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Related: About this forumSanders set to release medical history by end of year,,has he..???
Sen. Bernie Sanders presidential campaign says it still plans to release the 78-year-old Vermont senators health records along with a letter from his doctor by the end of December.
Sanders pledged to make his medical history public on Oct. 24, a week after returning to the campaign trail after suffering a heart attack.
I want to make it comprehensive, Sanders told the Associated Press at the time. The answer is I will, probably by the end of the year
https://vtdigger.org/2019/12/17/sanders-set-to-release-medical-history-by-end-of-year/
end of Dec is here.....Joe Has......I think most Candidates have.....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shotten99
(622 posts)Regardless who the nominee will be, this should be the answer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shotten99
(622 posts)IMHO, the nominee from both sides will be older than we are used to. It would be ideal to have someone younger, but I don't see it happening this time around. In that case, I'd say it's time to put this issue aside and focus on other issues and beating Trump in November.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)condition, we have no reason to believe Biden isn't the same person he always was, same type of occasional gaffs in speaking he's made for years. To my mind, he's seemingly tougher and less of a too-agreeable marshmallow after dealing with what his old buddies, the Republicans, have become in this century, but that's just development through experience.
As for Sanders, at one time I read everything I could find on and by him (thinking I might be able to support him after Warren declined to run in 2015), and my takeaway was no change in thinking. I think it would be a mistake to assume his deflecting to the same few standard statements in appearance after appearance might indicate dementia because they've been essentially the same for several decades. His family history doesn't indicate a predisposition to dementia, his passions are also still as revolutionary and national in scale as they always were, and, above all, that rigid thinking that might make one wonder has characterized him for 50 years.
Finally, questionable and bizarre as it may seem, Sanders' belief that Democrats are mostly just Republicans with hypocritical conceits of being better can't indicate age-related decline because, again, he's always believed that. And that rigid, unwavering conviction has always played a major role in his personal identity and ideology. Nothing new.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I'm sure he has them in his possession. What's the delay? How hard can it be to scan or photograph them and make a PDF?
I'll be very disappointed if the document shows signs of manipulation, font variations, white-out, black-out, or other redactions.
So basically, what I'm feeling is ████████████████ ████████ ████ ████████ ████████ ████ ████ ████████ ████ ████ and ████████ ████████ with ████████ ████ ████████. And that's all I have to say about that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
His CPA is doing the final calculations on his BP, heart rate, LVEF and GFR. Plus, his doctor is a "little bit busy"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)his pledges to make his tax returns public in 2016. Never happened.
He seems to have a pattern of not honoring his pledges. That, to me is more serious than anything else.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RazBerryBeret
(3,075 posts)he releases his taxes last August. 10 years of taxes.
I remember reading about his wealth, and then the GOP made a big deal about him being a millionaire...
There were lots of threads here about it as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)I am not holding my breath. The promised tax returns didn't materialize for 4 years and even then they were suspicious.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RazBerryBeret
(3,075 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)serious his medical issues were and the damage to his heart.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)But for most people the idea of an 80 year old man fresh of a heart attack taking on a highly stressful job is suboptimal regardless of what records are released.
Thats one of the many many reasons Bernie will not be the nominee and will not be president.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lexee
(377 posts)that his campaigned would have died.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lexee
(377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lexee
(377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OnDoutside
(19,957 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Link to tweet
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
getagrip_already
(14,756 posts)That reads like trumps medical release.
It's not a health record, it's an opinion. How about the stats? How about a board certified review?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)According to the letter from Dr. Monahan, Mr. Sanderss most recent physical examination, on Dec. 19, showed that he was 6 feet tall and 174 pounds. His blood pressure was 102/56, with a pulse of 62 beats per minute. His total cholesterol was 117 milligrams per deciliter of blood, HDL cholesterol (or good cholesterol) was 32 milligrams, and LDL cholesterol (or bad cholesterol) was 58 milligrams.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/us/politics/bernie-sanders-health-medical-records.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,095 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,095 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)as Sanders suffered.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)distract.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,095 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Were you at his bedside Dr. Garr?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)More proof that Bernie needed to release his medical records before other candidates who have not suffered debilitating cardiac arrests.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)How sweet, please take to your finger wagging and do it in front of a mirror. Thanks!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Let's not trivialize heart attacks. Thanks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)But keep telling yourself that, now my dog needs to take a shit, and that is profoundly more interesting than chatting with you. Bye
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)My 91-year-old stepfather has never had a heart attack. Bernie is 78 and had a heart attack. Stents and days of hospitalization. Where are his medical records?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,095 posts)Much more serious than a slight heart attack and stents.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)his medical records. Sanders is a 78-year-old man who had a heart attack in October of this year -- two months ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,095 posts)he had a blood clot in the lungs and a couple of life-threatening brain aneurysms. You don't get much nearer to death than those. If I want anyone's heath records its his.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)but, regardless, he did release his medical records. I bet you are aware that Biden already released his medical records, though, so this is just a distraction. Squirrel.
Sanders is a 78-year-old man who just had a heart attack two months ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,095 posts)Bernie underwent a cardiopulmonary exercise tolerance test December 11. His overall test performance rated above average compared to a reference population of the same age,
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-in-good-health-after-heart-attack-doctors-say/
Sanders, a senator from Vermont, released letters from the three doctors Monday, following through on his plan to disclose his health records by the end of the year.
Dr. Brian Monahan, the attending physician to Congress, said in one letter that Sanders, 78, is "in good health" and has been "engaging vigorously in the rigors of your campaign, travel, and other scheduled activities without any limitation."
Records released by Sanders' campaign reveal the senator underwent a physical examination December 19 and a treadmill stress test with continuous EKG monitoring December 11. The latter test is "an important clinical tool to evaluate exercise capacity and predict outcomes in patients with a cardiac condition," according to a letter from Dr. Philip Ades, the director of cardiac rehabilitation at the University of Vermont Medical Center.
Ades said Sanders exercised "to a level that is approximately 50% higher than other men his age with a similar diagnosis."
"Mr. Sanders is more than fit enough to pursue vigorous activities and an occupation that requires stamina and an ability to handle a great deal of stress," he wrote.
Sen. Bernie Sanders is in good health, nearly three months after suffering a heart attack, the attending physician at the US Capitol said in a letter released Monday.
https://kdvr.com/2019/12/30/bernie-sanders-is-in-good-health-after-heart-attack-doctor-says-in-summary-of-health/
Several of the medications you initially required (blood-thinner, beta blocker) were stopped based on your progress, Monahan wrote. Your heart muscle strength has improved. You have never had symptoms of congestive heart failure. The heart chamber sizes, wall thickness, estimated pressures, and heart valves are normal. Several 24-hour recordings of your heart electrical activity indicated no significant heat rhythm abnormality.
Later in the letter, Monahan said You are in good health currently and you have been engaging vigorously in the rigors of your campaign, travel, and other scheduled activities without any limitation.
The campaign also released two additional letters from physicians at the University of Vermont, who have examined Sanders since his heart attack earlier this year, saying that Sanders is in good health and making a strong recovery. The doctors, Philip Ades, Patrick Savage and Martin LeWinter, said they believed Sanders is fit to serve as president.
Sanders is not the first candidate to release his medical information. Earlier this month, former Vice President Joe Biden, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg all in their 70s released reports or letters from their doctors.
You might want to mention to the OP that Bernie's information has been released.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)must be why Bernie was trying to keep the info from the public. Biden hasnt tried to hide his health/medical, but this isnt about Biden anyways.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,095 posts)his aneurysms and his blood clot. And yes it is about Biden, it's about any candidate that I want to compare him with heath wise. And that's Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Which I suspect you already knew, which makes your whataboutism rather silly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,095 posts)doctor releasing a summary. Only Bernie's doctors summary isn't good enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)All in complete pdf ....
Records
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/17/joe-biden-health-doctor-medical-records-president
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,773 posts)That is a pretty thorough report on VP Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
musicman65
(524 posts)Each, one has their qualities,and own health issues,however,bash we shall not we are in the race for all humanity
defeating the orange one
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
David__77
(23,418 posts)That said, he did not release samples for the public to review and test, and so I imagine there may be suspicion on that account.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,095 posts)Google. It's a thing that works.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,334 posts)Just a summary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,095 posts)released letters derailing her health. Got a gripe about that?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,095 posts)but not in PDF
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)There's absolutely NO WAY that Bernie stands 6-feet tall. They can't BOTH be six feet tall... unless Joe is actually 6 feet 6 inches tall.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cornus
(871 posts)...and then look at the height of their shoulders. Should give you a clue.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Here are some others that are more at a "head on" angle. So what's the excuse now?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
revmclaren
(2,523 posts)not a summary note from his Dr.
Unfortunately, I think I and most Democratic voters will be waiting long into the year if we see the whole report at all.
Just another reason most Clinton supporters refuse to consider Sanders (I-VT) in the primaries.
ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,095 posts)Clinton supporters can consider whoever they chose, that's what a primary is for. None of my business, I don't care who they support.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,208 posts)and post #30 in this thread was a deflection?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,095 posts)something, just Google it. I found out both Biden and Bernie's doctors released "letters summarizing their health". Of course I didn't give a shit about their medical information and Bernie's doctor had a press conference after his heart attack saying he was fine. I'm confident in my thinking that neither would run if they had health issues. Are you upset that it seems a lot of other posters didn't know and posted asking about it and didn't Google to find out? I kind of doubt that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,208 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,265 posts)Dr. Brian Monahan, Sanders attending physician at the Capitol, wrote the Vermont senator was in good health but has had a variety of medical conditions over the years, including a hernia surgery in 2015 as well as the removal of superficial skin tumors and a cyst from his vocal cords, according to the Washington Post.
Monahan also reported that Sanders has had gout a form of arthritis a mild case of high cholesterol, diverticulitis inflammation of the digestive tract an underactive thyroid condition, and lower back issues.
https://vtdigger.org/2019/12/17/sanders-set-to-release-medical-history-by-end-of-year/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,095 posts)Biden doctor said he has persistent atrial fibrillation, a type of irregular heartbeat that's potentially serious but treatable.His heart is functioning normally and his only needed care is a blood thinner to prevent the most worrisome risk, blood clots or stroke. He has had blood clots in the lung and two aneurysms He keeps his cholesterol at healthy levels with the use of a statin medication. He has had several small, non-melanoma skin cancers removed over the years. But the letter from his doctor makes no mention of a cardiac stress test, which would eliminate any questions about heart function. Biden also has diverticulitis and has had several orthopedic injuries.
https://go.joebiden.com/page/-/CiU2iAa4Ig_%20j5EQzueoad.pdf
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,095 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,265 posts)Until he does, it's unwise to reach conclusions.
That's why I was wondering if BS still has gout, rather than asserting things I do not know.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,095 posts)summary of his health. None of them released their medical records, thinking one did is jumping to conclusions.
Liz's doctor also released a letter summary of her health. Warren takes medication for hypothyroidism, a common condition in which the thyroid gland is underactive, according to the letter. Her blood pressure is 115/57, and she has had a flu shot this year. Her doctor also provided a hematology report including information on everything from her platelet count to the size of her red blood cells.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-releases-physicians-letter-attesting-to-her-health/2019/12/05/d8a2822a-17ac-11ea-a659-7d69641c6ff7_story.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,265 posts)Sanders pledged to make his medical history public on Oct. 24, a week after returning to the campaign trail after suffering a heart attack.
I want to make it comprehensive, Sanders told the Associated Press at the time. The answer is I will, probably by the end of the year.
Faiz Shakir, Sanders campaign manager, later added to reporters that Sanders health records would include a letter from his doctor that would show he had made a full recovery from his heart attack earlier that month.
https://vtdigger.org/2019/12/17/sanders-set-to-release-medical-history-by-end-of-year/
Did the letter mention whether BS still has gout?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(58,865 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden