Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumIf Bernie thinks Warren supporters will ever turn to him instead of Biden,
or another traditional Democrat, he's sure making it awfully hard for them.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/15/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-debate-2020/index.html
Sanders and Warren are the two most prominent liberals in the race, and for either one of them to beat former Vice President Joe Biden for the Democratic nomination this year, they will need the near-united support of the left. Up until a few days ago, that seemed like a very real possibility, with Warren and Sanders refusing to attack one another and their supporters -- online and off -- largely aiming their rhetorical fire at the likes of Biden and former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg.
After Tuesday night, however, the idea of the Sanders people rallying around Warren if, after the first few primaries and caucuses, she looks like the most viable liberal candidate, now seems fanciful. And, vice versa for the Warren people being cool with the idea of Sanders as the liberal choice for 2020.
And that is true no matter what the two principals say (or don't say) about that now-famous December 2018 meeting and/or the no-handshake moment in Tuesday night's debate. What happened Tuesday night seems likely to reverberate not just through the Iowa caucuses in 19 days' time but the broader fight over who emerges as the liberal choice and whether -- or not -- the left is willing to rally around that person.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)I would think Warren supporters arent feeling very charitable about Bernie right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)poor political instincts. He is alienating an awful lot of potential supporters if their candidates don't succeed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,317 posts)(dsirota, bjg, and nturner) as his top staff.. so yeah this is what happens.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)Bernie ran for president in 2016, his political career has been primarily in Vermont, a state with a population of only 626,000 people. I don't think he was ever prepared for a national campaign and in the process, he attracted some pretty awful political operatives. Then all those huge rallies probably went to his head and apparently, he's never come back down to earth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)"charitable" about him since his behavior in 2016.
He hasn't changed one whit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)I wouldn't even give it a second thought. Of course Bernie Sanders would be a superior president compared with Trump. And if he clinches the nomination, I personally believe that it would be my duty to vote for him. I don't think I'm alone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)And at this point I don't know if I would vote for Sanders because of policy or Biden because of dependability. Luckily, I don't think Warren is going to drop out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)This is not good for either of them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Always has been.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)Bernie, speaking to supporters in a Livestream tonight , stated that that his campaign has raised 4 million dollars from 200,000 contributions in the past 2 days -including 25,000 new donors .Source : Faiz twitter (Bernie's campaign manager Twitter Feed) .. It appears his supporters are standing by Bernie .. His supporters don't believe he is a closet sexist .. His record refures that claim After all , he urged Warren to run for President in 2015 .He was willing to sacrifice his own presidential ambitions in favor of a woman Yet we are supposed to believe he told Warren in 2018 not to run for President in 2018 , because a woman could never get elected President . That doesn't pass the smell test ...BTW , while running for re-election in 2018, Warren promised voters she would NOT run for President in 2020 .She transferred 10 million dollars from that campaign to her Presidential Campaign....Big donor Money she now finds morally objectionable
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)in nominating a woman in 2020.
And it's easy to believe that he is too stubborn now to admit it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,389 posts)repeats her charge then Bernie turns away.
CNN has the audio.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden