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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:55 PM Jan 2020

CNN's Joe Lockhart Argues Media Isn't Taking Bernie Sanders Seriously: 'Hard Floor of Supporters'

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By Connor Mannion Jan 11th, 2020, 7:01 pm

CNN commentator Joe Lockhart told S.E. Cupp on her show that he doesn’t think the media is seriously considering how Sen. Bernie Sanders could run away with the nomination.

“There’s real shades of 2016,” Lockhart said. “I’m gonna get flamed on Twitter tonight … but the media early on did not take Trump seriously. So they didn’t vet him and say, does your plan add up? And you know what about your plan on Iran and getting out?”

“Up until now, the media has not taken Bernie Sanders that seriously,” he continued.

“He would say the same thing,” Cupp interjected.

“And he’s been right,” Lockhart agreed.

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CNN's Joe Lockhart Argues Media Isn't Taking Bernie Sanders Seriously: 'Hard Floor of Supporters' (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 OP
as a Biden supporter evertonfc Jan 2020 #1
I'm pretty sure there's a term for that kind of devotion. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #40
If only he could have gotten them to work as hard to stop Trump in 2016 MH1 Jan 2020 #43
Sounds like Joe Lockhart is calling for Sanders to be vetted by the media... The Valley Below Jan 2020 #2
Definitely sounds like it Hav Jan 2020 #21
Bernie will be taken VERY seriously in November when he clobbers Dolt45 & becomes the 46th POTUS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #3
It's no good! They're on to us! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #8
OMG!! NOOOOOO, NOT THAT... ANYTHING BUT THAT!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #39
Are you aware DownriverDem Jan 2020 #14
Trump had all kind of... cannabis_flower Jan 2020 #18
BAM!!!!!!!! JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #24
No matter the nominee, the GOP is ready with their attacks. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #20
Please pass me some of what you're smoking. MH1 Jan 2020 #44
There Is No One Who Has Worked Harder For Working Slobs Like Me Their Whole Life Than Benie DanieRains Jan 2020 #4
Okay, so just what has he done for you? George II Jan 2020 #6
Pointed Out The Problem My Friend DanieRains Jan 2020 #9
A sure sign of fear is when the person tries to shame you, instead of sticking to the subject... JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #19
Asking what Sanders has done for someone is "shaming" them? The Valley Below Jan 2020 #36
YES, EXCELLENT POINT!! THE FEAR THOUGH IS UNDERSTANDABLE GIVEN BERNIE'S LATEST SURGE IN THE POLLS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #45
another poor bernie is being blacked out by the media link lol nt msongs Jan 2020 #5
He's been on four or five shows in the last few days. Quite a blackout, eh? George II Jan 2020 #7
"in the last few days" bluewater Jan 2020 #12
I know he was on three just yesterday,one or two more mid-week. George II Jan 2020 #13
I just saw him on The Late Show, owned by the corporate media conglomerate that betsuni Jan 2020 #37
I initally backed Beto largely because I thought we need younger face of the Party Va Lefty Jan 2020 #10
me too and to be honest evertonfc Jan 2020 #11
I like Bernie and would have voted for him in 2016 Desert grandma Jan 2020 #22
They have not taken Bernie seriously ritapria Jan 2020 #15
Wtf are you talking about? Hav Jan 2020 #16
You'll never get an answer BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #41
Good point that no one has found a bit of dirt about... JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #17
bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #23
HAhahahahhahahahahhahahahaha! JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #25
I laughed because Bernie is done NYMinute Jan 2020 #26
I always liked the old saying that; "He who laughs last,... JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #28
He is finished man NYMinute Jan 2020 #30
It's not over until... JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #32
bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #34
Back to where you started! ntn JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #35
No amount of koolaid will help NYMinute Jan 2020 #38
When the news media does begin to notice Bernie and vetting him fully, they will find that Bernie... JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #27
NY Daily News alread vetted NYMinute Jan 2020 #29
I trust the voters to make the right vetting calls at our convention when we... JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #31
He dismally flunked the NY Daily News vetting interview NYMinute Jan 2020 #33
And it'll take devotees/zealots if the press will cover him properly. Hortensis Jan 2020 #42
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
1. as a Biden supporter
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:01 PM
Jan 2020

I'll say this. Bernie has a base that will walk over hot coals for him. He will energize the youth. His base is as loyal as Trumps. He better be taken seriously. I like Bernie and will support him.if he is nominee but I feel an undercurrent of momentum and Trump like underestimate with him.

