"Vote for us , we're incrementally better than our competition ..... ". REALLY?

[guillaumeb]

I read this reply in a post this morning, and in my view, this is unsupportable.

There is simply no comparison between the GOP and the Democrats.

Consider the following, partial list.

The ACA was passed by Democrats and opposed by the GOP.

Marriage equality was passed by Democrats and generally opposed by the GOP.

The National labor Relations Act was passed by Democrats and mainly opposed by the GOP.

Social Security was passed by a Democratic Administration and is still generally opposed by the GOP.

I could continue, but my point is that even though none of these achievements were perfect, or even close, they were proposed and passed because Democrats pushed for them. And the GOP in general opposes all of them.

So please, when we are discussing the various candidates, and their positions on the many issues, unless you are rich, the Democratic Party and its candidates will be much better in general on these issues than the GOP and its candidates will ever be.

[LiberalBrooke]

1. Read the party platforms.

Any Democratic candidate will be far and away better.

[guillaumeb]

4. Agreed. No platform is perfect. eom

[Hav]

2. Indirectly you also made another good point

The current platform of the Dem candidate is important, of course. But electing a Democrat and keeping sufficient majorities in Congress also preserves the good or steps in the right direction that got achieved in the past after hard battles, sometimes over decades. Obamacare is the best example for that.

[guillaumeb]

5. Yes, one requires the other. eom

[ritapria]

3. I thought the reply was dead on , accurate , trenchant

perhaps because I am the one who wrote it …...I am kidding, of course …. Your post is thoughtful and appreciated

[guillaumeb]

6. Thank you for that.

And I supported Sanders during the primaries in 2016. I did so because I believe that many changes are needed. But I also recognize that not every Democratic voter is in agreement on any program.

In my view, Medicare for All is the only way to accomplish what many other countries have done.

In my view, the Green New Deal represents the only sane approach to the climate catastrophe.

In my view, talk about a living wage should replace any talk about incrementally improving a starvation wage.

In my view, free college or trade school should be seen as a critical infrastructure investment.

[redqueen]

7. Maybe it's the 'what have you done for me lately' effect.

ACA and marriage equality are the only recent accomplishments on the list. Meanwhile working class and poor people are falling further and further behind. Many already make $15/hr so aren't really desperate for a raise in the MW.

[guillaumeb]

8. And it might be that some voters see a disconnect

between what politicians are speaking about and what some voters feel is more important.

At one time the working class saw the Democratic party as the party of the working class, and unions.

[redqueen]

9. Exactly - and now it's perceived as the party of the left only where social issues are concerned,

and that fiscally, we're on our own.

[guillaumeb]

10. The Libertarian/conservative myth of the self-made person.

Where all taxes are seen as takings.