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TexasTowelie

(112,443 posts)
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:18 PM Dec 2019

Why Biden Is Leading

By Robert Kuttner


There is one key reason why Joe Biden is ahead in the national polls despite his lapses on the campaign trail, his loss of focus in debates, and the sense that he is an old man from another era. He has made his campaign about one thing—getting Donald Trump out of office.

And that’s the one thing that unites Democrats of the center and the left. Consider this TV spot, drawn from speeches in which Biden effectively makes the case that his campaign has one paramount goal—ousting Trump.

Now this doesn’t mean Biden would make the most effective Democratic candidate against Trump. I happen to think that Biden’s serial weaknesses as a campaigner would enable Trump to eat him alive, not to mention the embarrassment and distraction of Hunter Biden. The former vice president’s son is both a lightning rod and a trigger for Biden’s temper, as well as an unsavory reminder of similarities with Trump’s family.

The puzzle is not why Biden is making the defeat of Trump the centerpiece of his campaign for the nomination. The puzzle is why other candidates are whacking away at each other rather than going after Trump.

Read more: https://prospect.org/blogs/tap/why-biden-is-leading/
(American Prospect)
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Why Biden Is Leading (Original Post) TexasTowelie Dec 2019 OP
I find Kuttnr's reasoning mostly flawed but he did produce one gem: comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #1
Yes PatSeg Dec 2019 #4
Biden's lead in natioal polling ritapria Dec 2019 #2
What specifically leads you to allege that? LanternWaste Dec 2019 #3
Yes PatSeg Dec 2019 #5
You'll likely not get a response BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #14
This and the Ukraine Scheme shows that Trump fears him. Sneederbunk Dec 2019 #6
No. The reason he's ahead is because people know him, and like him, The Valley Below Dec 2019 #7
What Biden should say videohead5 Dec 2019 #8
+1000 Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #9
He also has NOT loaned his name to someone by endorsing a Republican-funded misogynist who defends... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #10
I love this ad Gothmog Dec 2019 #11
if beating Trump.... quickesst Dec 2019 #12
He's leading because he is the most qualified candidate by far, has the ability to touch people's emmaverybo Dec 2019 #13
 

comradebillyboy

(10,175 posts)
1. I find Kuttnr's reasoning mostly flawed but he did produce one gem:
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:28 PM
Dec 2019
The puzzle is not why Biden is making the defeat of Trump the centerpiece of his campaign for the nomination. The puzzle is why other candidates are whacking away at each other rather than going after Trump.
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PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
4. Yes
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:39 PM
Dec 2019

That is the part that stood out to me as well. I generally don't agree with a lot of what he said otherwise. I wish the other candidates would realize that Democratic voters are really turned off by the attacks on fellow Democrats. It is one of the things we can't stand about Trump and don't appreciate it from candidates of our own party.

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
2. Biden's lead in natioal polling
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:29 PM
Dec 2019

is due to the fact that he has around 60% support amongst African-Americans over the age of 45 ...These voters don't seem to care about his gaffes and debate performances …….. They seem focused on his role as loyal Vice -President to Barack Obama ...

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. What specifically leads you to allege that?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:31 PM
Dec 2019

"They seem focused on his role as loyal Vice -President to Barack Obama ..."

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PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
5. Yes
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:41 PM
Dec 2019

I'm sure there are many reasons why they are supporting Biden. He has been far more than a loyal vice president to Barack Obama.

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BannonsLiver

(16,460 posts)
14. You'll likely not get a response
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:25 PM
Dec 2019

That poster seems to like to deposit horrendously bad hot takes without ever addressing them beyond the hot take part.

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Sneederbunk

(14,303 posts)
6. This and the Ukraine Scheme shows that Trump fears him.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:52 PM
Dec 2019
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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
7. No. The reason he's ahead is because people know him, and like him,
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:59 PM
Dec 2019

and know he embodies the best liberal values of the Democratic Party.

And that he is wise, rational, and exhibits great judgement.

His presidency will restore America after an aberrant four years.

Biden will deliver real progress once elected. And that's how one should measure what it means to be a "progressive."

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videohead5

(2,181 posts)
8. What Biden should say
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:01 PM
Dec 2019

My son is a grown man. If you don't like it that he took a job on the board of Burisma fine. My son is not running for president I am.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. He also has NOT loaned his name to someone by endorsing a Republican-funded misogynist who defends...
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:14 PM
Dec 2019

He also has NOT loaned his name to someone by endorsing a Republican-funded misogynist who defends sexual animal abuse (ie: bestiality) by arguing that it's okay as long as the horse comes and is sexually gratified too.

I like the fact that Biden has common sense and knows how to avoid these types of embarrassing errors.

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quickesst

(6,283 posts)
12. if beating Trump....
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:56 PM
Dec 2019

.... Is why Joe Biden is leading, simple logic dictates that is what is most important to voters, hence his lead.

"I happen to think that Biden’s serial weaknesses as a campaigner would enable Trump to eat him alive"

The only way Trump "eats" any of the candidates alive is if he brings a fork and a knife to the debates. I would be embarrassed to be the author of the above quote.

The fact of the matter is the other candidates are going after Trump. The difference is, Joe Biden's message is resonating more with voters.

Bottom line? If I had written this editorial, I would have slept on it before publishing, and saved myself from humiliating embarrassment.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
13. He's leading because he is the most qualified candidate by far, has the ability to touch people's
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:12 PM
Dec 2019

hearts when he speaks, out of the gate had the most resonant message, and “reminds us of who we are.” He’s leading because he has proven leadership ability. He’s leading because he is one of
America’s most respected and loved politicians.

He’s leading because unlike any other candidate, he has stature on the world stage. He is leading with the most important Dem constituency, AA voters because he has been cultivating relationships with AA leaders and communities for decades, unlike some of his rivals who seem to have only recently discovered them. Detractors are surprised about his lead because they underestimate Joe Biden.

Many of us supporters are not surprised and know that there are many factors involved in Biden’s success thus far in this campaign as Biden has multiple strengths. And ironically, though he may get tongue tied on occasion in debate, he’s leading because so often it is Joe Biden who has “the best words.”

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Joe Biden reminded all of us of what a presidential president would sound like

August 7, 2019 at 2:52 p.m. PDT
In a fiery and blunt speech slamming the tenor, tone and words of President Trump as the nation reels from white nationalist domestic terrorism, former vice president Joe Biden reminded all of us of what a presidential president sounds like. His words were stirring. His delivery was passionate. And they were befitting a man who kicked off his campaign with a video decrying Trump’s shameful response to Charlottesville.
This is no knock on the other Democratic presidential candidates, particularly Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.), who gave his own speech on Wednesday at the historic Mother Emanuel church in Charleston, S.C., where a white supremacist murdered nine African American parishoners in 2015. All of the candidates have a moral core and fundamental senses of decency and empathy that Trump never possessed. Yet, unlike teleprompter Trump’s hollow remarks about the carnage in El Paso and Dayton, Ohio, Biden came at his speech in Iowa with an authority that is hard to match.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/07/joe-biden-reminded-all-us-what-presidential-president-would-sound-like/

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