Sally Albright on the lessons from the UK election this week:

[George II]

Link to tweet

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1. If that were the case, then nobody would elect a socialist.

The UK has done it multiple times. As do many other countries.


Edit: a socialist beat Winston Churchill in 1945 in a landslide.

[Renew Deal]

2. This is why Trump has said nice things about one of our candidates

[Tiggeroshii]

3. The first Labour majority government was won by a socialist.

After defeating Winston Churchill.

The tweet is utterly false.

[NYMinute]

7. War fatigue ... different times nt

[Renew Deal]

10. What does that have to do with Trump saying nice things about one of our candidates?

[Cha]

4. It seems a lot of people are saying this.. I

didn't need Corbyn's gigantic loss to come to this conclusion.

Thanks for Sally Albright, George

[PhoenixDem]

5. A very astute statement indeed n/t

[Tiggeroshii]

6. But completely false.

Winston Chirchill was defeated by a socialist in 1945, giving labour their first majority government.

[NYMinute]

9. Stop peddling that false narrative

Attlee was not a socialist.

Attlee led Labour to a landslide victory at the 1945 general election,[note 2] forming the first Labour majority government. His government's Keynesian approach to economic management aimed to maintain full employment, a mixed economy and a greatly enlarged system of social services provided by the state. To this end, it undertook the nationalisation of public utilities and major industries, and implemented wide-ranging social reforms, including the passing of the National Insurance Act 1946 and National Assistance Act

So he was more like Obama. Nowhere did he talk about seizing the banks, utilities and other corporations lie Corbyn (and BS) do.

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11. Did you even read the whole article?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=381643

He was a socialist since before 1908.

[NYMinute]

12. Please tell me

How many years between 1908 and 1945?

I wore diapers in the 60's ... doesn't mean I am still wearing them.

right? RIGHT?

[Tiggeroshii]

13. Uhh.. it was the 1930s that he was arguing to keep socialist principles in the party

In 1937, Attlee wrote a book entitled The Labour Party in Perspective that sold fairly well in which he set out some of his views. He argued that there was no point in Labour compromising on its socialist principles in the belief that this would achieve electoral success:[53]

[NYMinute]

19. Keep beating that dead horse

Attlee neither ran as a socialist nor did he serve as one.

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24. He declared the party a socialist party

As stated many times here already. You know why? Cause he was a socialist. The manifesto for 1945 that he ran on also declared the party a socialist party. So yes, he ran as a socialist.

[George II]

20. Atlee was born in 1883, he was in his 20s in 1908.

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21. How old was he in 1945

When the Labour manifesto was written declaring it a socialist party?

[NYMinute]

8. Even a buffoon's corpse could win in a landslide

The buffoon doesn't need to be alive, sane or conscious.

[Tiggeroshii]

14. Unless of course it wasnt a buffoon. If they ran against Winston Churchill, then

the socialist would win in a landslide! Because that's what happened with Clement Attlee, the socialist PM who lead labour to its first majority government...

[OnDoutside]

15. Ah yes, 1945. Lol.

[Tiggeroshii]

16. Socialist beats WINSTON frickin CHURCHILL

In landslide. But a leftist can never win even against a buffoon.

[OnDoutside]

17. 1945, in a war weary Britain. A better comparison is what Labour had

to do in 1997, to gain power after 18 years of Tory rule. Compare Michael Foot to Corbyn

[George II]

22. 73 years ago. And then Churchill became Prime Minister a few years later.

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23. 2017 Labour had biggest swing in seats toward them since 1945.

Ran by Jeremy Corbyn. If you wanted a more recent example

Again the fact this is happening at all, let alone with some frequency makes the "leftists categorically cannot win" narrative absolute malarkey.

[NYMinute]

18. False narrative as stated hereinabove nt

[Tiggeroshii]

25. So running as leader of a socialist party is not running as a socialist?

[Eric J in MN]

26. Donald Trump has been a candidate in

...exactly one general election, and he defeated a centrist.

[George II]

27. First, Hillary Clinton isn't a "centrist". And second, trump didn't defeat her, Vladimir Putin did.

You can continue to bash Hillary Clinton as much as you want, but even today she would probably make a better candidate than any running in 2019/2020.