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RandySF

(58,935 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:52 PM Jan 2020

Ocasio-Cortez knocks Biden: He 'helped sell the invasion of Iraq' and 'spent years working to cut SS

The progressive congresswomen's message was a retweet of one that Sanders put out Tuesday night that includes an audio clip of Biden talking about cutting Social Security as well as other entitlements, such as Medicaid.

Sanders's own tweet comes after his campaign released a video ad before last week's Democratic presidential primary debate in Des Moines in which Biden says that Medicare and Social Security should be on the table as part of efforts to reduce the deficit.

Over the weekend, Biden told supporters at a rally that the Sanders campaign "doctored" the video. Sanders denied the allegation and demanded that Biden apologize.

According to PolitiFact, the Sanders campaign's video wasn't doctored but was taken out of context.

"The Sanders campaign plucked out what Biden said about [former House Speaker Paul] Ryan, but ignored the complete passage which showed that Biden wanted Social Security and Medicare protected, and to accomplish that goal would require making changes to the tax code," the fact-checker noted.

On Wednesday, Biden reiterated this.

"I find it amazing that we go back and look at statements and many of them, most of them [are] taken out of context of 10, 30, 35 years ago," the Democratic primary front-runner said during an interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"It's like me going back and pointing out how Bernie voted against the Brady Bill five times while I was trying to get it passed when he was in the House, or how he voted to protect gun manufacturers," Biden continued. "He's made up for that, he's indicated that was [the] past."



https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/479353-ocasio-cortez-knocks-biden-he-helped-sell-the-invasion-of-iraq-spent-years

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Ocasio-Cortez knocks Biden: He 'helped sell the invasion of Iraq' and 'spent years working to cut SS (Original Post) RandySF Jan 2020 OP
Thank you AOC!! Gotta like strong women unafraid to speak their minds!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #1
Speaking one's mind should generally radical noodle Jan 2020 #3
" Speaking one's mind should generally include speaking the truth." sheshe2 Jan 2020 #21
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggerbay Jan 2020 #7
+1000 Tiggerbay Jan 2020 #8
Well, she lied about Biden. Do you support that? SharonClark Jan 2020 #11
I suppose feminism can often be a mere political convenience... LanternWaste Jan 2020 #14
Speaking your mind is great if you're telling the truth. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #26
Unfortunately a mind is not a brain. calguy Jan 2020 #31
Did Corbyn thank for your endorsement? robbedvoter Jan 2020 #2
How would she know? NYMinute Jan 2020 #4
Barbie Dolls? SharonClark Jan 2020 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #13
Oh yes it's just so 'disgusting'.....I mean LOL. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #23
My daughter played with barbie dolls when she was 10 NYMinute Jan 2020 #15
As did my sister. Not a sexist assumption whatsoever.(nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #38
So if they change it to GI Joe they'll be all good and smear free right? This kind of bullshit is UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #24
History books are thing, you know. John Fante Jan 2020 #27
That's a smear JustAnotherGen Jan 2020 #5
very disingenuous handmade34 Jan 2020 #6
10, 20 AOCs! David__77 Jan 2020 #9
I gave up on AOC a while back. I really don't think she has much of a future in the comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #10
She will be defeated in the primary and back to the bar nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #16
Is she a lawyer? George II Jan 2020 #18
Different kind of a bar NYMinute Jan 2020 #25
A ballet dancer? George II Jan 2020 #28
Think martinis, margaritas and pina coladas nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #34
That certainly was a big part of her campaign branding. ehrnst Jan 2020 #36
+1,000,000 oasis Jan 2020 #17
Locking down that critical West Queens millennial vote for Sanders, no doubt brooklynite Jan 2020 #19
I think that vote was lost when Amazon pulled out of their deal with the city. George II Jan 2020 #29
Future star BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #20
Justice Democrats - Great People Scurrilous Jan 2020 #22
Chakrabarti also proudly sported a t-shirt brandishing the portrait of Nazi-collaborator and... George II Jan 2020 #30
That's messed up. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #35
by now.... quickesst Jan 2020 #32
I am really struggling to understand why I should care what AOC thinks? Gothmog Jan 2020 #33
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
1. Thank you AOC!! Gotta like strong women unafraid to speak their minds!!
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:54 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
3. Speaking one's mind should generally
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:16 PM
Jan 2020

include speaking the truth.

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sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
21. " Speaking one's mind should generally include speaking the truth."
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:04 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
11. Well, she lied about Biden. Do you support that?
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 09:45 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. I suppose feminism can often be a mere political convenience...
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:06 AM
Jan 2020

as your position is opposite to your own words in regards to another strong woman speaking her mind.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,746 posts)
26. Speaking your mind is great if you're telling the truth.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:48 PM
Jan 2020

If you're not, you're just lying loudly.

