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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:15 PM Jan 2020

If Bernie thinks Warren supporters will ever turn to him instead of Biden,

or another traditional Democrat, he's sure making it awfully hard for them.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/15/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-debate-2020/index.html

Sanders and Warren are the two most prominent liberals in the race, and for either one of them to beat former Vice President Joe Biden for the Democratic nomination this year, they will need the near-united support of the left. Up until a few days ago, that seemed like a very real possibility, with Warren and Sanders refusing to attack one another and their supporters -- online and off -- largely aiming their rhetorical fire at the likes of Biden and former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg.

After Tuesday night, however, the idea of the Sanders people rallying around Warren if, after the first few primaries and caucuses, she looks like the most viable liberal candidate, now seems fanciful. And, vice versa for the Warren people being cool with the idea of Sanders as the liberal choice for 2020.

And that is true no matter what the two principals say (or don't say) about that now-famous December 2018 meeting and/or the no-handshake moment in Tuesday night's debate. What happened Tuesday night seems likely to reverberate not just through the Iowa caucuses in 19 days' time but the broader fight over who emerges as the liberal choice and whether -- or not -- the left is willing to rally around that person.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
1. I think he put the kibosh on that all by himself.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:21 PM
Jan 2020

I would think Warren supporters aren’t feeling very charitable about Bernie right now.

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PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
3. Bernie seems to have some really
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:26 PM
Jan 2020

poor political instincts. He is alienating an awful lot of potential supporters if their candidates don't succeed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,317 posts)
9. he hired those who pushed for jill stein's LIES in the General Election..
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:39 PM
Jan 2020

(dsirota, bjg, and nturner) as his top staff.. so yeah this is what happens.

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PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
15. It dawned on me that until
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:09 AM
Jan 2020

Bernie ran for president in 2016, his political career has been primarily in Vermont, a state with a population of only 626,000 people. I don't think he was ever prepared for a national campaign and in the process, he attracted some pretty awful political operatives. Then all those huge rallies probably went to his head and apparently, he's never come back down to earth.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
14. This Warren supporter hasn't felt
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:01 AM
Jan 2020

"charitable" about him since his behavior in 2016.

He hasn't changed one whit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
2. His dismissiveness at that non-handshake said quite a bit.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:23 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
5. I hate sounding so boring, but I'll vote for Sanders if he's our nominee
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:34 PM
Jan 2020

I wouldn't even give it a second thought. Of course Bernie Sanders would be a superior president compared with Trump. And if he clinches the nomination, I personally believe that it would be my duty to vote for him. I don't think I'm alone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
6. I'm talking about the primaries, not the general. nt
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:35 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
7. If Warren were to pull out, I would have to choose between Sanders and Biden.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jan 2020

And at this point I don't know if I would vote for Sanders because of policy or Biden because of dependability. Luckily, I don't think Warren is going to drop out.

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aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
8. I think it may be the same for Bernie supporters turning to EW, too.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jan 2020

This is not good for either of them.
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sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
10. Biden is my second choice.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:42 PM
Jan 2020

Always has been.

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Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
12. Warren is now my second choice.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:55 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
11. Breaking Bernie News
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:52 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie, speaking to supporters in a Livestream tonight , stated that that his campaign has raised 4 million dollars from 200,000 contributions in the past 2 days -including 25,000 new donors ….Source : Faiz twitter (Bernie's campaign manager Twitter Feed) ….. It appears his supporters are standing by Bernie .. His supporters don't believe he is a closet sexist ….. His record refures that claim … After all , he urged Warren to run for President in 2015 ….He was willing to sacrifice his own presidential ambitions in favor of a woman … Yet we are supposed to believe he told Warren in 2018 not to run for President in 2018 , because a woman could never get elected President …. That doesn't pass the smell test ...BTW , while running for re-election in 2018, Warren promised voters she would NOT run for President in 2020 ….She transferred 10 million dollars from that campaign to her Presidential Campaign....Big donor Money she now finds morally objectionable

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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. I think it's easy to believe that after HRC's loss Sanders decided there was too great a risk
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:00 AM
Jan 2020

in nominating a woman in 2020.

And it's easy to believe that he is too stubborn now to admit it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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oasis

(49,389 posts)
16. E.W. to Bernie "I think you called me a liar on national T.V.". She
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:13 AM
Jan 2020

repeats her charge then Bernie turns away.

CNN has the audio.

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