their doors, including CrescentCare.

For Sanders, supporting community health centers was one way to partially fulfill the dream of a health care system for everyone, because these centers provide care for lower-income people and underserved communities who otherwise might simply go without it. The centers often serve recipients of Medicaid, the government insurance system for lower-income people. However, they also serve people with private insurance or no insurance who have underserved medical needs. I have private insurance subsidized by my employer, but I chose CrescentCare because it’s the first and only LGBTQ-positive health care provider I have ever had.

By 2016, federally qualified community health centers were serving 25.9 million children and adults.
Sanders’s funding also struck a chord among some conservatives, because so many community health centers are the only affordable, quality source of primary care for many people living in rural, lower-income areas. In 2015, The Intercept obtained letters from congressional Republicans praising the ACA funding for the clinics because they are so vital to people living in their districts. In this way, Sanders effectively bridged a deep ideological divide.


and that might be why Sanders's message resonates even in places like Kentucky, where otherwise they feel abandoned by the Democratic party.

https://truthout.org/articles/clinton-says-sanders-achieved-nothing-my-community-clinic-shows-shes-wrong/
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"Clinton says Sander's achieved Nothing. My clinic says she's wrong" (Original Post) booley Jan 2020 OP
Kentucky just elected a moderate Democratic Governor WA-03 Democrat Jan 2020 #1
re: "Kentucky just elected a moderate Democratic Governor" thesquanderer Jan 2020 #6
HRC should be helping zentrum Jan 2020 #2
Funny enough, I think she's inadvertently helping Bernie right now. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #3
AOC as well... six of one, half a dozen of the other. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #8
Sanders lost the Kentucky Primary in 2016... brooklynite Jan 2020 #4
I just don't get this 'he's spent his career in politics' Doremus Jan 2020 #5
Fucking pathetic. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #7
Sanders is a very good establishment politician for his constituency. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #9
 

WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
1. Kentucky just elected a moderate Democratic Governor
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jan 2020

Sen. Sanders is not as popular as he was in 2016.

He had a heart attack 3 months ago. Perhaps the clinic could help him too. I am curious about his medical record.

His political record is very clear as he is a lifelong politician with decades of service to our country. It’s available for all to review.

I believe our best chance to secure a complete 2 branch win is with VP Biden.

I don’t care about the private jet. I don’t care what Hilary thinks about him.

The case is beyond clear that Biden can beat Tru$$ia like a drum.

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thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
6. re: "Kentucky just elected a moderate Democratic Governor"
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jan 2020

Did they have a more liberal choice? What was their primary like?

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zentrum

(9,865 posts)
2. HRC should be helping
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jan 2020

...any and every candidate beat Trump. Not re-litigating 2016 because of personal animus.

Can't believe she'd indulge this when the country is in so much trouble.

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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
3. Funny enough, I think she's inadvertently helping Bernie right now.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jan 2020

This could be a 4D chess move (I doubt it).

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. AOC as well... six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 02:04 PM
Jan 2020

Word for word.

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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
4. Sanders lost the Kentucky Primary in 2016...
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jan 2020

Maybe it didn't resonate?

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Doremus

(7,261 posts)
5. I just don't get this 'he's spent his career in politics'
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jan 2020

??? The people slinging this supposed insult are career politicians too.

Somewhere there's a disconnect.

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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
7. Fucking pathetic.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 02:02 PM
Jan 2020

"...where otherwise they feel abandoned by the Democratic party."

The money was part of ACA. Which Bernie begrudgingly supported and lied about writing. Who was behind ACA? Space aliens? Who's name is on it? Berniecare? Abandoned by the Democratic party my ass:

Bernie Sanders exaggerates with claim that he helped write Obamacare

<snip>

"However, as negotiations were in their final stage, Sanders successfully pushed for the inclusion of $11 billion in funding for community health centers, especially in rural areas. The insertion of this funding helped bring together both Democratic lawmakers on the left and Democrats representing more conservative, rural areas."

<snip>

"Politico went on to quote Sanders saying, "I have made it clear to the administration and Democratic leadership that my vote for the final bill is by no means guaranteed."

A few weeks later, Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank reported that Sanders was still undecided on supporting the primary Democratic bill. "I am talking to the Democratic leadership, trying my best to salvage some positive things in this bill, so I am not on board yet."

And on Dec. 18, the New York Times quoted Sanders saying, ''I don't sleep well. I am struggling with this issue very hard, trying to sort out what is positive in this bill, what is negative in the bill, what it means for our country if there is no health insurance legislation, when we will come back to it. … And I have to combine that with the fact that I absolutely know that the insurance companies and the drug companies will be laughing all the way to the bank the day after this is passed.''

Sanders eventually voted for the legislation."

<snip>

"Sanders said he "helped write" the Affordable Care Act. He deserves credit for one provision of it -- worth a not-insignificant $11 billion. But overall, he was hardly an inside crafter of the bill. Until his effort was blocked by a GOP procedural move, Sanders supported a more aggressive single-payer system, and multiple news articles quoted him as being undecided about supporting the main Democratic bill until late in the process.

Sanders’ statement contains an element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression. That meets our definition of Mostly False."

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/18/bernie-sanders/fact-checking-bernie-sanders-claim-he-helped-write/


And who won't support ACA now because a hypothetical one is 'better'?


Bernie Sanders doesn't support House Democrats' Obamacare expansion bill

<snip>

"Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., who is running for president and has greatly influenced Democrats' policy positions, said Tuesday that he does not support a bill introduced by House leaders to expand Obamacare.

"No, I support the 'Medicare for all' single-payer program," Sanders said when MSNBC's Chris Hayes asked him about the legislation that was introduced earlier that day. Asked a second time to clarify his stance and whether he supported incremental changes to the healthcare system, Sanders again replied that he did not support the bill.

Sanders, who was brought on to support Obamacare nine years ago even though he wanted more liberal changes on healthcare, had previously co-sponsored a bill that was similar to the new Democratic plan that he now opposes. He also previously co-sponsored a bill that would let people buy into Medicaid as an alternative to private health insurance."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/bernie-sanders-doesnt-support-house-democrats-obamacare-expansion-bill








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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. Sanders is a very good establishment politician for his constituency.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 02:04 PM
Jan 2020
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