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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 04:47 AM Dec 2019

A really good Twitter thread explaining how stupid the fundraising fight is


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Really worth reading.

The dishonesty about this subject infuriates me, particularly crap like candidates "pledging" not to take money from SuperPACs, which is illegal to begin with.
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A really good Twitter thread explaining how stupid the fundraising fight is (Original Post) Recursion Dec 2019 OP
Perfect. betsuni Dec 2019 #1
recursion, I just posted a link to this post in the Biden2020 Forum Sloumeau Dec 2019 #2
Oh glad to hear that Recursion Dec 2019 #3
Another important point in the thread: KitSileya Dec 2019 #4
In 2016 cycle Hillary raised $278 million for DNC & States. Sanders raised zero $0.00. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2019 #5
Perfect summary, easy for all to understand Hav Dec 2019 #6
YES!!! comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #7
This! K&R NYMinute Dec 2019 #8
Wow PatSeg Dec 2019 #9
K&R nt PhoenixDem Dec 2019 #10
Dishonesty, hypocrisy, and outrageous irresponsibility in an Hortensis Dec 2019 #11
It's a silly thread. Pretending bundlers aren't a thing. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #12
No.. this "...Warren and Sanders are trying to portray Dems as corrupt.." Cha Dec 2019 #14
K&R ismnotwasm Dec 2019 #13
Wow, that was really informative PatSeg Dec 2019 #15
Such an excellent thread! Thanks for posting how the R B Garr Dec 2019 #16
Can you assemble the entire thread? wiley Dec 2019 #17
When some dishonest candidates make that meaningless "pledge," what they're really doing... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #18
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Dec 2019 #19
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
2. recursion, I just posted a link to this post in the Biden2020 Forum
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 05:33 AM
Dec 2019

Thank you so much for this posting. That tweetstorm by Old Lady Dem is amazing!

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
3. Oh glad to hear that
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 06:02 AM
Dec 2019

And, yeah, this is a great set of Tweets. People get so worked up about campaign finance and don't bother to learn how it actually works.

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KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
4. Another important point in the thread:
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 06:48 AM
Dec 2019
https://mobile.twitter.com/oldladydem/status/1209165772666417152

It's about down ticket races too - A President Sanders would be unable to do anything if Congress turns red, and if the repukes get 34 state legislatures and the governorships in those same states, they could literally change the Constitution. If Senator Sanders thinks that protests outside Congress wiuld have any effect, he's incredibly naive. 2020 is a census year, for crying out loud.
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Bernardo de La Paz

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5. In 2016 cycle Hillary raised $278 million for DNC & States. Sanders raised zero $0.00.
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 08:05 AM
Dec 2019

From the tweet thread in the OP.

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
6. Perfect summary, easy for all to understand
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 08:06 AM
Dec 2019

That was indeed a good and illuminating read.
Kind of interesting how rules are bent, twisted and circumvented. Gaming the system yourself beyond the intentions of the laws while accusing the others of corruption who are fighting for a level playing field is quite the brazen play.

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PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
9. Wow
Wed Dec 25, 2019, 03:53 PM
Dec 2019

That really puts things into perspective. Thanks for posting.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Dishonesty, hypocrisy, and outrageous irresponsibility in an
Wed Dec 25, 2019, 04:52 PM
Dec 2019

existential election year infuriate me too.

Warren, though, seems to have gotten carried away by what she's in the middle of. Hopefully the backlash to this shocking behavior will restore some perspective and cause her to look out and around. She's not an extremist or other whackjob. She knows and must care that the damage Republicans have done to progressive government so far is nothing to what they'll do if they appoint another flunky to SCOTUS, and of course just have another 4 years to tear our institutions apart from the inside.

Sanders is just being what he is and will continue no matter the consequences. In 50 years he's believed it doesn't much matter which of the only two parties can win takes power. His contempt was so profound he didn't even bother to vote through the civil rights era, by his own claim didn't even vote for Medicare; first vote was for himself. (!)

So, I expect better from Warren, and I watch and wonder at the poll numbers for Sanders.


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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
12. It's a silly thread. Pretending bundlers aren't a thing.
Wed Dec 25, 2019, 05:04 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Cha

(297,304 posts)
14. No.. this "...Warren and Sanders are trying to portray Dems as corrupt.."
Wed Dec 25, 2019, 09:12 PM
Dec 2019

is Ridiculous..

Here's ol BS surrogate Shaun King swooping in with his attempt to one upmanship EW.. More Ridiculousness..


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PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
15. Wow, that was really informative
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:23 AM
Dec 2019

Thank you so much for posting.

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R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
16. Such an excellent thread! Thanks for posting how the
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:15 PM
Dec 2019

information scam is being perpetrated.

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wiley

(2,921 posts)
17. Can you assemble the entire thread?
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 03:01 PM
Dec 2019

That would be great!

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Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. When some dishonest candidates make that meaningless "pledge," what they're really doing...
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 03:10 PM
Dec 2019
The dishonesty about this subject infuriates me, particularly crap like candidates "pledging" not to take money from SuperPACs, which is illegal to begin with.
When some dishonest candidates make that meaningless "pledge," what they're really doing is insinuating that they are somehow different from OTHER Democrats and that OTHER Democrats are breaking the law by accepting money from PAC's.

It's a clever and not so subtle way to make false and unsubstantiated accusations without actually having to call anyone out specifically.

It's almost the same as the candidate who pledges to not take corporate donations (also against the law) but accuses OTHER Democrats of "accepting corporate donations" simply because a secretary at Novartis or a truck driver for Exxon has made a personal donation. When the secretary lists his employer as Novartis, the dishonest candidate wants us to believe that it's a "corporate donation".

I hate dishonest candidates.
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