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highplainsdem

(49,034 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:16 PM Jan 2020

Trump tweets minutes ago: Dems unfair to Bernie, rigging election, Pelosi giving edge to Sleepy Joe

Two tweets starting here, both posted in the last 45 minutes:





They are rigging the election again against Bernie Sanders, just like last time, only even more obviously. They are bringing him out of so important Iowa in order that, as a Senator, he sit through the Impeachment Hoax Trial. Crazy Nancy thereby gives the strong edge to Sleepy...


....Joe Biden, and Bernie is shut out again. Very unfair, but that’s the way the Democrats play the game. Anyway, it’s a lot of fun to watch!
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Trump tweets minutes ago: Dems unfair to Bernie, rigging election, Pelosi giving edge to Sleepy Joe (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2020 OP
well, as we ALL know, trump is a liar...... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #1
It appears he has a clear favorite among the Democratic candidates, and this exact talking point ehrnst Jan 2020 #2
Yes and it's pretty clear why. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #3
Took the words right outta my mouth. Wawannabe Jan 2020 #9
Scared of Biden, anyway. ehrnst Jan 2020 #10
Don't be fooled trump wants Bernie as the nominee Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2020 #4
Oh indeed!! The stuff on twitter about bernie..video clips, discussions Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #11
He definitely wants to run against Bernie. alittlelark Jan 2020 #13
And what does that tell us?!! Hummmmm? Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #5
Trying to create division, as usual. bearsfootball516 Jan 2020 #6
Trump is repeating a 100% Russian talking point/wedge issue from 2016 here in ... Botany Jan 2020 #7
Sanders supporters Krystal Ball at The Hill, and The Young Turks, have been suggesting the highplainsdem Jan 2020 #14
trump and McCarthy really really want sanders to be the nominee Gothmog Jan 2020 #8
Of course!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #12
Spot on!!! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2020 #17
Shut up Trump. Bernie doesn't need your "help" KSNY Jan 2020 #15
I'd tell Trump to f**k off, but then I have integrity. I'm sure Dump would like nothing better... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2020 #16
Trump's name is forever stained in History... dubyadiprecession Jan 2020 #18
Clearly, the Lyin' King is trying to Re-Live 2016. Wikileaks Part Deux. The_Counsel Jan 2020 #19
What a ringing endorsement! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #20
They didn't medicate him today did they? redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #21
Trump's hoping the MALCONTENTS on our side will NOT VOTE in the GE. oasis Jan 2020 #22
Michael McFaul: "Further evidence that Trump fears Biden and wants to run against Sanders. One nice highplainsdem Jan 2020 #23
trump the expert on "rigging"but so gd stupid he Cha Jan 2020 #25
Trump is so-o-o subtle peggysue2 Jan 2020 #24
Nobody cares. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #26
The GOP is really afraid of Joe Biden Gothmog Jan 2020 #27
 

getagrip_already

(14,837 posts)
1. well, as we ALL know, trump is a liar......
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:19 PM
Jan 2020

So why should anyone believe him now?

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
2. It appears he has a clear favorite among the Democratic candidates, and this exact talking point
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jan 2020

was used earlier this week by house GOP minority leader - "Pelosi is trying to sink Bernie because of the impeachment timing," but doesn't mention that there are other Dem Senators in the race than Bernie...


House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), a close White House ally, spoke at a Capitol Hill press conference and, unprompted, started talking about the existence of Democratic superdelegates -- which McCarthy described as "horrific" -- before accusing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) of delaying the president's Senate impeachment trial in order to somehow "hurt" Bernie Sanders.




McCarthy added that former Vice President Joe Biden should stop campaigning during Trump's impeachment trial -- out of deference to Sanders, who'll be tied up at the trial. (McCarthy made no mention of the other senators who'll also be taken off the campaign trail during the trial.)

All of this may seem bizarre -- and to a very real extent, it is -- but it's not accidental. There's a GOP strategy unfolding, and it's based on a couple of assumptions.

First, Trump and McCarthy seem to believe Sanders' supporters can be manipulated -- a belief I suspect the Vermonter's backers will find insulting -- and intra-party divisions in Democratic politics can be stoked to ensure Trump's re-election. McCarthy's reference to superdelegates was especially notable: some Sanders supporters are under the mistaken belief that Democratic superdelegates derailed the senator's 2016 candidacy, which is not what happened.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287428484


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comradebillyboy

(10,175 posts)
3. Yes and it's pretty clear why.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jan 2020
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Wawannabe

(5,678 posts)
9. Took the words right outta my mouth.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:23 PM
Jan 2020

Scared little man we have living in the WH!

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
10. Scared of Biden, anyway.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jan 2020
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Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
4. Don't be fooled trump wants Bernie as the nominee
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jan 2020

I can hear blistering attacks now

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Thekaspervote

(32,793 posts)
11. Oh indeed!! The stuff on twitter about bernie..video clips, discussions
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jan 2020

I won’t post it. It would just serve to further divide

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alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
13. He definitely wants to run against Bernie.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jan 2020

Likely they are well prepared for it.

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Thekaspervote

(32,793 posts)
5. And what does that tell us?!! Hummmmm?
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jan 2020

Gotta wonder what sanders thinks about that...at least I do

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bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
6. Trying to create division, as usual.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jan 2020

He wants nothing more than for Sanders supporters to stay home on Election Day if Sanders doesn’t get the nomination.

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Botany

(70,578 posts)
7. Trump is repeating a 100% Russian talking point/wedge issue from 2016 here in ...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jan 2020

... with the Hillary/Democrats are and or were being unfair to Bernie meme.

God damn it Trump is a Russian asset.

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highplainsdem

(49,034 posts)
14. Sanders supporters Krystal Ball at The Hill, and The Young Turks, have been suggesting the
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jan 2020

same thing.

Thanks to Cha and betsuni for pointing this out last week when I posted an OP about the conspiracy theories:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287416027#post33

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287416027#post42

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Gothmog

(145,553 posts)
8. trump and McCarthy really really want sanders to be the nominee
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:23 PM
Jan 2020

trump and McCarthy really really want sanders to be the nominee. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states and many downballot candidates will lose https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/why-trump-mccarthy-seem-so-eager-side-bernie-sanders-n1116941

All of this may seem bizarre -- and to a very real extent, it is -- but it's not accidental. There's a GOP strategy unfolding, and it's based on a couple of assumptions.

First, Trump and McCarthy seem to believe Sanders' supporters can be manipulated -- a belief I suspect the Vermonter's backers will find insulting -- and intra-party divisions in Democratic politics can be stoked to ensure Trump's re-election. McCarthy's reference to superdelegates was especially notable: some Sanders supporters are under the mistaken belief that Democratic superdelegates derailed the senator's 2016 candidacy, which is not what happened.

Second, Republican attempts at mischief notwithstanding, the New York Times reports that Donald Trump's political advisers see Bernie Sanders as "their ideal" general-election opponent. To that end, the article added, members of the president's team "have been doing what they can to elevate [the independent senator's] profile and bolster his chances of winning the Iowa caucuses."

Which, naturally, helps explain why the president sided with Sanders last night, and why McCarthy seemed so focused on helping Sanders yesterday afternoon.

It's likely that many Democratic primary and caucus voters will look past these tactics, which is just as well. But as these efforts intensify, at least we'll know the motivation behind them.

Postscript: It's worth emphasizing, in case this isn't obvious, that Team Trump may see Sanders as their "ideal" 2020 foe, but Republicans may very well be wrong. Plenty of Democrats saw Donald Trump as the weakest GOP candidate four years ago, and we now know those assumptions didn't work out especially well.
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KSNY

(315 posts)
15. Shut up Trump. Bernie doesn't need your "help"
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jan 2020

and impeaching your corrupt ass is so much more important.

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Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
16. I'd tell Trump to f**k off, but then I have integrity. I'm sure Dump would like nothing better...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:45 PM
Jan 2020

than to run against BS.

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dubyadiprecession

(5,722 posts)
18. Trump's name is forever stained in History...
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jan 2020

And he has morons like McCarthy, Giuliani, McConnell and so on, lining up like lemmings to go over the cliff with him.

You can’t fix stupid. -Ron White

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The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
19. Clearly, the Lyin' King is trying to Re-Live 2016. Wikileaks Part Deux.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:53 PM
Jan 2020

It's the only way Trump wins...and he knows it.

First dirty up Biden with Burisma/Ukraine. Now that THAT plan ain't workin' (it got his ass IMPEACHED... ), let's move on to "the Democrat Elite is choosing your candidate! Shouldn't you be pissed? Vote for ME, then!"

I tell ya, if we fall for that bullshit a SECOND time, we'll deserve everything we get...

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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
21. They didn't medicate him today did they?
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jan 2020
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oasis

(49,406 posts)
22. Trump's hoping the MALCONTENTS on our side will NOT VOTE in the GE.
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jan 2020

A repeat of 2016.

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highplainsdem

(49,034 posts)
23. Michael McFaul: "Further evidence that Trump fears Biden and wants to run against Sanders. One nice
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jan 2020

thing about Trump — very transparent!"


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Cha

(297,621 posts)
25. trump the expert on "rigging"but so gd stupid he
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jan 2020

can't see how his cheerleading for BS is showing his FEAR to run against Joe Biden.

Thank you for that, hpd.

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peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
24. Trump is so-o-o subtle
Fri Jan 17, 2020, 02:01 PM
Jan 2020

So is his chucklehead Kevin McCarthy. Could they be any more obvious? Replay the whole idea of splitting the Democratic Party vote with Bernie Sanders as the wedge and hope against hope that they get to run against the Senator from Vermont.

They're giving away the game in broad daylight: Crazy Nancy and Sleepy Joe.

Get rid of these people!

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Gothmog

(145,553 posts)
27. The GOP is really afraid of Joe Biden
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jan 2020

The GOP is back to another Operation Chaos. A asshole like Hugh Hewett is scared of Joe Biden and want the weakest possible candidate to be the Democratic nominee


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