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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:38 PM Jan 2020

Capt. 'Sully' Sullenberger: Like Joe Biden, I Once Stuttered, Too. I Dare You to Mock Me. (Part 1/2)

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/opinion/sully-biden-stutter-lara-trump.html

The retired pilot responds to recent comments from the president’s daughter-in-law, Lara Trump, on the way the former vice president talks.

As a small boy in Denison, Texas, I remember vividly the anguish of being called on in grade school, knowing that I was going to have a hard time getting the words out; that my words could not keep up with my mind, and they would often come out jumbled. My neck and face would quickly begin to flush a bright red, the searing heat rising all the way to the top of my head; every eye in the room on me; the intense and painful humiliation, and bullying that would follow, all because of my inability to get the words out.

Those feelings came rushing back, when I heard Lara Trump mocking former Vice President Joe Biden at a Trump campaign event, with the very words that caused my childhood agony. “Joe, can you get it out?” Ms. Trump was seen saying onstage, as a few giggles are heard from an otherwise silent audience. “Let’s get the words out, Joe.”

In the interest of full disclosure, I attended a fundraiser last year for the Biden campaign, but this issue goes beyond politics. Regardless of how you feel about Joe Biden, or his chances of becoming the Democratic nominee for president; whether you are a Republican, a Democrat, or none of the above; whether you stuttered as a child or laughed at one who did; whether as a parent you try to protect your own stuttering child from taunts such as those made by the president’s daughter-in-law; these words come without hesitation: Stop. Grow up. Show some decency. People who can’t have no place in public life.

What might a child who stutters, as I did, feel when they hear a grown-up on a public stage trying to make a bunch of other adults laugh by ridiculing a public figure who also stutters?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Capt. 'Sully' Sullenberger: Like Joe Biden, I Once Stuttered, Too. I Dare You to Mock Me. (Part 1/2) (Original Post) Skya Rhen Jan 2020 OP
Capt. 'Sully' Sullenberger: Like Joe Biden, I Once Stuttered, Too. I Dare You to Mock Me. (Part 2/2) Skya Rhen Jan 2020 #1
Utterly beautiful. Thanks for posting. Sullly's advice to kids was uplifting. As a former public emmaverybo Jan 2020 #9
Just read it over again - these are powerful words: George II Jan 2020 #14
I was moved by that part of the editorial also Gothmog Jan 2020 #28
(eyes welling up with tears as I read this.) The importance of granting dignity over degradation. salin Jan 2020 #16
Great article, thanks! George II Jan 2020 #2
Cool.. When you have Sully standing up for you! Cha Jan 2020 #3
Yeah, Lara, grow the fuck up! grumpyduck Jan 2020 #4
Lara has bigger problems than just growing the fuck up... Raster Jan 2020 #20
The biggest of which is that she's married to the stupid brother. George II Jan 2020 #29
yeah, well, not like Dotard Jr* sets such a high bar Raster Jan 2020 #33
Thank you Captain Sullenberger FakeNoose Jan 2020 #5
Yes, the Trumps are such a classy family! peggysue2 Jan 2020 #6
Awwwh! An American hero comes to the defense... that's the real heart and soul of this country Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #7
I do feel bad for these people...they have my pity, they are so very very lost. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #8
I hear ya, and I'd like too....pity them that is... paleotn Jan 2020 #18
I would like to see Sullenberger as FAA chairman LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #10
Capt. Sullenberger, you are a national treasure! Stonepounder Jan 2020 #11
"A speech disorder is a lot easier to treat than a character defect." dhol82 Jan 2020 #12
+1000s DinahMoeHum Jan 2020 #21
K & R SunSeeker Jan 2020 #13
Reminds me of the 2004 Repuke convention.. AZ8theist Jan 2020 #15
Oh yes. boomer_wv Jan 2020 #30
Thank you, Capt. Sullenberger. paleotn Jan 2020 #17
Powerful! Butterflylady Jan 2020 #19
K&R Tarheel_Dem Jan 2020 #22
This is a great editorial Gothmog Jan 2020 #23
Bravo, Captain llashram Jan 2020 #24
This is all white nationalism, in all its ugliness. Somehow, PatrickforO Jan 2020 #25
In most cases I don't care much about endorsements by famous people. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #26
I got hugged Thursday night by Joe Biden Gothmog Jan 2020 #27
Very cool. n/t Beartracks Jan 2020 #31
K&R RandySF Jan 2020 #32
K&R reACTIONary Jan 2020 #34
This made me smile Gothmog Feb 2020 #35
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
1. Capt. 'Sully' Sullenberger: Like Joe Biden, I Once Stuttered, Too. I Dare You to Mock Me. (Part 2/2)
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:39 PM
Jan 2020

This culture of cruelty is what drives decent people from public service, and what makes millions of Americans recoil from politics, and even from participating in our democracy. Vice President Biden has spoken openly — and courageously, in my view — about the pain of his severe childhood stutter. He takes time to reach out to children who have suffered as he did.

As I grew older, I learned to manage and overcome my stuttering, through much hard work and intense focus. I learned to slow down and to enunciate each word with precision. I joined the church choir, and found that singing helped me to practice controlling my breath, and the formation of words. I learned to resist and overcome the bullying.
I also learned that our imperfections do not define us.

The fact that I once stuttered did not keep me from being a successful U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, an airline pilot, or even a public speaker.

And on that frigid day in January 2009, when I had to tell the air traffic controller at New York Departure Control that I was about to land US Airways Flight 1549 in the Hudson River, after a bird strike following takeoff caused both engines to fail, my words came out with precision and control, even in the stress of a life-threatening emergency.
So, to every child who feels today, what I felt, after hearing those cruel remarks by an adult who should know better, here is what I want you to know:

You are fine, just as you are. You can do any job you dream of when you grow up. You can be a pilot who lands your plane on a river and helps save lives, or a president who treats people with respect, rather than making fun of them. You can become a teacher to kids who stutter. A speech disorder is a lot easier to treat than a character defect. You become a true leader, not because of how you speak, but because of what you have to say — and the challenges you have overcome to help others. Ignore kids (and adults) who are mean, or don’t know what it feels like to stutter. Respond by showing them how to be kind, polite, respectful and generous, to be brave enough to try big things, even though you are not perfect.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/opinion/sully-biden-stutter-lara-trump.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
9. Utterly beautiful. Thanks for posting. Sullly's advice to kids was uplifting. As a former public
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jan 2020

speaking teacher, I especially applaud and agree with his comment that people can lead (and become powerful communicators) not because of “how [they] speak, but...what [they] have to say.”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. Just read it over again - these are powerful words:
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:58 PM
Jan 2020
And on that frigid day in January 2009, when I had to tell the air traffic controller at New York Departure Control that I was about to land US Airways Flight 1549 in the Hudson River, after a bird strike following takeoff caused both engines to fail, my words came out with precision and control, even in the stress of a life-threatening emergency.

So, to every child who feels today, what I felt, after hearing those cruel remarks by an adult who should know better, here is what I want you to know:

You are fine, just as you are. You can do any job you dream of when you grow up. You can be a pilot who lands your plane on a river and helps save lives, or a president who treats people with respect, rather than making fun of them. You can become a teacher to kids who stutter. A speech disorder is a lot easier to treat than a character defect. You become a true leader, not because of how you speak, but because of what you have to say — and the challenges you have overcome to help others. Ignore kids (and adults) who are mean, or don’t know what it feels like to stutter. Respond by showing them how to be kind, polite, respectful and generous, to be brave enough to try big things, even though you are not perfect
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,496 posts)
28. I was moved by that part of the editorial also
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:00 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

salin

(48,955 posts)
16. (eyes welling up with tears as I read this.) The importance of granting dignity over degradation.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:27 PM
Jan 2020

Thank you Capt. Sully. Your voice is greatly appreciated. Your points are strong and salient.

