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Related: About this forumWarren vows to cancel college debt without awaiting Congress
By WILL WEISSERT
WASHINGTON (AP) Presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren says shed order her secretary of education to cancel up to $50,000 in college debt for about 95% of student borrowers on her first day in office, effectively erasing outstanding loans for about 42 million Americans.
The Democratic senator from Massachusetts vowed in a proposal released Tuesday to act immediately and not wait for Congress because the secretary of education already has broad authority to compromise on and modify student loans.
Warren had already promised in previous plans to wipe out student loans for 42 million Americans while offering free tuition at public universities. Shes proposed a wealth tax on fortunes worth $50 million or more to pay for doing so, saying that will raise $2.75 trillion over 10 years.
But those proposals would require congressional approval. Hours before a presidential debate in Iowa, which holds its lead-off caucuses on Feb. 3, Warren said shed move unilaterally to cancel debt first, then work with Capitol Hill to ensure programs to pay for it become law.
FULL story: https://apnews.com/99ea6f3c4b52bbf8f43327d61be5ce8e
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., speaks during a campaign event, Sunday, Jan. 12, 2020, in Marshalltown, Iowa. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Sanders is promising to cancel all debt for everyone, including the highest income earners. The total cost of that is $1.5 trillion.
It is a sensible compromise.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)to pay for it.
It makes her look reckless and desperate.
We're supposed to have a system of checks and balances.
Not an authoritarian system, even a benign one.
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Thekaspervote
(32,794 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Everything the next Administration does will be headed to SCOTUS - certainly the wealth tax, which is how this proposal is to be funded.
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highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)And he's found legal experts to back him up.
We do NOT want to emulate him in this way. Very bad path to take. A stupid path to take.
I'd rather see a Democratic nominee willing to build a consensus and respect our system of government, than see war between polarized parties fighting for authoritarian executive power that will bypass Congress.
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crazytown
(7,277 posts)is comparable to trumps' claims before the courts, without having seen the policy detail.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)makes Democrats look bad.
It's especially stupid when we need to win swing states.
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crazytown
(7,277 posts)and show up in head to heads against trump. We will see.
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Gothmog
(145,567 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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janterry
(4,429 posts)n/t
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ritapria
(1,812 posts)without the approval of Congress ? .I guess a Conservative Majority Supreme Court would make such a determination ..
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crazytown
(7,277 posts)If it is defensible, I would hope the Sanders campaign would take it up to facilitate as much of their corresponding proposals as possible.
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Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)... currently trying to remove this power from the Sec Ed. for this very reason. So yeah its currently doable and I support it.
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LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Bring it on!
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turbinetree
(24,720 posts)and tuition's....................and who backed it .....................
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crazytown
(7,277 posts)we might be hearing about that in the debate, given Warren's Bankruptcy Act overhaul, and all.
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turbinetree
(24,720 posts)and it does matter.........................
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crazytown
(7,277 posts)are inextricably linked. Elizabeth has not tied all the treads together, but I suspect it won't be long.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
No questions about guns either.
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Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)part of the 2c wealth tax plan, which also, no doubt, would be also heading for SCOTUS
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Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)I never thought it was realistic.
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Cuthbert Allgood
(4,965 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,485 posts)Which means, as it does with all of our candidates, that we need to ensure we keep the House and regain the Senate.
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snowybirdie
(5,239 posts)While I applaud her efforts and believe some college should be available to all, Do we really want to continue relying on Executive Orders to legislate? Let's make them play nice together and force compromise, as our Republic was designed to function.
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John Fante
(3,479 posts)the criminal EOs of Donald Trump. Besides, executive orders didn't begin with him. Obama issued his fair share, for example.
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BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)could happen.
But please don't forget that President Obama had to issue 276 EOs exactly because no one WOULD play together and compromise.
The GOP won't change its colors overnight and especially NOT if ANY Dem is in the WH.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
snowybirdie
(5,239 posts)Used EOs. Didn't like it then either, but totally understood why. Let's work towards an ideal rather than falling back on both sides do it! Legislation could limit the number and scope of EOs if we push our newly elected Democratic Congress and Democratic President to do it. We can't keep changing policies and laws depending on what party comes into power. We lose credibility in the world. We are weakened.
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BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)that could help vulnerable people right out of the starting gate? That's what Warren's talking about.
An EO can always be challenged. And if we DO have majorities in both houses of Congress, it can also be enacted into law, which is again, the best outcome of all.
If you want to see the "same-old-same-old" keep on happening, you won't be disappointed. We'll be back to the same frustrations over and over again. Today's GOPers will NOT change their stripes quickly, if at all, no matter how much we might wish for or fantasize about that happening.
But if you want to see change happen, the boat has to be rocked. Gently, but rocked. Warren would give a real push.
I for one am tired of the same-old-same-old.
I am now 76 and it's always "deja-vu-all-over-again." People only realize what they should have voted for afterwards: in 1968; in 1972; in 1980; in 1984; in 1988; in 2000; in 2004; and in 2016.
1968 was the first Presidential election when I was eligible to vote because my birthday was in December in 1964 and the voting age at the time was 21. I voted for the Dem candidate in every election then and since. I intend to vote for the Dem candidate in 2020.
But IMO, the BEST option is Warren.
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still_one
(92,409 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)accomplished via Executive Orders.
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_education/publications/teaching-legal-docs/what-is-an-executive-order-/
Elizabeth is a lawyer who understands the law. Unlike some with law degrees who are in Congress, she has actually practiced law as well as being a highly regarded academic and consultant.
She would not have asserted that she could do this without having verified that it would be within her power.
So no, it isn't "pandering with promises that can't be met."
Would any such EO be challenged? Undoubtedly. Would it be upheld? Possibly.
During his Presidency, President Obama issued 276 EOs. For their disposition, please see this link: https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/obama.html
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Politicub
(12,165 posts)and people who have been working to pay off their loans for years.
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northoftheborder
(7,574 posts)Why is that any better than Trump's dictatorship?
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BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)acquire powers that he did not have when he issued 276 Executive Orders during his Presidency?
Elizabeth is a lawyer. She knows what she's talking about - unlike too many instant legal experts in this tread.
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The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Another blunder.
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John Fante
(3,479 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)But I'm actually not.
I'd like to see the details of her proposal, but I have no doubt that she understands the law here clearly and I would never, for even a second, compare this action to anything Trump has done. And it honestly saddens me to see those kinds of statements here. I guess people are getting desperate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ecstatic
(32,732 posts)the minimum payment, I'll probably be done paying off my loans by January 2021. But congratulations to those who might benefit from this!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden