Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 06:24 PM Dec 2019

Buttigieg Says We Should Decriminalize All the Drugs

Last edited Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:20 PM - Edit history (1)

"I would not have said even five years ago what I believe now, which is that incarceration should not even be a response to drug possession.

But what I've seen is—while there continue to be all kinds of harms associated with drug possession and use—it's also the case that we have created, in an effort to deal with what amounts to a public health problem, we have created a bigger problem, a justice problem, and its own form of a health problem, if you think about the impact on a child.

We have kids in South Bend who have grown up with the incarceration of a parent as one of their first experiences. That makes them dramatically more likely to have an encounter with the criminal legal system.

And so I've always been skeptical of mass incarceration but now I believe more than ever we need to take really significant steps, like ending incarceration as a response to simple possession."

More: https://reason.com/2019/12/30/pete-buttigieg-says-we-should-decriminalize-all-the-drugs/

I think a better title for the article would have been "Buttigieg says incarceration shouldn't be a response to drug possession," but this is a good read--and there's also a video of his interview with the Des Moines Register's editorial board.

Edited to add: I didn't realize when I posted it that this is a Libertarian website. Sorry about that! However, it isn't tearing any of our candidates down, gives a lengthy direct quote and link to a video of Buttigieg speaking, so I hope it will stand.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
9 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Buttigieg Says We Should Decriminalize All the Drugs (Original Post) femmedem Dec 2019 OP
I actually agree with this JonLP24 Dec 2019 #1
I didn't know! I wasn't familiar with the website. Thanks. femmedem Dec 2019 #2
Have to agree with him on this one. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #3
Well, I just watched the whole interview. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2019 #4
Pete's variable accent. crazytown Dec 2019 #5
How interesting! I have not noticed this changing accent that you hear. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2019 #7
"We Should Decriminalize All the Drugs" myohmy2 Dec 2019 #6
I wholeheartedly agree with this. mike_c Dec 2019 #8
Not sure if I agree if applied to very large quantities of certain drugs. David__77 Dec 2019 #9
 

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
1. I actually agree with this
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:15 PM
Dec 2019

I don't mind that you did but Reason is a libertarian website. As long as they report positively on the Democratic candidate I don't have any issues.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
2. I didn't know! I wasn't familiar with the website. Thanks.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:18 PM
Dec 2019

I agree with it as well. I think Buttigieg is much more progressive than people give him credit for, although we have even more progressive candidates running.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
3. Have to agree with him on this one.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:23 PM
Dec 2019

And it's not just incarceration, but also not pushing users underground and giving them the help they need.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,622 posts)
4. Well, I just watched the whole interview.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:49 PM
Dec 2019

One hour and about 6 minutes.

Many questions were asked, and Pete answered them all. No notes, no written materials of any sort--just his incredible memory coming up with great answers.

He has an encyclopedic memory and if he becomes our President, we will all benefit from that. He is an astonishing thinker: clear, organized and logical.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
5. Pete's variable accent.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:36 PM
Dec 2019

Forgive me for mentioning this, but I find it distracting. My journey in this cycle has been Kamala, Pete, then Elizabeth Warren. Early on, I had the pleasure of listening to Pete's The Shortest Way Home. This man has a beautiful mind, and the narration was more than seductive, it was a pleasure. There were moments in the early TV town halls that took my breath away, where he he Ould pull the curtain back on an answer a little, to reveal an extraordinary depth of knowledge and analysis.

I've met two or three people in my life who I could describe as brilliant - people who are so smart, so fast, and so on top of their briefs, that you know they will be able to convince you, will chose their way, rather than your own, to do so. It's like playing tennis with someone who is so fast at the net the ball never bounces on their side of the court.

Chasten said, with Pete, he's the same person at home, as in the public sphere, despite being a very shy man. I found this reassuring. So it was off-putting later in the campaign to hear in speak with different accented vowels, and cadences with different audiences. Obviously he knows observers will pick it up, so I'm not sure what message, if any he is trying to send here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,622 posts)
7. How interesting! I have not noticed this changing accent that you hear.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:53 PM
Dec 2019

I hear you about the rest, though. His depth of knowledge, his seductive narrative--all of this and more are why I support his candidacy. He is such a great candidate.

I'm sorry that you find his way of speaking so distracting. And that you now don't support him. I think the depth of his mind, his knowledge and his caring all make me want to see him as our next President.

It may be unconscious on his part. I don't know, since I don't hear it at all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
6. "We Should Decriminalize All the Drugs"
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:48 PM
Dec 2019

...wow, what a suggestion...

...when's Pete going to suggest confiscating assault-style weapons?

...Beto could help him...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
8. I wholeheartedly agree with this.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 06:36 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

David__77

(23,409 posts)
9. Not sure if I agree if applied to very large quantities of certain drugs.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 07:50 PM
Dec 2019

I imagine that Buttigieg may take possession of large quantities of drugs to be evidence of intent to sell drugs rather than merely to use them oneself. I would not be surprised if he supported allowing for incarceration in some such cases.

While I understand the case for not incarcerating people for personal use of drugs and associated drug possession, I do think that possession of large quantities of drugs can be indicative of being part of a drug distribution chain.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Democratic Primaries»Buttigieg Says We Should ...