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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:46 AM Dec 2019

People Who Want to Ban Fracking Immediately, Says Joe Biden, 'Oughta Vote for Someone Else'

[link:https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/05/people-who-want-ban-fracking-immediately-says-joe-biden-oughta-vote-someone-else?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2I3zalEONiGTuYTUM_Ai9JpeG41Gc2Rah0vh7RF8oAN8prpdxRh60RogQ|

"Might I recommend Bernie Sanders: the climate candidate," responds Vermont senator's press secretary.

by Eoin Higgins, staff writer

If you want a candidate committed to banning fracking in the United States immediately, find another candidate than Joe Biden.

That's the advice of Biden himself, given to an activist from the Sunrise Movement in a video posted online Thursday after the two discussed the former vice president's adviser Heather Zichal and Biden's plans for the future of fracking.

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In the video of the interaction posted on Twitter by Sunrise Thursday afternoon, Biden appears confused about Zichal's connections to the natural gas industry, protesting that the adviser "worked for us in the administration."

"No, no, I know," the Sunrise activist patiently explains as Biden grabs him by the shoulders. "But she also worked—"

"If you look at my record," Biden begins, "look at my record. Just look at my record."

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more at link

Please tell me the video is not true that Joe said it. And it's just a horrible dream video.

Please!

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People Who Want to Ban Fracking Immediately, Says Joe Biden, 'Oughta Vote for Someone Else' (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 OP
Boy, Joe really likes telling people they should vote for other candidates. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #1
Yep. By the end of the primary it might be everyone! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #2
Maybe the Biden campaign gave up on their original strategy? HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #3
I can't forget that one either!!! Please tell me this is just a Scrooge-like dream!!!! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #4
LOL... so true!! Joe's strategy is only helping Bernie!! Keep it up!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #27
Where are the Biden supporters? Please comment ASAP! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #5
Joe Biden is your horrible dream? With the reality we have now in the WH you are afraid of Joe? MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #6
Thank you!! Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #7
You horrible dream is simply throwing more banalities at the wall in hope it sticks. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #9
Hey you kids! Turn down that Victrola! Baclava Dec 2019 #10
LOL! Victrolas actually exist and are selling really well. Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #12
Nice! I had no idea, thx, lol n/t Baclava Dec 2019 #13
You wouldn't believe the large variety of turntables and record players that Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #14
what was bidens record on the halaburton exemption that allows frackers to poison our groundwater SterlingPound Dec 2019 #8
Excellent question!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #28
Don't worry, the primary is no where near over and many will do just that. BeckyDem Dec 2019 #11
"Grabbed him by the shoulders?" cwydro Dec 2019 #15
I think Biden misunderstood the question. The question wasn't on his record and climate change Autumn Dec 2019 #16
I don't remember him being this short-tempered in the past. cwydro Dec 2019 #18
I don't either. Autumn Dec 2019 #19
Maybe the... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #20
Neither do I... prefer the old, even-tempered Joe. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #29
Between goofy tough-guy challenges to push-ups... SMC22307 Dec 2019 #17
well how do you like that... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #21
Joe Biden is a total bad-ass. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #22
That vid did the opposite of make me want to vote for him. JudyM Dec 2019 #23
Biden's numbers will soar. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #24
Certainly not based on this vid. JudyM Dec 2019 #25
For a lot of reasons, including the video. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #26
Yep. You go, Joe. Liking your fighting spirit. Those who don't like you or your policies can and emmaverybo Dec 2019 #30
Yup... and it's Bernie & Elizabeth!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #31
Wow you've almost been here a month! nt redqueen Dec 2019 #32
Agreed wiley Dec 2019 #34
This is getting downright bizarre. nt redqueen Dec 2019 #33
Said the all white hippie staff of Common Dreams wiley Dec 2019 #35
Really? So he's okay with fracking? PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2019 #36
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
1. Boy, Joe really likes telling people they should vote for other candidates.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:50 AM
Dec 2019

This is at least the third time it's happened...

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
2. Yep. By the end of the primary it might be everyone!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:54 AM
Dec 2019

We Dems need to change minds. Not lecture and berate them enough to make them not want to show up to vote.

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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
3. Maybe the Biden campaign gave up on their original strategy?
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:59 AM
Dec 2019

Who can forget this gem?

Jill Biden: 'Swallow a little bit' and vote for Joe

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/politics/jill-biden-joe-biden-beat-donald-trump/index.html

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
4. I can't forget that one either!!! Please tell me this is just a Scrooge-like dream!!!!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:03 AM
Dec 2019

What's next? Joe asking someone if we do not have poor houses?

Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
27. LOL... so true!! Joe's strategy is only helping Bernie!! Keep it up!!
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:54 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
5. Where are the Biden supporters? Please comment ASAP!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:05 AM
Dec 2019

And wake me up from this horrible dream!!!!!

