Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhy Bernie Sanders Is Electable, Too Against Trump.
https://morningconsult.com/2020/01/14/why-bernie-sanders-is-electable-too/Sanders leads Trump in the latest head-to-head polling 46 percent to 42 percent, picking up 2 percentage points on the incumbent Republican since the previous survey and statistically tied with Biden, who leads Trump 46 percent to 41 percent. The latest national survey, which was conducted Jan. 6-12 and polled between 8,218 and 8,386 registered voters, has a 1-point margin of error.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)The GOP would love to have the weakest possible candidate as the Democratic nominee
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)send up even one warning flag? They vastly outnumber Sanders supporters, you know, and a large majority of those are downright inimical toward him.
You cannot win by allowing with the right against the Democratic Party. Those whose goal is to lose can, though, and we know some of those are in bed with you. Again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)People can vote for whoever they want. Meagan McCain is voting for Biden, so does that send up warning flags too.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)The only reason that these GOP voters are voting for sanders is that they know that sanders will lose to trump and lose badly
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)some don't seem to care if we beat Trump as long as the candidate they support is nominated...no not saying you...just in general,I have seen this. It is very disappointing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Zolorp
(1,115 posts)His affiliation with the SWP alone will insure defeat in any national election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)That's the GOP wet dream for a Democratic Presidential candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)Average to below average people determine the outcome of national elections.
A man who was affiliated with the Communists, praised Castro, and sided with Iran during the hostage crisis cannot win a national election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)and most repudiate that ideology.
He will not be the Democratic nominee.
For very good reasons.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(19,968 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)Trump had a two foot thick book of oppo research on Sanders http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044
So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers....
The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I dont know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Zolorp
(1,115 posts)I don't recall reading that in the TOS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)Anywhere in life where that term has been used to describe me, both online and off, it has always been derogatory. A put down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)used here frequently to welcome new members.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)disparage new poeple to the site.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)say whatever you like. Biden is leading in the last three Iowa polls, so he will probably win Iowa, and then will have about an 80% chance of winning it all. Because of this, do not be surprised if you see posts that seem to be quite a stretch from reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)Sanders was a distant fourth.
Saw it on Twitter, will have to see if I can find a link.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,787 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)states that Biden will win that bernie has little chance
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)- Florida
- Arizona
- Ohio
- Iowa
- N.Carolina
with outside chances in S. Carolina, Georgia, Texas, Missouri
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)Arizona, which is where I live, I wouldn't count on that either. Ohio, slim chances of picking up by any Dem. I think Iowa will go to whover the Dem nominee is.
Southern states, we seldom win in the General.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)Won't that kill any chance he has in Florida?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)and months of "Crazy Bernie!" advertisements. Senator Bernie Sanders is the least electable of all of the candidates, and some do not realize it yet because the GOP is trying to get Dems to pick Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,028 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)Hillary's Emails. Trump loves that story.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Bidens did anything illegal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)like he did with the Emails. It will be lock em up all over again.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)costing trillions, no accomplishments legislatively, 60s radical theme(think white boys who never worked hawking Workers World magazines), a heart attack, and an off-putting manner. Who sees
Bernie as a uniter? Sure,I will vote for him in the GE, but many will vote against and many stay home. Baggage carried by a man of Bidens presidential qualifications and broad likability is one thing. Bernie, needing porters to carry his, is another and we need to think hard about that.
I credit him for the force of personality to found a movement for like-minded others. That is his singular and single political accomplishment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)assassinate the ambassador as well. I would vote for Warren if Biden was out...not Sanders as a perceived socialist will not win the general. And I don't like his campaign's scorched earth tactics.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,028 posts)vetted and scrutinized, as Joe Lockhart pointed out on CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/15/opinions/bernie-sanders-2020-scrutiny-test-lockhart/index.html
and the GOP isn't going after Sanders because they want him to be the Democratic nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)The Clinton campaign had an amazing and well written oppo file on sanders that was never used because sanders was such a weak candidate that no one thought that sanders would be the nominee.
Link to tweet
sanders was mathematically eliminated by the Super Tuesday contests
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Recognize it would one sees it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,699 posts)Sanders hasn't been subject to an opposition campaign by Republicans for decades.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)Link to tweet
In an interview with POLITICO, Jim Messina predicted that Trump would exploit Sanders stamp of socialism in battleground states needed to defeat Trump, keep control of the House and have a shot at winning the Senate.
If I were a campaign manager for Donald Trump and I look at the field, I would very much want to run against Bernie Sanders, Messina said. I think the contrast is the best. He can say, Im a business guy, the economys good and this guys a socialist. I think that contrast for Trump is likely one that hed be excited about in a way that he wouldnt be as excited about Biden or potentially Mayor Pete or some of the more Midwestern moderate candidates.....
From a general election perspective, socialism is not going to be what Democrats are going to want to defend, Messina added.If youre the Democratic nominee for the Montana Senate race, you dont want to spend the election talking about socialism.
Messina is the latest Democrat to raise concerns about Sanders at the top of the ticket. Endangered House Democrats are coalescing around Biden because of concerns that Sanders or Elizabeth Warren could threaten their reelection hopes, POLITICO reported Saturday.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
booley
(3,855 posts)I remember when you all were saying there was no way for Sanders to ever be competitive any where. He was supposed to have dropped out early last year.
The arguments against Sanders's electability appear to an ever-receding horizon of wishful thinking.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)super Tuesday...he simply doesn't have enough support and has alienated some recently.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(17,600 posts)What, do they think we are fucking morons who don't understand the electoral college?
Why do they bother with this crap?
Oh right, because some people buy it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden