UPDATE: Biden says he won't comply with a subpoena based on an unlawful basis - nothing to offer..

[Skya Rhen]

Link to tweet

[bluewater]

1. Isn't that Trump's excuse?

Who is to decide which Congressional supeonas are lawful or not?

Aren't they all lawful? Trump is claiming the 71 supeonas issued against him were invalid too.



I am baffled why Biden even made the statement that he would not comply with a supeona from the Senate.

Biden says he wouldn't comply with Senate subpoena in Trump impeachment trial

Joe Biden said in an NPR interview published on Monday that he would not comply if the U.S. Senate subpoenaed him during its impeachment trial of President Donald Trump.

https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2019/12/09/biden-says-he-wouldnt-comply-senate-subpoena-trump-impeachment-trial/2631027001/

[treestar]

2. He meant challenge it in court

and the courts are hopefully not stacked enough to allow Dotard a subpoena of someone without relevant testimony. No court allows far fetched evidence that has nothing to do with the issues being tried. Dotard is acting like a child, and so are his supporters and enablers.

[LAS14]

18. Did he really invoke the courts? Link?

That's what the Republicans are doing as a delaying tactic as I understand it. I do hope Joe said he'd invoke the courts. Otherwise it was an flat out insane thing to say.

[Perseus]

3. There we go, say the wrong thing then have to "make things clear" the next day

Someone needs to be by Joe's side to make sure they can stop him when he is about to say the wrong thing. This was one time when just saying "No comment" was the right answer.

[bluewater]

5. So, basically, the 2nd Article of Impeachment is toast?

Didn't Trump claim all 71 supeonas issued by Congress were invalid too and that he would challenge them in court?

This was a huge unforced error on Biden's part that gives the Rebublicans an excuse to justify Trump's misconduct.

[DownriverDem]

10. There you go

Are you perfect?

[DownriverDem]

35. Don't care

Biden is still the best candidate to beat trump.

[wellst0nev0ter]

4. Joe is very bad at this

He just handed a gift to McConnell and the rest of the Trump enablers.

Just say I'll testify because I got nothing to hide. Hillary Clinton did it, so should Biden.

This isn't complicated.

[DownriverDem]

11. Not the same

Biden will testify after trump's White House staff complies with their subpoena requests. Why would anyone on our side want Biden to play trump's/repub's game unless they are supporting someone else?

[wellst0nev0ter]

20. Then that's what he should say

"I'll testify if Trump and his cronies testify. I have nothing to hide." Why does he have to throw a monkey wrench into it?

[DownriverDem]

36. Focus

on who can beat trump and not attack the Dems.

[wellst0nev0ter]

37. Any one of them can beat trump

But who can beat the trumpanzees? Not Biden.

[George II]

12. No he isn't and no he didn't. There won't even be a Senate subpoena. But it sure is....

....giving a lot of his detractors fodder this morning.

[wellst0nev0ter]

21. It seems like Biden supporters are circling the wagon

I wonder why

[Cha]

22. little bones to chew on.

[treestar]

25. He could have said he'd challenge it

to have it quashed. No one should be subpoenaed randomly and when they have no relevant evidence to give. Biden doesn't know about Dotard's stupid phone call.

[wellst0nev0ter]

26. You know the pukes will try to absolve Drumpf

by saying he was trying to fight corruption.

Biden's testimony, if he does his job right, would put that bullshit to rest.

[boomer_wv]

38. How did that testimony

Work out for.Clinton?

[wellst0nev0ter]

39. It actually gave her a bounce

https://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/11/03/clintons-explanations-on-benghazi-attacks-winning-over-voters-wsjnbc-poll/

But this time its 45 on the defensive. You do NOT give him an inch.

[boomer_wv]

40. Momentarily

In the long run it was used against her.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. He absolutely should challenge a subpoena in court.

Trump wants him there just to divert attention from his wrongdoing, to complicate the proceedings and to allow the GOPers to try to damage Biden's reputation. Biden has nothing to offer that's relevant to whether Trump did what the House said he did or whether he should be removed from office. He is not a percipient witness.

[H2O Man]

7. +1

[emmaverybo]

16. That's it exactly. Total deflection. As to Clinton's acceptance and his intent to challenge, no

equivalency. The senate had put Clinton on trial, unfairly, but nonetheless she was being tried so she defended herself.

In this case, it is Trump who is to be tried on impeachable acts, to which Biden was not a witness. If they want to try Biden, let them try him. Of course, that’s what they want to do.

He is not only politically and legally correct to challenge a subpoena, he is morally right to do so.

[Xipe Totec]

8. Biden is not a first hand witness to any of Donald Trump's numerous crimes. nt

[Peacetrain]

9. +1000

[Thekaspervote]

13. Good for Joe!!

[onetexan]

27. +1 -K&R

[Jim__]

14. How do you think Barr would react to Biden's refusing to comply with a subpoena?

A full blown FBI raid with a Fox nooze crew in tow?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

17. He wouldn't just refuse like the GOPers; he'd challenge it in court.

[floppyboo]

15. Joe should listen to his handlers. Public speaking only when necessary.

He hasn't even got his story credibly straight with friendly media.
Not saying he has done anything that would warrant appearing, but, come on man - it would be a disaster for the party.

[Cha]

23. We're not listening to your insults.

[Kingofalldems]

24. Nice.

[onetexan]

28. Ditto!!

Cha

[Cha]

33. Aloha, onetexan!

[LakeArenal]

32. "Not saying, but"...I'm saying.

[Cha]

34. Consider the source.

Aloha, LakeArenal!

[Autumn]

19. Well at least he clarified it. It would have been better for him to laugh in the questioners face

and ask why he should be subpoenaed.

[OldRed2450]

29. I don't give a poop about this issue at all.

We all know Joe. We know exactly how he will govern. He will respect norms and the constitution more than any other candidate would. How do we know? We've seen him do just that all his life.

[texasfiddler]

30. Maybe Biden could consider complying

If all of the witnesses (Bolton, Trump, etc.) testify first. Trump is the one on Trial. It’ll never happen so the result is the same and fair is fair. That is what I would advise Biden to say, if I could.

[JustAnotherGen]

31. He has nothing to do

With the July 25th call and actions taken afterwards