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Exclusive: Warren accused Sanders in tense post-debate exchange of calling her a 'liar' (Original Post) W_HAMILTON Jan 2020 OP
Booom! Cha Jan 2020 #1
Yup...pretty clear who the liar is....You don't confront someone helpisontheway Jan 2020 #2
Yep. My thoughts exactly. -nt Amimnoch Jan 2020 #5
Or maybe he knew the mics were hot and wanted to talk about it privately? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #13
Yeah, it's totally a "media created" feud. bearsfootball516 Jan 2020 #3
Yeah, the media didn't "create" that conversation. Cha Jan 2020 #4
They record everything all the time. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #15
The THIRD thread on the "feud" from a Biden supporter Bradshaw3 Jan 2020 #6
I was a Warren supporter for most of this primary and have actually donated the most $$ to her. W_HAMILTON Jan 2020 #8
Sanders is prone to turning off allies. That's it exactly. yardwork Jan 2020 #14
A pitiful display by two presidential candidates. Jeeez. Hoyt Jan 2020 #7
I heard Bernie trying NOT to engage. PassingFair Jan 2020 #10
Shaking his finger in her face is trying not to engage? yardwork Jan 2020 #16
Agreed. That's NOT the time to do that. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #17
Well one of them was pitiful BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #20
As another DUer pointed out wisely in another thread JudyM Jan 2020 #9
Makes me think that Warren is diplomatic. yardwork Jan 2020 #18
Yardwork JudyM Jan 2020 #19
lol BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #21
I see a different dynamic. yardwork Jan 2020 #22
Good on Elizabeth! Cha Jan 2020 #11
I can't stop watching this. R B Garr Jan 2020 #12
She knew the mic was still hot and tried to get something juicy for CNN melman Jan 2020 #23
 

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
2. Yup...pretty clear who the liar is....You don't confront someone
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:33 PM
Jan 2020

like that if you are lying about a conversation. The true liar wants to talk about it later.

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Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
5. Yep. My thoughts exactly. -nt
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:39 PM
Jan 2020
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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
13. Or maybe he knew the mics were hot and wanted to talk about it privately?
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:50 AM
Jan 2020

'Cause they were hot.

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bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
3. Yeah, it's totally a "media created" feud.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:34 PM
Jan 2020

It’s clear that there’s no love lost between Warren and Sanders, regardless of what the media reports.

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Cha

(297,322 posts)
4. Yeah, the media didn't "create" that conversation.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:37 PM
Jan 2020

it was reported "cnn had turned off the audio by then".. wonder who got it?

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
15. They record everything all the time.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:51 AM
Jan 2020

They had "turned off the audio" feed live. Anyone should know that if you have a microphone on you, it's hot.

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Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
6. The THIRD thread on the "feud" from a Biden supporter
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:44 PM
Jan 2020

And I'm only about 12 threads in on the first page. Perhaps because it is being touted as helping Biden?

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W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
8. I was a Warren supporter for most of this primary and have actually donated the most $$ to her.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:19 PM
Jan 2020

And I actually donated to her again last night as a show of support for her calling out Sanders on his lies.

Just because one supports a certain candidate does not meant that they hate the others. My current choice for supporting Biden is actually because I do not like Sanders and do not want him to win the nomination. This "feud" is just yet another reason I do not like this man. And, having said that, this is coming from someone that voted for him in 2016. We are all seeing on a national stage how he is prone to turn off even allies.

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yardwork

(61,650 posts)
14. Sanders is prone to turning off allies. That's it exactly.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:51 AM
Jan 2020

Watching the post-debate encounter between Warren and Sanders, I see a big contrast in how the two people handled this.

Warren was calm but firm. Bernie erupted in anger at her, shook his finger in her face, then abruptly stalked off. Apparently he was also rude to Tom Steyer, who just tried to say hello.

We've witnessed the same behavior from Sanders in the past. He has anger management issues. It's his way or the highway. This is why his record in the Senate is so poor. He doesn't make alliances to get things done. He's all talk.

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. A pitiful display by two presidential candidates. Jeeez.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:47 PM
Jan 2020
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PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
10. I heard Bernie trying NOT to engage.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 01:26 AM
Jan 2020

I think her going after him on the stage like that was cringe worthy.

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yardwork

(61,650 posts)
16. Shaking his finger in her face is trying not to engage?
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:52 AM
Jan 2020
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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
17. Agreed. That's NOT the time to do that.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jan 2020

He didn't tell her to shut up, but that they should talk about it later. Like, you know, when the mics aren't hot.

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BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
20. Well one of them was pitiful
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jan 2020

This is not a moment for bothsiderisms.

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JudyM

(29,251 posts)
9. As another DUer pointed out wisely in another thread
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:36 PM
Jan 2020

... how curious it is that her statement was not “you lied on national tv”... makes you think 🤔

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yardwork

(61,650 posts)
18. Makes me think that Warren is diplomatic.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jan 2020
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JudyM

(29,251 posts)
19. Yardwork
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:37 AM
Jan 2020

Are you following me around?!

She darted right over to him and accused him, in front of the whole audience... nothing about that looked diplomatic to me. Bernie’s spontaneous reaction was to openly greet her, he didn’t look like someone who just lied about her, not at all.

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yardwork

(61,650 posts)
22. I see a different dynamic.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jan 2020

I saw Warren calmly walk up to Bernie and speak to him in a low voice, keeping her body still. The debate was over and I doubt any of them realized that they were still on audio.

I disagree that "she darted right up to him." That sounds so sexist to me, as if she were hysterical (another sexist term used to keep women in their place).

And no, I'm not following you around.

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Cha

(297,322 posts)
11. Good on Elizabeth!
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 01:29 AM
Jan 2020
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R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
12. I can't stop watching this.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:41 AM
Jan 2020

Absolute exposure.

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melman

(7,681 posts)
23. She knew the mic was still hot and tried to get something juicy for CNN
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jan 2020

He's too smart to fall for it. Good for him

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