Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThis is what David Sirota is spreading on twitter:
He's repeating misleading truncated quotes of Joe Biden AND circulating a graphic calling Biden "blue trump".
Link to tweet
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,675 posts)Can't Sanders rein him in? If he can't control his attack dog, he should fire him.
Sirota campaigns like a damn republican.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Motley Fool:
"Democratic presidential front-runner Joe Biden, who you'd expect to fight for core Democratic principles in resolving Social Security's imminent cash crunch, including raising or eliminating the earnings cap, has called for Social Security cuts on three separate occasions over the past 12 years."
https://www.fool.com/retirement/2019/05/17/joe-biden-has-called-for-social-security-cuts-3-ti.aspx
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
myohmy2
(3,186 posts)...the Bernie-Bashers would reflect more on Joe's current and past positions making this possible...
...what do they think trump's going to do in the general?
...this is child's play...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,840 posts)ds is a BIG Reason we have the monster in the WH.
Here's some tweets SNEAKY sirotaa Deleted but they live forever.
"Here are links to the the International Business Times stories he was tweeting out and wanted voters to revisit the night before the 2016 election. "
https://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-economic-team-planned-secret-meeting-wall-street-mogul-pushing?utm_content=buffer2cf20&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
https://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/emails-show-clinton-foundation-donor-reached-out-hillary-clinton-arms-export-boost?utm_content=buffereb3c4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
https://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-said-outsourcing-benefited-america-after-she-criticized-bush?utm_content=buffer8b4c6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
https://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/state-department-blocks-release-hillary-clinton-era-tpp-emails-until-after?utm_content=buffera658a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
https://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-spotlighting-crisis-flint-michigan-voted-against-measure-prevent?utm_content=bufferc4ee4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
https://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-paid-speeches-wall-street-promoted-commission-pushed-social?utm_content=buffer0cb0f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Link to tweet
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=417556
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)"Sirota campaigns like a damn republican."
Yup. Sanders does. Those tactics work for those he's drawn so far and, because he can't get enough Democrats, for those he still needs to: Trump's populist fallaways. Studies show Republican leaders long ago degraded their main ideology to essentially "stop liberalism" and "stop the Democrats," and the teapartier/trumpsters themselves rebelled by adding "and keep your hands off my Social Security." Populism.
This is the second election in which Sanders is marketing himself to populists on both sides: to resentful LW populists and aspiring socialists as an alternative to the mainstream Democratic Party and to RW populists as an alternative to Trump and the Democratic Party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,675 posts)There was a time when such tactics would have been below Bernie, but his presidential run in 2016 changed him dramatically and I barely recognize the man anymore. If Bernie is not giving the orders, which is possible, he is allowing his surrogates to do or say whatever they want. If he is not in control of his campaign, how will he be in control of his administration. It conjures up an image of a chaotic, rudderless White House with no real direction.
I am afraid that a lofty goal of making the world a better place may have been replaced with a goal of winning at any cost. Running for president can be a real test of one's character and resilience.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)did he just not need to run such ruthless, dishonest campaigns in Vermont to get reelected to congress for nearly 30 years? Did the person or the situation change?
I believe his history actually revealed the answer long ago that many just didn't suspect of the very undistinguished I-Sanders face in group photos or the newly interesting one many first noticed in the first debate. He's always believed in the righteousness of and critical need for his lofty goals.
With the WH unexpectedly seeming attainable, my notion is that in 2015-2016 he added the belief in a critical need to place himself there, and with that a conviction that winning at all costs is justified. His history and writings reveal that his belief in himself has always been as strong as his contempt for those who don't share it.
As you say, running's a test of one's character, and so would be winning great power. I believe that any candidate who relies so extremely heavily on deceiving voters about what socialism and Democrats are and also on avoiding press scrutiny -- most seek as much as possible -- could have more previously unsuspected reveals with that power.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,921 posts)You can't tell me Sanders is blissfully unaware of what Sirota has been doing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,840 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)Haven't seen him around in a while. Where's he been?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,921 posts)If it had been a one-off or if Sirota was just some low-level volunteer working unsupervised out of his mom's basement I'd be inclined to cut Bernie a little slack, but that's not what's going on. This is exactly the kind of thing Sirota does and has been doing all along. If Bernie doesn't either curb him or fire him we'll know exactly how Bernie feels about this sort of campaigning.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Motley Fool:
"Democratic presidential front-runner Joe Biden, who you'd expect to fight for core Democratic principles in resolving Social Security's imminent cash crunch, including raising or eliminating the earnings cap, has called for Social Security cuts on three separate occasions over the past 12 years."
https://www.fool.com/retirement/2019/05/17/joe-biden-has-called-for-social-security-cuts-3-ti.aspx
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....and yes, Sanders CANNOT be oblivious to this. Sirota's reputation preceded him, and he still got hired into a top staff position.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Sanders Anything less would indicate he is complicit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LisaM
(27,846 posts)He has a pattern of this and it goes back a way. His spokespeople (Tulsi Gabbard, Nina Turner) are likewise troubling.
It's not that most of us here don't agree with the majority of what his positions are. We do, absolutely. But if this is any indication as to whom he'd pick for Cabinet level positions, it says to me that he would not make a good Chief Executive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Policy wise, I agree a lot with what Sanders says, but I seriously have issues with his judgment, which reflects to me what kind of president he would be. Just imagine this clown Sirota having power in a Democratic White House.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,536 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,179 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr.Bill
(24,338 posts)and it reads "The Bucks Stop Here".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,339 posts)Bernie Sanders should fire him for his lies about another Democratic candidate. Will he?
And then, there's Senator Sanders' Press Secretary. She's deleting tweets she made, but without any comment regarding them. She hopes they go away. Where is Senator Sanders on this?
Acceptance is support when it comes to high-level staff of a campaign. If they do wrong, and it is not addressed, that says something about the candidate, it seems to me.
Senator Sanders? What do you say? I'll wait here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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TwilightZone
(25,505 posts)He's Bernie Sanders' senior advisor and speechwriter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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dem4decades
(11,309 posts)And his supporters should tell him if he continues the attack on Democrats they will no longer back him
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr.Bill
(24,338 posts)and ask him what action he plans to takt to correct this?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Renew Deal
(81,885 posts)They should be kept on the outside talking to themselves. We don't need to appease them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,339 posts)However, he will not do that. That tells me everything I need to know for this primary election season. Between Sirota and his Jill Stein-voting press secretary, Sanders is handicapping his campaign in a very serious way. That will not work out well for his primary campaign. If he hopes to become the nominee, he needs to clean house immediately and disavow the misleading tactics put forward by Sirota and others on his campaign.
However, he will not do that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,509 posts)They are now borrowing straight from the teabagger handbook, and alienating all but the most devoted adherents who didn't care for any pretense of objectivity or accuracy to begin with. Whether he tacitly consents to it or not, if he doesn't regain control, I can easily see his campaign going to hell in a handbasket. Unless his strategy is to attract the former teabaggers who eat this shit up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)He owns it all
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,509 posts)destructive it is for his campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)because judgment comes into play
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,509 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....and then had to fire them each within one day.
But Sirota has a history of this in campaigns before:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/22/sanders-speechwriter-racially-inflammatory-website-1232953
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)Look at who a person has around them. It tells you a lot. I agree that Sanders is well aware and has chosen this in his campaign. The upside? It is not one of our Dems. Our Dems don't do this. Sanders had people stealing stuff from HRC previously. This is not new behavior.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lexee
(377 posts)When this is so consistent with Sanders campaign and past campaigns.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,509 posts)slogan on his tour bus. So I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, knowing that in the long run it doesn't help him one bit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)If not prior to it being put out. seeing how he micromanages and knows what is going on with his team. He either fires the guy, apologizes and clears the record, on tv or he is the problem.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Either way, it is beyond his control or he is approving the strategy, Bernie is going to come out losing.
His statements is a recent interview says that he knows exactly what his staff is doing and has likely signed off on it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,840 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)He hired the people who say these things. Thats not unintentional.
Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
And there should be a price paid.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,536 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(16,887 posts)And that makes me sad, because I supported Bernie in the 2026 primary. I refuse to do so this time around because of this kind of crap.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(61,729 posts)In 2000, we heard a lot about how the two parties were exactly the same and the only moral vote was a vote for Nader. That got us W, the attacks on 9/11, and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. And Supreme Court decisions like Citizens United.
Of course we heard the same nonsense in 2016. From David Sirota. So this is not new or unexpected.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)between one candidate and Trump regarding campaign style, the scapegoating and the vilification of the media. Both are also supported by the Russian troll farms.
I'd say one person is considerably closer in style to Trump and it's not Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,424 posts)He is not helping Sanders' cause.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,840 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,759 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,840 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,759 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,424 posts)He seems to deliberately surround himself with such people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,840 posts)the only way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,245 posts)imagine who his advisers will be?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)No he's not. Anyone who knows how twitter works can see you've posted Imes' tweet which is a reply to Sirota.