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BannonsLiver

(16,457 posts)
40. I'm pretty sure there's a term for that kind of devotion.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:19 AM
Jan 2020
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MH1

(17,600 posts)
43. If only he could have gotten them to work as hard to stop Trump in 2016
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jan 2020

In my perception, he either did not try, or showed failure of leadership. We should not be going through what we are today, if only he could have mobilized that "base" he has. I talked to too many IRL that refused to vote for Hillary (in an important EC swing state). Had he given the word in a way they believed, they would have been out canvassing for her.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
2. Sounds like Joe Lockhart is calling for Sanders to be vetted by the media...
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:02 PM
Jan 2020

and asking that they not repeat 2016 where according to him the media "did not take Trump seriously."

Sounds good to me.

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
21. Definitely sounds like it
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:50 PM
Jan 2020

For example, it feels the expectations for Warren to defend the feasibility of her healthcare plan were considerably higher.
So let's not repeat the mistake that was done with Trump again by applying a way higher standard to one side while letting everything else from the other pass because the prospect of that side participating in the election is just a joke anyways. The same mistake gave Trump the GOP nomination.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
3. Bernie will be taken VERY seriously in November when he clobbers Dolt45 & becomes the 46th POTUS!!
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Undecided
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,343 posts)
8. It's no good! They're on to us!
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:25 PM
Jan 2020

Before you know it they will find out about the honeymoon in you know where!

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
39. OMG!! NOOOOOO, NOT THAT... ANYTHING BUT THAT!!!
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 02:25 AM
Jan 2020



Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
14. Are you aware
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:36 PM
Jan 2020

that if Bernie were to get the nomination. the political attack guns are loaded and ready to go? He has not been really vetted.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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cannabis_flower

(3,765 posts)
18. Trump had all kind of...
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:48 PM
Jan 2020

nasty stuff come out about him before he was elected and he still won because he had a large base. It could work the same way with Bernie.

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
24. BAM!!!!!!!!
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:05 PM
Jan 2020

Great point!!!!!!

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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
20. No matter the nominee, the GOP is ready with their attacks.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:50 PM
Jan 2020

And the GOP will have the assistance of Russian trolls, and a US media that places profit above all else, and billions in dark money.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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MH1

(17,600 posts)
44. Please pass me some of what you're smoking.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jan 2020

BS won't be the nominee, and if he were, it is unlikely he would beat Trump, after all the ads of him announcing that he is a socialist.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
4. There Is No One Who Has Worked Harder For Working Slobs Like Me Their Whole Life Than Benie
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:13 PM
Jan 2020

He is the only one that just comes out and says the 1% control everything.

Go Bernie.

I am not complaining about the other candidates who I like all of.

Bernie just points out the world's number on problem when the others skip around it.

Oligarchs run the country like their own cash machine. Having legislation written to further enrich the, and the oligarch owned media convincing all of us to not complain while we donate to their kids trust funds.

Other candidates have their strong points but this is the world's number one problem. One percent of the population has 90% of the power and 50% of the wealth.

The rest of us are supposed to fight over crumbs.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Okay, so just what has he done for you?
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:19 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
9. Pointed Out The Problem My Friend
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:25 PM
Jan 2020

I really like Joe by the way.

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
19. A sure sign of fear is when the person tries to shame you, instead of sticking to the subject...
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:49 PM
Jan 2020

...thanks for sticking to the subject DanieRains!

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
36. Asking what Sanders has done for someone is "shaming" them?
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:41 PM
Jan 2020

On what universe?

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
45. YES, EXCELLENT POINT!! THE FEAR THOUGH IS UNDERSTANDABLE GIVEN BERNIE'S LATEST SURGE IN THE POLLS!!
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

msongs

(67,442 posts)
5. another poor bernie is being blacked out by the media link lol nt
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:15 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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George II

(67,782 posts)
7. He's been on four or five shows in the last few days. Quite a blackout, eh?
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:20 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
12. "in the last few days"
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:31 PM
Jan 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
13. I know he was on three just yesterday,one or two more mid-week.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:36 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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betsuni

(25,624 posts)
37. I just saw him on The Late Show, owned by the corporate media conglomerate that
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:55 PM
Jan 2020

is supposedly doing blackouts. But I can't turn around without seeing Bernie! The corporate media conglomeration, billionaire and donor classes, corporations and industries, and the Democratic Establishment that will stop at nothing to thwart Bernie are really slacking off, man. Put some elbow grease into it.

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Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
10. I initally backed Beto largely because I thought we need younger face of the Party
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:28 PM
Jan 2020

But I will support whoever the nominee is 100%! We have to defeat trump or we lose our Country.

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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
11. me too and to be honest
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:30 PM
Jan 2020

when we run candidates under 55- we win. Go back to Carter.

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Desert grandma

(804 posts)
22. I like Bernie and would have voted for him in 2016
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:53 PM
Jan 2020

if he would have been the nominee. By the time our state votes, (June) things had been pretty well decided. I like him and his ideas, but I do not think he has any chance of winning in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. If he somehow becomes the nominee, I will certainly vote for him, but I don't think he will win the general election. Yes, there are a lot of younger voters that support him, but I wonder how many will actually vote. The most reliable voters are older Americans. The GOP will spread fear among the independents, moderate Democrats, and never Trumpers with their "Socialist" label. Other candidates would fare much better among this group in my opinion. If by some chance Bernie becomes the nominee, I will vote for him but I fear we will be in for 4 more years of the Orange Madman in the White House.
Just an opinion from one of those older Americans.

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
15. They have not taken Bernie seriously
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:41 PM
Jan 2020

because they are seriously DUMB ….All of Joe's insider friends think Bernie is crude, uncouth - a vulgarian ... Joe was a senior advisor for the John Kerry campaign ...That worked out swell …. Bernie has been vetted ….Remember , he ran for President in 2016 ...The media looked and looked and looked for dirt on Bernard .. Found nothing .. What is Joe afraid of ? ..Is he afraid the peasants are going to get the same quality of healthcare he gets ? … Is he afraid the children of the peasants are going to be able to send their kids to college ?.... Imagine the Nightmare

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
16. Wtf are you talking about?
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:42 PM
Jan 2020

I ask because you are usually very reasonable.

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BannonsLiver

(16,457 posts)
41. You'll never get an answer
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:21 AM
Jan 2020

That person has not even once ever replied to another poster here. They offer ludicrously pro Bernie hot takes completely unsupported by facts and move on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
17. Good point that no one has found a bit of dirt about...
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:47 PM
Jan 2020

...Bernie!

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
23. bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nt
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:03 PM
Jan 2020
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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
25. HAhahahahhahahahahhahahahaha!
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:06 PM
Jan 2020

Back at ya!

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
26. I laughed because Bernie is done
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:08 PM
Jan 2020

caput.

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
28. I always liked the old saying that; "He who laughs last,...
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:12 PM
Jan 2020

...laughs best" for Bernie!

Ok, I added to the saying a bit!

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
30. He is finished man
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:14 PM
Jan 2020

He has no centrist support, he has no African-American support. His goose will be cooked in the South and the mid-West. There are fewer caucuses this time around for activists to bully. It is over.

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
32. It's not over until...
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:19 PM
Jan 2020

...Joe concedes to Bernie!

No need to shame anyone, anytime because Bernie is winning!

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
34. bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nt
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jan 2020
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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
35. Back to where you started! ntn
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:33 PM
Jan 2020
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
38. No amount of koolaid will help
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:33 AM
Jan 2020

It is funny as hell

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
27. When the news media does begin to notice Bernie and vetting him fully, they will find that Bernie...
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:10 PM
Jan 2020

...really knows his stuff!

Just another reason why Bernie will be our 46th!

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
31. I trust the voters to make the right vetting calls at our convention when we...
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:16 PM
Jan 2020

...nominate Bernie!

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
33. He dismally flunked the NY Daily News vetting interview
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jan 2020

He has been treated with kid gloves by everyone else. trump will go for the jugular and we'll have something worse than McGovern on our hands -- plus we'll lose the house and senate with Bernie's negative coattails.

there just aren't enough devotees to pull off a nationwide win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
42. And it'll take devotees/zealots if the press will cover him properly.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 02:52 PM
Jan 2020

I remember how flabbergasting that interview was -- to the editorial board, not just me. After over 25 years in congress and running for president on strong declarations of what he'd do, he had very little idea how government could be used to implement his dreams. His answer was that he'd make the promises now and later get experts who would know how.



He's no Trump; Trump far surpasses him in I believe every one of their various resemblances. But if there were no Trump, Sanders' ignorance would have been the most shocking for the circumstances I'd ever run into. Apparently he had limited interest in how the different branches of government work, plus all his passions had always been no more than dreams he didn't expect to need to know anything about? Including the most recent one of how to destroy the Obama administration's great achievement and use his claimed need to do that to run for president on. He's still figuring he'll hire experts to pull off the promised replacement.

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