You didn't seek fame - you didn't act as an act to cash in on. You acted with grace under extreme duress with the lives of so many people in your hands in the face of tragic, potentially fatal, chaos. We are fortunate to have you speaking into the public sphere.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
2. Great article, thanks!
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:41 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,574 posts)
3. Cool.. When you have Sully standing up for you!
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

grumpyduck

(6,246 posts)
4. Yeah, Lara, grow the fuck up!
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Raster

(20,998 posts)
20. Lara has bigger problems than just growing the fuck up...
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:55 PM
Jan 2020

...this is someone that willingly joined the tRump* crime family and carries their foul, fetid water each and every day, and appears to enjoy doing so.

Where do people like this find each other? sociopathicloveconnection.com?

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George II

(67,782 posts)
29. The biggest of which is that she's married to the stupid brother.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Raster

(20,998 posts)
33. yeah, well, not like Dotard Jr* sets such a high bar
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:06 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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FakeNoose

(32,726 posts)
5. Thank you Captain Sullenberger
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:50 PM
Jan 2020

You are a true American hero, and your words have weight. Bullying is NOT permitted on your watch!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
6. Yes, the Trumps are such a classy family!
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jan 2020

Don't think I'll ever forget The Donald doing his performance art mocking a disabled reporter during the last campaign.

This is who they are, the whole bunch.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,790 posts)
7. Awwwh! An American hero comes to the defense... that's the real heart and soul of this country
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:10 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
8. I do feel bad for these people...they have my pity, they are so very very lost. nt
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:17 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

paleotn

(17,946 posts)
18. I hear ya, and I'd like too....pity them that is...
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jan 2020

but I can't get past that loathing thing. They truly are, from top to bottom, despicable people. And they attract other despicable people like moths to a flame.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
10. I would like to see Sullenberger as FAA chairman
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:33 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
11. Capt. Sullenberger, you are a national treasure!
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jan 2020

What a wonderful slam of one of the many jerks in the White House.

Thanks for posting this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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dhol82

(9,353 posts)
12. "A speech disorder is a lot easier to treat than a character defect."
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jan 2020

Brilliant!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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AZ8theist

(5,488 posts)
15. Reminds me of the 2004 Repuke convention..
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:18 PM
Jan 2020

When the attendees went around wearing purple heart "band aids" to mock Kerrys service in Vietnam. When you know...not ONE OF THEM...NOT A SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF THOSE FUCKING COWARDS would have signed up to fight for this country. NOT. A. SINGLE. FUCKING. ONE.
Repukes absolutely disgust me. HYPOCRITES

If I were to vote in a presidential
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boomer_wv

(673 posts)
30. Oh yes.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:20 PM
Jan 2020

I remember that very well. Nobody likes to go back and talk about that, but I remember it. Those were the early signs of what the GOP was going to turn into.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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paleotn

(17,946 posts)
17. Thank you, Capt. Sullenberger.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:44 PM
Jan 2020

The * spawn are pure, unadulterated scum just like their father...or should I say who they think their father is. With these people, one can never be so sure, eh Lara? Maybe the maintenance guy or the pool attendant is your real father. They want to go gutter, we can go there too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,496 posts)
23. This is a great editorial
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 08:56 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

llashram

(6,265 posts)
24. Bravo, Captain
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 11:31 AM
Jan 2020

and to hell with people like those who would mock and still call themselves decent, god-fearing RW christian adults.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)
25. This is all white nationalism, in all its ugliness. Somehow,
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 12:45 PM
Jan 2020

30% of Americans - 100 million people - hate so much they've lost all decency, and worse, they have sucked the very decency from the rest of us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
26. In most cases I don't care much about endorsements by famous people.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jan 2020

This one, I do. I can't think of a more persuasive comment than this one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,496 posts)
27. I got hugged Thursday night by Joe Biden
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jan 2020

I was a private fundraiser for Biden Thursday night. I got to talk to Joe and told him that I was a stutterer until 4th grade and that my son was diagnosed with the same condition. After a ton of un reimbursed speech therapy my son graduated with honors from under grad and law school, was Phi Beta Kappa and is now a partner at a big law firm. Joe hugged me and told me that he keeps track of 19 young people with stutters.

I told Joe that the Atlantic article really hit home with me and that my kids notice the stutter when I am tired. Joe told me that he still has issues when he is tired.

Thank you for posting this editorial.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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