That's why Imes' tweet shows bigger, there is a line going up to Sirota's and at the bottom it says " see Chris Imes' other tweets."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)One example would be one more than you've shown.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)There are three tweets posted in the OP.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Playing what? You asked if I'm "okay with the tweet"
There are three tweets here.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
But since you're doing screeshots let's see one of that alleged retweet.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....with his other 20,000 tweets that he deleted earlier this year.
Nice way for Sanders' speechwriter to act, eh?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)Okay.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....stop saying what I didn't say or think. Thank you!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)What you said was there was a retweet of this graphic. You have failed to prove this.
The reason you can't prove it is it never happened.
Done here.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...and then deleted it.
That's been his history for a long time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,840 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,840 posts)what he was up to.
Like President Obama said when Steve Kroft or somebody asked President Obama why he didn't talk about being "Black". "I think they noticed."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)The problem is at the top.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,840 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,339 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,921 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,339 posts)Sings the cat, "Sha daba dooba daba..."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
roody
(10,849 posts)Would you post it?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,880 posts)and that colors my view completely of how effective Sanders would be as a President if he can sit still for this
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,880 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,505 posts)that perhaps Sanders can't keep up with it all.
Another alternative, of course, is that scorched earth is the campaign strategy and all of Sirota's silliness is part of that and approved by the campaign. I find that more likely. It happens too frequently to be a series of accidents.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,813 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(16,887 posts)We are watching in real time a repeat of the types of divisive nonsense that blew up 2016.
The only individual this election should be about is the narcissistic asshole currently sitting in the Oval Office. When bullshit like the above is spread far and wide, make no mistake, it does have an influence on those who are less well informed. Equating Biden to Trump is simply nonsense.
While I may agree with Sanders on many issues, I'm not naive enough to think that his way is the only way or that those who don't share his EXACT beliefs are somehow enemies. If Bernie disagrees with the posts his subordinates are posting on Twitter, then he needs to come out and make a strong statement and put an end to this now. As an observer, it would be easy for me to say that he has brought into his campaign leadership a group of individuals who care more about electing Bernie than they do about actually getting democrats elected. At the end of this primary, that has the be our primary goal, no matter who ultimately prevails in the nomination. I hope Bernie addresses this and puts a stop to it immediately, but I'm not convinced that will happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,369 posts)in preparation for his new role as the BS advisor/speechwriter, the press phoned to ask why he was ashamed of his personal GE 2016 messaging campaign.
The Stein supporter claimed that he couldn't answer the phone because he was "tending a sick child".
He was actually out bowling with friends and a comfortable-enough liar to post this picture of his busy night "tending a sick child".
If the hat fits, wear it.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/sanders-promised-civility-hired-twitter-attack-dog/585259/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LuvLoogie
(7,061 posts)I think Bernie is fine with this because he sees the Democratic Party as an obstacle as well as a borrowed vehicle he can run into the ground.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,477 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,840 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,998 posts)The lies about Democrats have been pervasive.
Thanks for exposing these outright lies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)Sanders when he has told and shown us so very often.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ArtTownsend
(439 posts)Thank you.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lexee
(377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,813 posts)Dont kid yourself!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)it being promoted as principled, I would think.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,369 posts)snip===================================================================
Unmentioned to his 125,000 Twitter followers and readers of his articles, Sirota has been advising Sanders while publicly attacking the candidates critics and rivals. On Tuesday, the relationship became official Sirota was hired as a speechwriter and senior adviser to Sanders just as the Atlantic magazine called out what could be the journalists conflict of interest
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It remains unclear how long Sirota advised the Sanders camp before his hiring. Neither Sirota nor Sanderss representatives responded to multiple requests for comment on Wednesday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/a-bernie-sanders-supporter-and-journalist-had-a-secret-he-kept-from-his-readers/2019/03/20/063aabee-4b26-11e9-b79a-961983b7e0cd_story.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
murielm99
(30,778 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)He and Al Franken were apparently pals back in the day....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boomer_wv
(673 posts)In what Bernie is doing and what Trump does? They both take things out of context and twist them into some bastardized version....or just make things up. I'm not fooled that Sirota does this one his own. Sanders has him on staff for a reason.
This has gone on long enough. It happened in 2016 and is happening now.
I will not support Sanders in either a primary or general election. Playing into the Russian propoganda machine is just as bad as working with it directly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Shame.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,722 posts)Link to tweet
.
It is simply incredible that anyone in the business of informing people would circulate a video like this before verifying the full context. Have we really learned nothing in the past few years? One hopes this episode will be taken as a cautionary tale of whats coming.