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MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
6. Joe Biden is your horrible dream? With the reality we have now in the WH you are afraid of Joe?
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:14 AM
Dec 2019

Im not a “Biden” supporter per se, unless he is our nominee. If he is, sign me up for a huge slice of that “horrible dream”.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. You horrible dream is simply throwing more banalities at the wall in hope it sticks.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 09:59 AM
Dec 2019

You may choose to further engage that dream and reflect poorly upon your candidate, or simply take the high road as your candidate does.

Your choice, of course.




Consistency.

Hobgoblins.

Little minds.

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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
10. Hey you kids! Turn down that Victrola!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:01 AM
Dec 2019

LOL

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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
13. Nice! I had no idea, thx, lol n/t
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:35 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
14. You wouldn't believe the large variety of turntables and record players that
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:53 PM
Dec 2019

are available. I'm looking to purchase one. I might just get a turntable for my receiver AND a record player because they're retro, cute and cheap.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

SterlingPound

(428 posts)
8. what was bidens record on the halaburton exemption that allows frackers to poison our groundwater
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:41 AM
Dec 2019

with zero repercussions

and would biden at least repeal it?

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
28. Excellent question!!
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:55 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
11. Don't worry, the primary is no where near over and many will do just that.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:05 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
15. "Grabbed him by the shoulders?"
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:55 PM
Dec 2019

Yikes.

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Autumn

(45,107 posts)
16. I think Biden misunderstood the question. The question wasn't on his record and climate change
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 08:29 PM
Dec 2019

views. The question was about his climate policy adviser's ties to Cheniere Energy. It was a very polite and fair question to ask. The guy wasn't rude. Natural gas extraction contributes significantly to the air pollution that is hastening climate change and fracking can and has polluted groundwater.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. I don't remember him being this short-tempered in the past.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 08:41 PM
Dec 2019
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Autumn

(45,107 posts)
19. I don't either.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 08:43 PM
Dec 2019
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JoeOtterbein

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20. Maybe the...
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 08:52 PM
Dec 2019

..8 days on the road in Iowa?

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
29. Neither do I... prefer the old, even-tempered Joe.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:57 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
17. Between goofy tough-guy challenges to push-ups...
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 08:37 PM
Dec 2019

to telling people to vote for others, it's becoming increasingly difficult to get enthused about Biden. But if he's on the ticket, I'll color in that little circle for him...

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myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
21. well how do you like that...
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 08:54 PM
Dec 2019

...Joe's recommending Bernie?

...it's strange world we live in...

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
22. Joe Biden is a total bad-ass.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 09:04 PM
Dec 2019

Americans love this.

"Rabid Joe" is the guy to send against Trump. It's more and more clear every day.
He'll beat Trump like a drum.

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JudyM

(29,251 posts)
23. That vid did the opposite of make me want to vote for him.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:30 AM
Dec 2019

There was no “here’s how we’re going to get there,” just educating the young man (with entirely too much not so subtle power touching) that we can’t do it. Makes me think he feels the situation isn’t urgent enough to act in a big way against all causes of climate change. This is really chilling.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
24. Biden's numbers will soar.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:38 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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JudyM

(29,251 posts)
25. Certainly not based on this vid.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:39 AM
Dec 2019
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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
26. For a lot of reasons, including the video.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:41 AM
Dec 2019

Americans want someone who can beat Trump like a drum.

That choice is clear.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
30. Yep. You go, Joe. Liking your fighting spirit. Those who don't like you or your policies can and
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 02:00 AM
Dec 2019

will vote for someone else. But the fact is, plenty of us do. And they do all over America, where you will beat Trump.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
31. Yup... and it's Bernie & Elizabeth!!
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 02:01 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
32. Wow you've almost been here a month! nt
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 02:49 AM
Dec 2019
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wiley

(2,921 posts)
34. Agreed
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 03:24 AM
Dec 2019

The more you hear single issue blinded supporters of the extreme left wail about minor details, the better I feel about the guy. There is absolutely no way that Democrats will win anything by demanding immediate anything. It's like the insistence on M4A. No one advocating for that will even win the Democratic nomination, let alone POTUS. Catharsis politics based on sex or race or vengence for pst wrongs will never work.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
33. This is getting downright bizarre. nt
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 02:57 AM
Dec 2019
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wiley

(2,921 posts)
35. Said the all white hippie staff of Common Dreams
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 03:31 AM
Dec 2019

The people that are asking these questions are not going to vote for Biden anyway. I'm glad he's not wasting his time. He's not going to ban fracking immediately. Get it? Or would you prefer he lie? He's right. Vote for someone else if that is al that matters to you. Thanks for another Bernie supporter trolling Democratic candidates.

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PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
36. Really? So he's okay with fracking?
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 04:24 AM
Dec 2019

I'm not. And I'm not okay with any candidate who is.

Why in the fuck is he even running?

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