Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumCoalition of 6 progressive groups are out with a statement of blue no matter who.
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Link to tweet
We must end the divisiveness.
Edit: I don't know why this is not getting through to some people but just to highlight it...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Many things are said. I wait to see action.
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The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Read the statement.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)The statement is divisive. Thread fail.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)and always voted Democratic.
Membership here means squat.
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George II
(67,782 posts)The signers include seven groups who back Sanders's 2020 presidential bid and two that back Warren's. The remaining nine groups are either supportive of both candidates, such as Democracy for America, or have not endorsed anyone yet.
The three-part pledge says the groups will focus our fight for the nomination against candidates supported by the corporate wing, instead of fighting each other. The groups say theyre committed to ensuring a progressive candidate wins the Democratic Partys presidential nomination and that theyll join forces to ensure that candidate ultimately defeats President Trump.
Keeping fire trained on part of the Democratic Party isn't "blue no matter who"!
Here are these groups, most if not all are PACs or Super PACs. Both Sanders and Warren have said they're not supported by PACs or Super PACs!
1. Be A Hero Action Fund
2. Black Male Voter Project
3. Black Voters Matter Fund
4. Center for Popular Democracy Action (Sanders)
5. Democracy for America
6. Dream Defenders (Sanders)
7. Inequality Media Civic Action
8. Justice Democrats
9. Our Revolution (Sanders)
10. Peoples Action (Sanders)
11. Presente Action
12. Progress America
13. Progressive Change Campaign Committee (Warren)
14. Progressive Democrats of America (Sanders)
15. Roots Action (Sanders)
16. Social Security Works
17. Sunrise Movement (Sanders)
18. Working Families Party (Warren)
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)I don't know why there's a separate group of those six orgs but I'm trying to increase messages of unity.
Not amplify discord.
You should really consider doing the same.
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ancianita
(36,085 posts)Can't we have that understanding, too?
Am I missing your point? Aren't you insisting that their claims are compromised?
Yet, can't we distinguish PACs between corporate and group/organization categories?
Especially since they're called Political Action Committees, that would be the goal, right?
The monetary source of their formation is the proof that what the candidates say is what they mean.
The acronym PAC isn't proof alone. Not of the candidates' intent.
No one can win without PACs. We all know this.
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highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)It is consistent with the beliefs of these organizations and it should surprise no one that it espouses and advocates for progressive politics. Calling for unity among behind any of our progressive candidates is a good thing, but this goes a step further. It acknowledges that even if a self identified progressive fails to win the Democratic nomination, that it is essential for all progressives to unite behind whoever does win the Democratic nomination.
They speak for me also.
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George II
(67,782 posts)The corporate wing of the Democratic Partywhich called me an existential threat"is attacking us again because our agenda of fighting for working people is very popular and threatens corporate elites who fill their pockets.
Were making them nervous. Keep it up.
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George II
(67,782 posts)....the "corporate wing of the Democratic Party*"
*which totally doesn't** exist.
**correct grammar!
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Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Its getting too easy
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BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lees1975
(3,861 posts)with beating Trump instead of wasting money and votes on a candidate. Unless they prefer Trump and want to become Russia.
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The Mouth
(3,150 posts)Or get Putin to give the appropriate orders.
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Syo
(6 posts)The group vows to vote for only those candidates who are not "anti-establishment".
The statement bashes "corporate" Democrats.
Blue means Democratic no matter who.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
coti
(4,612 posts)The petty bullshit is really disheartening. Everyone needs to let it go for the sake of our kids. I honestly don't care which of the candidates gets the nomination as long as they kick Trump's ass.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)From the tweet:
"Our best chance of defeating Trump does not lie with an establishment or corporate Democrat".
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Never thought I'd get so annoyed with Sheldon's catch phrase.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
W_HAMILTON
(7,869 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
W_HAMILTON
(7,869 posts)They are only seeking unity within those they have defined as progressives. They go after """establishment""" and """corporate""" Democrats in their so-called unity statement. Not very unifying, but I guess it's about the best you can expect from this divisive crew.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)That's not divisive that's just politics in a campaign.
It's the HE STARTED IT / SHE STARTED IT bullshit that needs to stop. It's counterproductive and also annoying as fuck.
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W_HAMILTON
(7,869 posts)Most of the """moderate""" candidates that are being attacked by these groups don't attack progressives like that because they actually ARE progressives as well.
It's just more of the same divisive shit from these people.
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The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)It is as divisive as hell.
Same old crap, with a fig-leaf.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)Which part is divisive?
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As long as it remains frying in the primary pan and doesn't simmer over into the general again, I'm simply going to accept it as a tactic and as a standard.
Once the primaries are (mathematically) over, unity of course becomes a (necessary) strength; but until then, the proxies will bleat, the hacks will make faith-based prophecies, and bumper stickers will be pointed to as valid arguments.. and it's a white-noise I've gotten used to and even hum to these days.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,375 posts)The last 25 words or so, to be precise. The rest of the three-page statement is about "Warren or Sanders no matter who", with emphasis on rejecting mainstream Democrats (aka the Democratic majority) as "corporate democrats" and "establishment".
I am not holding my breath until this coalition issues an unconditional blue no matter who statement.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)God almighty we are just dead set on repeating 2016 aren't we. Christ
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getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)Basically money mills fronting campaigns. Pretty corporate in reality.
Don't expect them to be apolitical. That's not why they were created. Their funding is largely dark.
I don't listen to anything they have to say. They don't speak for or to me.
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guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And the title is not misleading, except perhaps for those who confuse PACs with progressive organizations.
Thank you for posting this.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)It's so disappointing to see all the negativity being posted here about it.
For all the shit people here talk about Twitter, the response there is about the same as here, so...
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The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)It is insulting.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)And I know gaslighting when I see it.
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guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)That is an interesting assertion.
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The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)it was anything but a unifying message.
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guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)That article dealt with different groups, and has no bearing on this post.
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The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,389 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,421 posts)...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided