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comradebillyboy

(10,174 posts)
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 01:54 PM Dec 2019

Politico Claims Dems Think Bernie Can 'Win the Nomination' Even Though Zero of Them Said That

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/politico-claims-dems-think-bernie-can-win-the-nomination-even-though-zero-of-them-said-that/

On Thursday, Politico published an article entitled “Democratic insiders: Bernie could win the nomination” that quoted a number of prominent figures urging that Sanders’ candidacy be taken seriously, but none of them came close to predicting a Sanders victory in the primary.

For example, Dan Pfeiffer, a former senior adviser to President Barack Obama, said “I believe people should take him very seriously,” noted Sanders’ polling strength in early states like Iowa, Vermont, and Nevada, and said that Sanders “could build a real head of steam heading into South Carolina and Super Tuesday.”

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The truth is that Bernie Sanders has not been taken seriously enough in the political coverage of the Democratic primary race. That has worked somewhat to his advantage, as Politico notes, because he has escaped the kind of scrutiny that might negatively impact him. Elizabeth Warren sank in the polls after she was pressured into releasing plans to finance Medicare for All that included not even voting on Medicare for All until the end of her first term.
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
1. More Con Dis-Info, This Is Politico People
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:00 PM
Dec 2019

We've had enough of fakey news. If he can win, he'll be up in the polls, and win primaries (not caucuses which can be another form of dis-info).

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George II

(67,782 posts)
2. Yes, Politico in the eyes of Mediaite! All we need is The Hill and commondreams and....
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:04 PM
Dec 2019

....we'll hit the superfecta!

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comradebillyboy

(10,174 posts)
4. The political press leaves much to be desired. Never the less I found
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:20 PM
Dec 2019

this article an amusing counterpoint to the Politico write up. Best wishes for the new year.

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BootinUp

(47,185 posts)
3. Sshhh go to sleep.... you feel sleepy.....
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:05 PM
Dec 2019
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Gothmog

(145,530 posts)
5. That article may be bad for sanders in that the media may start vetting sanders
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:21 PM
Dec 2019

If the media starts covering sanders, then the media will also start vetting sanders which will be fun




While Sanders’ supporters complain relentlessly that he has received less attention from the media than other candidates, he has also avoided sustained criticism that some of his rivals have suffered. That could be helping him, especially compared with Warren, who has recently come under fire from the left and center for her health care plan.

“If you really think about it, Bernie hasn’t been hit a lot with anything. It’s not like he’s getting hit by other campaigns,” said Michael Ceraso, a former New Hampshire director for Pete Buttigieg’s campaign who worked for Sanders in 2016. ….

If Sanders’ candidacy continues to be taken seriously, he will eventually be subjected to the scrutiny that Warren and Biden have faced for prolonged stretches. That includes an examination of his electability. “That conversation has never worked well for anyone,” Pfeiffer said

There is so much oppo that is out there on sanders that trump would win 45+ states by merely playing the video clips of sanders praising Cuba, socialism, and Central American regimes on a loop.
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comradebillyboy

(10,174 posts)
6. Indeed, more attention may not be what he really wants.
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:23 PM
Dec 2019

Best wishes for the new year.

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
7. Nominee Bernie ?
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:23 PM
Dec 2019

How ?.. Win Iowa , NH , NV , close 2nd in SC and crush it in CA and the rest of the non-Southern States on Super Tuesday … Bernie has the money and nationwide grass roots movement to pull it off … Chance of winning nomination : 3 in 10 ... Those who refuse to acknowledge Bernie has a real shot need to stop swimming in the River Denial ….

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comradebillyboy

(10,174 posts)
8. Can Bernie really do all those things?
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:25 PM
Dec 2019

Best wishes for the new year.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
10. He's in a virtual 4-way tie in IA, 2-way tie in NH (with Buttigieg), distant 3rd in NV....
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:31 PM
Dec 2019

....and distant 3rd in SC.

His "grass roots movement" isn't doing him much good, especially in Iowa. He touts his "25,000" ground game in Iowa (that's one for every 24 Democratic voters) and yet he doesn't even have a clear lead, indeed he's second by 22-20 behind Buttigieg.

One can have all the money in the world and a huge "grass roots movement", but if people don't agree with the message they're not going to vote for him.

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msongs

(67,438 posts)
9. politico lol, writers who can't get a real job peddle junk on politico nt
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:29 PM
Dec 2019
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Gothmog

(145,530 posts)
11. The politico article also talks about sanders' floor and ceiling
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:32 PM
Dec 2019

The article is not that helpful to sanders. It discuses the fact that sanders has a floor and ceiling of support https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/26/can-bernie-sanders-win-2020-election-president-089636

Many moderate Democrats still dismiss Sanders’ candidacy. They believe his so-called ceiling remains intact and that Warren will depress any room for growth he might otherwise have.

“He can’t win the nomination,” said Matt Bennett, co-founder of the center-left group Third Way, adding that Sanders’ uptick is simply him “bouncing around between his ceiling and his floor a little bit more than people had thought he would.”
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Lexee

(377 posts)
13. This. That is not going to change.
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:37 PM
Dec 2019
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BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
14. He could win. It's not out of the realm of possibility.
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:43 PM
Dec 2019

It’s just unlikely is all. But it’s not like he doesn’t stand a chance like some of the others.

He had his best chance in 2016 but he didn’t know it until it was too late.

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
15. New York Times Politics Editor Patrick Healy just tweeted
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 04:14 PM
Dec 2019

"It's increasingly clear , 39 days before the Iowa Caucuses, that Bernie Sanders has distinct political strengths that could help him win the 2020 Democratic Nomination .."

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DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
16. Not this Dem
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 04:27 PM
Dec 2019

We will all say hi to trump's second term if that were to happen.

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Lexblues

(180 posts)
17. I really don't see how he can be nominated
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 04:56 PM
Dec 2019

When I'd say a good 30%-40% of the party is HARD against him. Most of the party is not as left wing as Bernie. Sure, he has a chance to win some contests as he did in 2016, but I just don't see him winning the nomination.

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