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Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 06:58 PM Dec 2019

Calling Him Only 2020 Candidate Whose Plan 'Can Save Our Planet,'



US Youth Climate Strike Leaders Endorse Bernie Sanders for President

As Sen. Bernie Sanders stood with activists striking for climate in Iowa on Friday morning, the act of solidarity was repaid in kind later in the day as key leaders of the youth-led movement in the U.S. officially endorsed the Vermont senator's 2020 presidential bid.

As youth members of the Sunrise Movement targeted Democrats who have refused to endorse the Green New Deal with sit-ins nationwide on Friday, Sanders joined climate strikers near the Capitol Building in Des Moines to bolster their demand for bold action on the crisis that is impacting people around the world, including rural regions in the United States.

"You're seeing planting seasons decline, and harvests decline, because farmers cannot grow crops when their fields are underwater or when they have drought," Sanders told the crowd of young people and allies.

"We're looking not only in Iowa, not only in the Midwest, not only in America—we're looking all over the world about a serious crisis in food production," Sanders said. "That's the bad news. But here is the good news. If we have the courage to take on the fossil fuel industry and other special interests, if we have the courage to pass a Green New Deal, we can create up to 20 million good-paying jobs transforming our energy system."

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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/06/calling-him-only-2020-candidate-whose-plan-can-save-our-planet-us-youth-climate



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sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
6. Your link goes to a locked post/thread on Reddit.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:15 PM
Dec 2019


Is this suppose to explain something? I don't do reddit so know nothing about them, or how they work.
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booley

(3,855 posts)
2. The other plans would work
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:07 PM
Dec 2019

... if this was still the 1970s

The fact is we waited too long. There were many years of knowing this was going to occur and doing nothing.

Maybe we should listen to the people who will have to live with the consequences of that inaction.

Just saying

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Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
5. I sincerely believe that number will drastically increase,
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:14 PM
Dec 2019

whether it's fast enough it to save the Earth's GDP; will be the estimated at 80.68 trillion dollars question and if we don't succeed, Wall Street is going to truly be pissed....not to mention losing life as we know it will be a major bummer.

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
4. K n R ! Thanks for posting!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:14 PM
Dec 2019

Uncle Joe!

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msongs

(67,417 posts)
7. "I alone can fix it". hmmm nt
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:28 PM
Dec 2019
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Uncle Joe

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8. No you can't, nor can any other single person,
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:34 PM
Dec 2019

that's what "Not Me, Us" means.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Does he know more than the generals, too?
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:46 PM
Dec 2019
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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
10. Your source "Common Dreams
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:09 PM
Dec 2019

LEFT BIAS

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These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/common-dreams/

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
14. I'm shocked that posting left wing sources is not acceptable to you.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:43 PM
Dec 2019
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left-of-center2012

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16. Left of center isn't far left
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:51 PM
Dec 2019
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redqueen

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17. How about addressing the argument instead of the source?
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 08:12 PM
Dec 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. "Saving our planet" is just an overwrought phrase.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:58 PM
Dec 2019

And it does more harm than good.

We are actually trying to save our own asses and that of a few other living things. The planet will survive our stupidity and it has around 4 billion years to correct any thing that we have done. So if plastic takes 150 years to completely degrade, guess what, after we are dead, the planet has plenty of time to take care of the matter, as it will with acid rain removing the CO2 and CO that we put in the atmosphere to kill ourselves. All it takes is for us to kill ourselves, which we are on the way to doing.

"Saving the planet" makes us look like mushy tree-Huggers, we need to get into the right's faces and explain that we are working to save their asses as well as our own.

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Uncle Joe

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12. It's a strange feeling,
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:25 PM
Dec 2019

I tend to agree with you in regards to the logical marketing aspect but I find myself emotionally reluctant to do so.

The main thrust of your post is spot-on.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. I just think that we are too soft with the deniers.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:41 PM
Dec 2019

We should've showing graphic video of how their beloved grandchildren (remember how they always bring them up to defend the idiocy?) will choke to death on the very air that they will be trying to breath. Or show the the graphic skin lesions that will cover their beloved grandchildren's bodies. When we talk about saving the planet, they call us soft and laugh at us.

I believe there will be a couple, maybe more, technical solutions that will reverse or dramatically abate the problem of climate change. Unfortunately that will allow the deniers to claim that they were right and we were wrong, that is their level of understanding science (maybe the truly educated ones understand and are chosing to stuff their pockets).

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redqueen

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15. "technical solutions that will reverse or dramatically abate the problem of climate change"
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:46 PM
Dec 2019

What is this based on?

There are significant feedback loops which have already caused forecasts and models to predict vastly less severe outcomes. Not sure what tech is supposed to counter that

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Blue_true

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18. I am a technologist. I know of several efforts to find a full duty cycle
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 08:23 PM
Dec 2019

clean energy technology, but the technical hurdles are daunting. But even beyond technology, certain plants absorb large amounts of COx compounds and volatile organic compounds on a 24 hour cycle, 7 days a week. Road construction engineers need to start integrating the planting of such plants into road construction plans, all that is done now is planning for spreading of hydro-seed after the road construction is done.

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myohmy2

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19. "...Sen. Bernie Sanders stood with activists striking for climate..."
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 08:34 PM
Dec 2019

...who else was standing there with activists striking for climate change?

...Biden?

...Warren?

...Buttigieg?

...THE most pressing issue of our time, our SURVIVAL at stake,

"We're looking not only in Iowa, not only in the Midwest, not only in America—we're looking all over the world about a serious crisis in food production..."

but,

"... if we have the courage to pass a Green New Deal, we can create up to 20 million good-paying jobs transforming our energy system."

...Bernie's there in spades delivering...

...today Iowa, tomorrow the White House...

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