Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:33 PM Jan 2020

Even AFTER the "apology" of last night, Gray is still going on about this:

She was hired by Sanders. She works for Sanders. She is his National Press Secretary. Will he ever address this publicly?


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
 

JustAnotherGen

(31,937 posts)
1. She's full of shit
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:37 PM
Jan 2020

It was a freeze on Cost of Living increases to both seniors and military to address RAYgun's out of control spending.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. Exactly, and it was very temporary. There's a new dictionary out there now, "freeze" means "cut".
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. And now Sanders' National Press Secretary is retweeting tweets from "Joe Biden is corrupt"! Yeah....
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jan 2020

....I wonder if she missed the apology?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,809 posts)
5. Let's give the guy a bigger shovel!!
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jan 2020

Hello...you negativity isn’t working...hello hello

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
4. From an OP someone posted that you recommended. I included four paragraphs that didn't make their
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jan 2020

cut. Very important paragraphs

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287436537

Biden, Sanders, Social Security and Smears


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/opinion/biden-sanders-social-security.html


So, about the element of truth in the criticism of Biden: Once upon a time, there was a peculiar consensus among media figures and would-be centrists that the long-run cost of entitlement programs was America’s biggest problem, that Social Security in particular was in crisis and that something had to be done, with the solution including benefit cuts.

This consensus wasn’t based on hard thinking; it was about the attitude politicians were expected to display. As I wrote way back in 2007, proclaiming a Social Security crisis requiring cuts was seen as a “badge of seriousness,” a way of showing how statesmanlike and tough-minded you were.

The candidate I was criticizing, by the way — the guy I said had been “played for a sucker” — was a politician named Barack Obama. But Biden was certainly pulled in by that conventional wisdom, too, so it’s not hard to find old quotes in which he suggested possible Social Security cuts in the name of fiscal responsibility.

But that was then. These days, Biden, like many Democrats, is calling for an expansion of Social Security benefits. That doesn’t make his previous statements irrelevant; he should acknowledge that he has changed his position, and his history on the issue is one reason progressives worry that, if elected, he might fritter away his political capital in vain attempts to reach bipartisan compromise. (His role in passing the draconian 2005 bankruptcy bill, which got Elizabeth Warren involved in politics, is another.)


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
9. Without these 4 paragraphs you were all excited about the "serious rebuke" to Sanders in the
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:00 PM
Jan 2020

the other OP. The part in article you think is so great that show Bernie was right are" Blah blah blah" ?

Thekaspervote

6. Blah blah blah
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
7. Excuse me, that OP:
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jan 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287436537

was yours and I did NOT recommend it.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
10. Excuse you George is right. I didn't say you recommended my OP. You recommended the OP that omitted
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:06 PM
Jan 2020

those critical parts that Krugman added that confirmed what Bernie said.

The candidate I was criticizing, by the way — the guy I said had been “played for a sucker” — was a politician named Barack Obama. But Biden was certainly pulled in by that conventional wisdom, too, so it’s not hard to find old quotes in which he suggested possible Social Security cuts in the name of fiscal responsibility
.


The OP you recommended.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287435852?fbclid=IwAR1Q2sbV-mBX9S3DCUxrMu2OKi_YHb3H7ILSaVJLLstByS7S-oNLZ_eF5iE

The OP I posed with FOUR paragraphs omitted from the other OP that show Bernie was right.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=437123
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
11. Sanders or Sanders people attacked Pres. Obama ...the greatest president of my lifetime is
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:12 PM
Jan 2020

only going to get him out of the primary faster... President Obama deserves better. He is not and never was a 'sucker'...shameful thing to say.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
12. Take it up with Krugman. I didn't write it, he did. Krugman doesn't appear to be a Sanders person.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:17 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. I read the entire column directly from the NY Times site. It is very long, and the OP cut...
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:04 PM
Jan 2020

...quite a bit, not just your four paragraphs.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
13. This is what gets me. We could actually discuss what actually happened.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jan 2020

But most seem to prefer insults, hyperbole, and missing the point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,818 posts)
14. POC are Smarter than
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jan 2020

to fall for this ******** **.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
15. Big surprise.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jan 2020

Same old dirty tricks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Democratic Primaries»Even AFTER the "apology" ...