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calguy

(5,315 posts)
31. Unfortunately a mind is not a brain.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:58 PM
Jan 2020
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robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
2. Did Corbyn thank for your endorsement?
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:11 PM
Jan 2020

Cynthia Nixon? Other challengers of Democrats in midterms? Just checking.

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
4. How would she know?
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:59 PM
Jan 2020

She was 10 years old then and playing with barbie dolls

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SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
12. Barbie Dolls?
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 09:46 AM
Jan 2020

Do you know that or are you just be sexist?

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
23. Oh yes it's just so 'disgusting'.....I mean LOL. nt
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:24 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
15. My daughter played with barbie dolls when she was 10
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
38. As did my sister. Not a sexist assumption whatsoever.(nt)
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:12 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
24. So if they change it to GI Joe they'll be all good and smear free right? This kind of bullshit is
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jan 2020

why some folks hate Dems because of nonsense like this.

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John Fante

(3,479 posts)
27. History books are thing, you know.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:02 PM
Jan 2020

That's how I learned about the Vietnam War even though I was born years after it ended.

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comradebillyboy

(10,155 posts)
10. I gave up on AOC a while back. I really don't think she has much of a future in the
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 02:15 AM
Jan 2020

Democratic Party. She seems to think we mainstream Democrats are the enemy.

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
16. She will be defeated in the primary and back to the bar nt
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:26 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
25. Different kind of a bar
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:42 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
34. Think martinis, margaritas and pina coladas nt
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 01:38 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
36. That certainly was a big part of her campaign branding.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:05 AM
Jan 2020

Bartending to make ends meet, one of the people, running for congress.



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brooklynite

(94,604 posts)
19. Locking down that critical West Queens millennial vote for Sanders, no doubt
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 09:59 PM
Jan 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
29. I think that vote was lost when Amazon pulled out of their deal with the city.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:23 PM
Jan 2020
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BannonsLiver

(16,398 posts)
20. Future star
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:01 PM
Jan 2020

Of the Green Party? It just doesn’t seem like she enjoys being in the Democratic Party much at all.

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Undecided
 

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
22. Justice Democrats - Great People
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:20 PM
Jan 2020
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's chief of staff, spokesman leave her office (8/2/2019)

<snip>

"Harvard University graduate and Silicon Valley entrepreneur, Chakrabarti joined Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) presidential campaign in 2015, overseeing technology operations.

In 2017, Chakrabarti co-founded Justice Democrats, a progressive political organization that recruited Ocasio-Cortez to run for office. Ocasio-Cortez went onto defeat incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.) and win a seat in Congress, a stunning upset that made her a political superstar.

But Chakrabarti has made statements that infuriated moderate Democrats and caused an uproar inside the House Democratic Caucus, where the tension between moderates and progressives often runs high.

“Instead of ‘fiscally conservative but socially liberal,’ let’s call the New Democrats and Blue Dog Caucus the ‘New Southern Democrats,’ ” Chakrabarti said in a tweet that he later deleted. “They certainly seem hell bent to do to black and brown people today what the old Southern Democrats did in the 40s.”

Chakrabarti also attacked Rep. Sharice Davids (D-Kansas), one of the first Native-American women to enter Congress, over her support for a homeland security funding bill. “I don’t believe Sharice is a racist person, but her votes are showing her to enable a racist system," Chakrabarti tweeted. That remark infuriated a number of Democrats, including party leaders.

Trent also worked on the Sanders campaign, and he was a co-director of the Justice Democrats before joining Ocasio-Cortez's staff."

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/02/aoc-staff-saikat-chakrabarti-climate-1445478
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George II

(67,782 posts)
30. Chakrabarti also proudly sported a t-shirt brandishing the portrait of Nazi-collaborator and...
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jan 2020

...American enemy Subhas Chandra Bose.

Chakrabarti:



That's Bose shaking hands with Hitler (google him, please!):





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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
35. That's messed up.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 01:55 AM
Jan 2020

It's like they're attracted to the lunatic fringe. Died from 3rd degree burns in a plane crash.

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quickesst

(6,280 posts)
32. by now....
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 01:03 AM
Jan 2020

.... AOC has to be aware of the context in what Joe Biden said. For her to perpetuate the lie at this point is pure trumpian propaganda. Repeat it enough and people will believe it. AOC, like Trump, believes the American people are too stupid to understand what she and other members of Sanders campaign are doing. Right now, Bernie Sanders just wants to win, and it seems, by whatever means necessary. Maybe he'll think about doing the right thing after that.

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Gothmog

(145,340 posts)
33. I am really struggling to understand why I should care what AOC thinks?
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 01:08 AM
Jan 2020

I am not impressed with her. Has she done anything in Congress yet?

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