Amy Klobuchar lost the Debate by not winning...

[brooklynite]

She's an appealing candidate on paper, but she hasn't resonated with Primary voters and hasn't cracked double digits in polls for any of the early States. She's also right on the bubble for future Debate fields. She needed a breakout moment that would garner some additional voter attention and give her some forward momentum for the final three weeks. She didn't have one.

[snowybirdie]

1. These debates

Have become useless and redundant. Stupid questions over and over with practiced stilted answers. No candidate looks good, just flat and practiced. How about a weekly show featuring their speeches and townhalls from the week? Let's see how they think on the fly and talk about current events. Something has to be better than what we've seen this election cycle.

[brooklynite]

2. We have that: it's called C-Span.

Won't generate the same audience.

[Demsrule86]

16. If we rely on the media this time,we are going to lose ...the normalization of Trump continues.

And this is a man who likely wanted an American citizen murdered ...an ambassador. He was involved in a murder plot. He will kill in order to win in 2020...sobering thought.

[Bettie]

4. They have become media events, not debates

all in a quest for that one phrase that will be repeated over and over.

[Guilded Lilly]

27. Yup. The media is the message. Not much genuine substance, loads of "ratings" fodder.

[Demsrule86]

9. I agree...the debates were boring. I didn't learn anything new about any candidate.

I would say the Warren Sanders thing was the one thing to look at and I missed the handshake thing completely...nice poster put it on a thread.

[7wo7rees]

26. These spectacles are not a debate.. they are 2 hours of "elevator pitches"

In sales you have to have a 30 second speech to give to promote what you provide......

I wish we could have a real debate.

[BeyondGeography]

3. Probably

The DMR is slagging her for constantly talking over her time. It’s tough out there.

[madaboutharry]

8. Mr. madaboutharry, who supports Amy Klobuchar,

was complaining about her talking over her time and was concerned that she ended up annoying people.

It is a fair criticism.

[Zorro]

13. I agree with mr. madaboutharry

It was obnoxious how Klobuchar kept going on and on and on after being told her time had expired. She didn't win any points with that strategy.

[Dem4Life1102]

22. I agree too

It was very annoying by the end. It showed either that she didn’t prepare well and an arrogant disregard for the rules. Either way not good.

[Demsrule86]

10. And yet at one of the debates Biden was criticized for not talking until they called him on it...you

can't really shine in these sort of debates...too many.

[yellerpup]

5. It occurred to me this morning

that if she dropped out of the Presidential race now and became one of the managers for the impeachment trial (she is a sharp prosecutor) she could run again and win.

On Edit: I just realized this is not possible because she will be a juror.

[Demsrule86]

11. It would be great though if she could.

[Evergreen Emerald]

6. Backwards and in high heels

If women are not winning the debate, they are losing it. Conversely, as long as the old white men remain standing, they are winning.

[MontanaFarmer]

7. Yeah, it really was a status quo debate for everyone.

Amy's status isn't high enough for that to be a good thing. Really interested to see how this all goes. I suspect her caucus-goers will migrate to Joe at sites where she doesn't meet the 15% threshold. I suspect if Biden gets 5% of the 7-8% Amy is likely to get, he may win the state.

[Demsrule86]

12. She would make a great VP...I hope Biden considers her. I really like Amy.

[MontanaFarmer]

14. The list so far, for Joe, in my mind:

Harris
Klobuchar
Abrams
Perhaps Catherine cortez-masto?
Booker

[Sloumeau]

18. I think it would be electoral suicide for Joe not to go with a woman.

So, even though Booker has many good qualities, I think he is pretty much out.

Also, after 2016, Joe would want to make sure he got the African American vote to turn out. To me, that pushed people like Senator Harris, Stacy Abrams, and Val Demmings to the front of the list. I would estimate it is a 95% chance that Joe would pick a woman for his VP, and about 70% chance that she is also a woman of color. If not a Black Woman, than a Hispanic Woman. So, I think I would make my list this way:

1. Prominent Black women of color: ie Harris, Abrams, Demings
2. Prominent Latina women of color: ie Cortez-Masto
3. Prominent White Women: ie Klobuchar, Warren.

For Joe Biden not to pick a woman for his VP slot would be to basically hand the Presidency to Donald Trump. I don't even want to imagine how angry the women of America would be if that happened. In addition, with that many unhappy women in America, I think many men in America would be quite disappointed themselves. A bad time would be had by all.

[Demsrule86]

23. All good choices.

[MineralMan]

15. At this stage, the number of viable candidates is going down, not up.

Amy Klobuchar was never going to be the nominee. She simply doesn't have the widespread recognition any nominee would need. Not in a race with two dozen candidates at its beginning.

Iowa will be the end of the road for Amy Klobuchar. She will get no delegates from the caucuses and will have no reason to stay in the race. Watch for her announcement on February 4 or 5.

She's a great Senator for my state. She will continue to be that, as long as she chooses to be.

[bloom]

17. I see her as a stronger candidate than Pete.

With the current lineup - I see Amy as second to Warren.

Biden and Sanders both seem older that ideal - esp. Biden.

Pete is too green.

[Demsrule86]

24. Sanders is older than Biden...and it was pretty much everyone's opinion that Biden

is ahead and won the debate...Wapo has a story in fact. There is a post on this forum.

[Sloumeau]

19. I think if Joe Biden were not running...

a lot of us Biden fans would be backing Klobuchar today.

I have always liked her, and I believe that, like Harris, she would make an awesome President. No matter what happens, it is almost certain that this will be Joe's last run if he does not win the nomination. Klobuchar is young enough to run again and has run a solid campaign. No matter what happens, I believe that we will see her again. I think she is awesome.

[Act_of_Reparation]

20. And she is arguably the most impressive of the moderate candidates.

And yet she trails behind Biden and Buttigieg. Implicit sexism is probably a discussion worth having one of these days.

[The Valley Below]

21. Gee...I thought Klobuchar pretty much did win the debate.

She had a great night. As did Buttigieg.

Kloubuchar looks like the best VP pick to me.

Not because she's a woman but because:

1) I think she'd help secure wins in MN, MI, WI, & PA. Plus AZ, FL, and NC. And extend Democratic coat-tails in key Senate and House races.

2) After a win, we will need a VP who can help get legislation moved through Congress. Who has a better record in this regard than Klobuchar?

3) Biden needs a true-partner, one he can trust on both a personal level and a person he can trust with big jobs. Someone to fill the role he had as VP with President Obama.

To my mind these are the 3 critical factors in a VP pick for Joe Biden. No one else comes close on these fronts in my estimation.

[judeling]

25. No She won the Debate just not the night

When you look at how everybody did in relation to each others and their chosen lanes she did more to advance her chances then anyone else.

[demosincebirth]

28. I like her.