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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:09 PM Dec 2019

I finally figured out why I didn't leap on the Harris bandwagon.

Maybe this accounts for others, too.

I was super impressed with her quick, District Attorney type, ability to respond to things. She was so clear. This appeals to me a lot, but, I've learned over time, not to everyone. What she lacked was that next step beyond sterling district attorney, that "je ne sais quoi pas" that candidates have that grabs the imagination. I think Sanders and Warren and Buttigieg have it. I don't think Biden does. He's leading for other reasons. Klobuchar doesn't either, but she may be the last one left standing, simply because she's so vanilla. (In a good way.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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spicysista

(1,663 posts)
1. Wow, my experience is the complete and total opposite...
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:18 PM
Dec 2019

With the exception of Sen.Warren, I found the other two folks to be very boring. Harris, Booker, Castro, and even Mrs. Williamson (and others, too) are loads more interesting than Buttigieg and Sanders, to me. Sen. Biden is a warm person and has been a democratic fixture for such a long time that he just feels like family. Our personal experiences and interactions shape how we see the world and receive people. It's truly in the eye of the beholder.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,680 posts)
2. She grabbed my attention.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:18 PM
Dec 2019

Harris has charisma, intellect, charm, experience and is tough as nails. Seems a perfect candidate for President... imo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. I never saw a bandwagon for her. Just supporters.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:19 PM
Dec 2019

But I get your criticism of her... you're saying she doesn't have the indefinable qualities you're unable to define, and predicate your lack of support for her on that unknown.

Sounds rational.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
4. She lacks "je ne sais quoi pas" ... but so does Biden, the frontrunner and
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:21 PM
Dec 2019

Klobuchar doesn't have it either, but she could be the last one standing anyway?

Sounds like your "je ne sais quoi pas" doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(50,990 posts)
5. Forgive me, LAS, I love you, I do, but Democrats demanding "je ne sais quoi pas" is part of what
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:39 PM
Dec 2019

got us trump. How many times did we hear people saying they weren't "excited" to vote for Clinton, or they weren't "inspired" by her. Today, I'd like to throttle every last one of them.

We ought to know better by now. It's a dumbass criterion. Please, oh please, let us be more hardheaded than that this time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
9. Yes - "She was just missing something but I can't put my finger on what it is" is very close to
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:57 PM
Dec 2019

"There's just something about her I don't like."

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Happy Hoosier

(7,372 posts)
6. I think that's very subjective.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:40 PM
Dec 2019

Both Warren and Buttigieg have that kind of charisma to me, but I admit to being mystified by Sanders' appeal. He leaves me completely cold.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
8. Very true. It is entirely subjective. nt
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:52 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Mike Nelson

(9,961 posts)
7. I think "je ne sais quoi pas"
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:41 PM
Dec 2019

... is a good name for whatever it is... I consider Harris an early favorite. I still think she's very impressive... but there was no going to the next level, after she got her shot. Yes, Sanders, Warren and Buttigieg bask in that "Presidential Candidate" glow. Klobuchar might, but she's never really stepped into that spotlight. I think, if Klobuchar gets into the "front-runner" spotlight, she may... we haven't seen it, yet...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,835 posts)
10. Harris is an elected senator.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 04:48 PM
Dec 2019

She had some charisma for that.

I think most voters are looking beyond social charisma.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
11. "She struggles to carry a message beyond the initial script."
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:00 PM
Dec 2019

That was an OTR assessment in the Times from her advisors just before the campaign was shut down, and it jumped out at me.

She had plenty of intangibles; ie charisma and passion. But the policy depth was lacking, severely. We have some heavyweights on that stage and she didn't measure up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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