The video in question, which your humble blogger will not link to, shows only 19 seconds of a 13-minute monologue that Biden delivered in New Hampshire. Biden had been asked by an audience member to speak about his work and his agenda on sexual assault and domestic violence....
One of the original purveyors of this disinformation (again, we wont link) is still pretending this was an honest depiction, and is accusing those who supplied the corrective context of being the real purveyors of disinformation. Take this as a glimpse of whats coming.....
All this is a sign of what the Democratic nominee could face. Its no wonder that some Democrats are worried we might even see deepfake media manipulations. Imagine such ultra-sophisticated video distortions of Bidens rambles, retweeted by Trump, and perhaps even by reporters.
Trump views disinformation not as a scourge to be combated in the name of protecting our democracy, but as an ally. In this particular case, Trump has not retweeted the video of Biden yet. But lets try to learn from this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,813 posts)This is disgusting
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hard Truth
(4 posts)I found an unedited video clip and article at https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/01/today-in-joe-biden-wants-to-means-test-social-secu.html
They quote Biden as saying Paul Ryan was correct when he did the tax code. What's the first thing he decided to go after? Social Security and Medicare. Now, we need to do something about Social Security and Medicare. That's the only way you can find room to pay for it. I don't know a whole lot of people in the top 1/10 of 1% or top 1% are relying on social security when they retire.
and they comment "Now, it may be tempting to give Biden a pass on this one because he's only targeting rich people, and he does go on to denounce the GOP tax bill. But the very idea of means-testing Social Security and Medicare, in any way, is anathema to progressives because it opens the door for further changessome of which will be implemented by the other side. It's supposed to be doctrine among the left that these two programs are untouchable unless they're being expanded, and for Biden to suggest reducing coverageeven if it's just for rich people, at the momentis shocking and worrisome. Especially when it's accompanied by praise for Paul Ryan, who wanted nothing more for his entire career than to gut these programs..."
Based on this information, I don't see Sirota's statement as inaccurate. (I have not seen an edited video from him) What am I missing?
In the clip Biden says that "the people at the top aren't bad guys." Then who is funding all the lobbyists, Republicans, think tanks and others who who push our legislators to cut services for the poor and middle class and give tax breaks and other subsidies to the rich?
Based on the video clip, it appears that, although Biden supports more progressive taxation, he would cut social security benefits (yes, for rich people) before he would reduce defense spending.
I plan to strongly avoid voting for any candidate who supports austerity measures impacting the poor and retirees without first drastically reducing defense spending, giveaways to the rich (many farm subsidies for example) and raising taxes on the extremely rich. I believe that many of the voters Democrats need to win, especially minorities and young people, agree. That statement will hurt Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,369 posts)Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(19,982 posts)Ideology, not truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mopinko
(70,274 posts)we need to tune up our bullshit detectors, people.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,844 posts)And if Bernie Sanders accepts this garbage? Well, you're known by the company you keep.
No excuses.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,369 posts)...and a second senior BS advisor retweets it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,713 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,369 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,722 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Lee Atwater, Karl Rove and Roger Stone of the Bernie campaign. I thought Democrats were above such dirty tricks. Oh .. wait .. not a Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)copying their techniques.
Just a reminder for newcomers and zealous deniers of what we're talking about:
Shortly before he gave speeches launching his 2020 campaign earlier this month, Bernie Sanders emailed his supporters, urging them to do our very best to engage respectfully with our Democratic opponentstalking about the issues we are fighting for, not about personalities or past grievances. I want to be clear that I condemn bullying and harassment of any kind and in any space.
What he didnt include was that one of the people already advising him and helping him write those launch speeches is one of his most famously aggressive supporters online.
Since December, David Sirota has, on Twitter, on the website Capital & Main, and in columns in The Guardian, been trashing most of Sanderss Democratic opponentsall without disclosing his work with Sanders... He centered many of his attacks on Beto ORourke, but he also bashed Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Joe Biden, Kirsten Gillibrand, Michael Bennet, John Hickenlooper, Mike Bloomberg, and even Andrew Cuomo.
A screenshot of one of the more than 20,000 tweets that Sirota deleted yesterday. [It won't copy but it's the one about how Democrats throw screaming temper tantrums and hate democracy.]
Sirotas hiring as a senior adviser and speechwriter was announced by the Sanders campaign on Tuesday morning after The Atlantic contacted the campaign and inquired about the undisclosed role Sirota held while attacking other Democrats.
Busted! Not that this ruthless, dishonest-politics side of Sanders was not at all new, it's decades old, and busted long before.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden