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Love Will Conquer Hate: Bernie Visits Islamic Center in California (Original Post) Uncle Joe Mar 2019 OP
He is just stealing Hillary's campaign slogans Bev54 Mar 2019 #1
I noticed that also. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #2
+1...nt SidDithers Mar 2019 #3
The phrase "love conquering hate" or something similar to that has been around a lot longer Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #4
P.S. I believe Hillary's slogan was "stronger together" in 2016 Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #15
I knw there is a political dimension to this video but it really is good and very personal at points Tom Rinaldo Mar 2019 #6
I thought so as well. Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #7
Was this a second mosque he visited BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #8
Bernie Sanders Visits Mosque to Talk Security, and GOP "Demagogues" Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #9
That is an article from December 2015 BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #10
Maybe we should ask this question of all candidates, or is it just Bernie we need to ask. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #12
Only Bernie is visiting mosques and getting photo ops n/t BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #13
LOL, right. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #14
Thanks for posting David__77 Mar 2019 #11
Thank you David. Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #17
Love Trumps Hate! WeekiWater Mar 2019 #16
 

Bev54

(10,072 posts)
1. He is just stealing Hillary's campaign slogans
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:09 PM
Mar 2019
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. I noticed that also.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:17 PM
Mar 2019
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Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
4. The phrase "love conquering hate" or something similar to that has been around a lot longer
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:25 PM
Mar 2019

than 2016.




The phrase "violence begets violence" (or "hate begets hate" ) means that violent behavior promotes other violent behavior, in return. The phrase has been used since at least the 1830s.[1]

Violence begets violence is a concept described in the Gospel of Matthew, verse 26:52.[2][3][4] The passage depicts a disciple (identified in the Gospel of John as Saint Peter) drawing a sword to defend against the arrest of Jesus but being told to sheath his weapon:

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."[5]

Words by Martin Luther King Jr.
Martin Luther King Jr. (1929–1968) used the phrase when saying:[6][7][8]

Hate begets hate; violence begets violence; toughness begets a greater toughness. We must meet the forces of hate with the power of love... Our aim must never be to defeat or humiliate the white man, but to win his friendship and understanding.[6]

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy, instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate.

Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.[9]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_begets_violence

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Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
5. P.S. I believe Hillary's slogan was "stronger together" in 2016
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:39 PM
Mar 2019

at least according to CNN.



(CNN)Hillary Clinton's campaign considered and rejected 84* potential slogans before landing on the now-familiar "Stronger Together," according to a hacked email posted Wednesday by WikiLeaks.

(snip)

https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/wikileaks-hillary-clinton-campaign-slogans-ranked/index.html




Furthermore I'm not sure that Bernie has formally made this his official campaign slogan, so much as using this profound piece of wisdom to fight the vile hatred that Trump spews on a daily basis to the nation and world at large.

I believe Bernie's slogan best as I can tell is "Not me, Us"
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Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
6. I knw there is a political dimension to this video but it really is good and very personal at points
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:50 PM
Mar 2019

It is nice to see Sanders open up that way in a meaningful setting.

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Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
7. I thought so as well.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:53 PM
Mar 2019

Thank you Tom.

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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
8. Was this a second mosque he visited
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:05 PM
Mar 2019

in so many days or is it the same one with a 5th OP?

Also, how many times did Bernie visit a mosque prior to running for president? Has he ever been to one in Vermont? There are two of them there.

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Uncle Joe

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9. Bernie Sanders Visits Mosque to Talk Security, and GOP "Demagogues"
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:12 PM
Mar 2019


“They want us to believe that the average Muslim is a terrorist.”

EMILY SCHULTHEISNATIONAL JOURNAL
DEC 16, 2015

(snip)


On Wednesday, the Vermont senator told a small crowd at Washington’s Masjid Muhammad (also known as “the Nation’s Mosque”) that “demagogues” trying to divide the country are acting in “shameful” ways in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, Calif. He then stressed the strides the country has made to overcome hatred and discrimination in the past.

(snip)

Sitting at a table with a coterie of religious leaders from around DC—Imam Talib Shareef of the Nation’s Mosque, Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), Rev. Reginald Green, Rabbi Batya Steinhauf, and Chaplain Abdul-Rasheed Muhammad of the Department of Veterans’ Affairs—Sanders spoke about the history of bigotry and urged Americans to avoid letting fear divide them.

“It’s no secret that throughout the world and in our own country we have seen centuries of bigotry and intimidation, sometimes with unspeakable results,” Sanders said, listing the Holocaust, Rwanda and Bosnia as prime examples of times hateful rhetoric has caused unnecessary and tragic violence.

He denounced the recent rhetoric of “demagogues” when it comes to Muslim immigration, calling out GOP real estate mogul Donald Trump by name and saying the anti-Muslim comments have prompted an increase in hate speech across America.

(snip)


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/bernie-sanders-visits-mosque-to-talk-security-and-gop-demagogues/457986/

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BlueFlorida

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10. That is an article from December 2015
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 12:18 AM
Mar 2019

when he was already running for POTUS.

My questions were simple.

1. How many times has he visited a mosque before running for POTUS?

2. Has he ever visited one of the two mosques in Vermont?

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vsrazdem

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12. Maybe we should ask this question of all candidates, or is it just Bernie we need to ask.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 07:58 AM
Mar 2019
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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
13. Only Bernie is visiting mosques and getting photo ops n/t
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 08:09 AM
Mar 2019
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David__77

(23,516 posts)
11. Thanks for posting
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 01:28 AM
Mar 2019

...

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WeekiWater

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16. Love Trumps Hate!
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:03 AM
Mar 2019

Get on board the Clinton train! That is one of the signs I had in my front yard.

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