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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:07 PM Dec 2019

Listen up DU Democrats.. Guilani is in Ukraine at this very moment still trying to

get someone to smear Biden to deflect from what Trump is going to be tried for in the Senate. '

We have some idiot retired farmer feeding off of the the far right radio and TV segments accusing Biden of selling influence to Obama'' or being fed to go there

I for the life of me, cannot even begin to understand why everyone does not have their hair on fire about this. This is our blasted Democracy being torn apart bit by bit.. and bashing the VP for standing up for President Obama and his son against these lies makes no sense on any level



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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Listen up DU Democrats.. Guilani is in Ukraine at this very moment still trying to (Original Post) Peacetrain Dec 2019 OP
Not every criticism leveled at a candidate is "bashing". redqueen Dec 2019 #1
He didn't "resort to age-ism". The guy brought up Biden's age first. phleshdef Dec 2019 #2
How did he smear Biden's son? I really am not getting this. redqueen Dec 2019 #3
He said that Biden sent his son over to the Ukraine to sell access to the Obama presidency. phleshdef Dec 2019 #7
Well thanks for the note of confidence but apparently I am. redqueen Dec 2019 #11
That conspiracy doesn't work if Hunter isn't in on it. phleshdef Dec 2019 #14
I disagree. redqueen Dec 2019 #15
No one taking an honest, intelligent look at this guy thinks he wasn't implicating Hunter. phleshdef Dec 2019 #16
Thank you! It's so Cha Dec 2019 #17
Biden didn't "get his son a job." dawg day Dec 2019 #10
FFS all I said was that was what the guy said he heard on TV! redqueen Dec 2019 #12
Thanks for your input on how Biden Supporters should Cha Dec 2019 #4
We're not "worked up" - we are pleased with Joe's response. Pitch perfect. A few are upset that Joe Skya Rhen Dec 2019 #5
The first responses were like that yes. redqueen Dec 2019 #8
Yes.. Biden supporters are calling out Merle Gorman Cha Dec 2019 #18
This is why Trump MUST be impeached-- dawg day Dec 2019 #6
I hope to God there are enough republican senators willing to follow the law. redqueen Dec 2019 #9
Rudy G is under investigations . . . Iliyah Dec 2019 #13
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
1. Not every criticism leveled at a candidate is "bashing".
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:11 PM
Dec 2019

People disagree about the tactic of calling a private citizen names and resorting to ageism.

And if Biden's supporters really believe he is the inevitable candidate and the one who will beat Trump like a drum then I really don't get why such a little incident is causing such a big reaction.

He got in an argument with a guy. Big whoop. He didn't deck him so I think it's honestly nothing to get too worked up about.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
2. He didn't "resort to age-ism". The guy brought up Biden's age first.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:15 PM
Dec 2019

And fuck that "private citizen" argument. When a so called "private citizen" decides to smear your family to you face, you deserve to be verbally pummeled for it.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
3. How did he smear Biden's son? I really am not getting this.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:17 PM
Dec 2019

I keep asking and no one is explaining.

He said that he heard on TV that Biden got his son a job.

How is that smearing his son?

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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
7. He said that Biden sent his son over to the Ukraine to sell access to the Obama presidency.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:20 PM
Dec 2019

You aren't a dense person. You know damn well what that implies. It implies that Biden and his son are crooked.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
11. Well thanks for the note of confidence but apparently I am.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:23 PM
Dec 2019

I missed the part where Biden's son was selling access.

I honestly thought the insinuation was that by giving Biden's son a job, BIDEN was the one selling access, to the people who hired him.

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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
14. That conspiracy doesn't work if Hunter isn't in on it.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:51 PM
Dec 2019

Jesus Christ.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
15. I disagree.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:53 PM
Dec 2019

: shrug:

All Hunter is doing in that scenario is taking advantage of his dad's political contacts. He wouldn't necessarily know anything about whether or not Biden may have helped secure the job for him in return for anything.

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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
16. No one taking an honest, intelligent look at this guy thinks he wasn't implicating Hunter.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:14 AM
Dec 2019

You're just wrong or being stubbornly trollish.

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Cha

(297,299 posts)
17. Thank you! It's so
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:38 AM
Dec 2019

damn obvious.

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dawg day

(7,947 posts)
10. Biden didn't "get his son a job."
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:21 PM
Dec 2019

It would be really a good idea for Democratic candidates to stand united against Trump's constant attempts to create dirt about the leading candidate.

After all, whoever is in the lead in the future can expect the very same calumny from Trump... unless he is stopped or it has no effect.

No Democrat should try to take advantage of this or pass on GOP talking points or pretend that was an ingenuous question.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
12. FFS all I said was that was what the guy said he heard on TV!
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:26 PM
Dec 2019

I'm not discussing the guys motives at all - my only issue is how this reflects on Biden.

If his supporters agree with it that's fine and dandy. I don't. Life goes on. Geez.

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Cha

(297,299 posts)
4. Thanks for your input on how Biden Supporters should
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:18 PM
Dec 2019

"act".

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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
5. We're not "worked up" - we are pleased with Joe's response. Pitch perfect. A few are upset that Joe
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:18 PM
Dec 2019

is getting tons of support - they can't stand that he is continuing to dominate. They need to get used to it.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
8. The first responses were like that yes.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:20 PM
Dec 2019

Somewhere along the line it changed and became about bashing the guy who questioned Biden about RW talking points.

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Cha

(297,299 posts)
18. Yes.. Biden supporters are calling out Merle Gorman
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 03:17 AM
Dec 2019

while others are trying to protect the liar.




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dawg day

(7,947 posts)
6. This is why Trump MUST be impeached--
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:18 PM
Dec 2019

Because even now, when he's been found out, when he's being impeached, HE IS STILL COMMITTING CRIMES.

Nothing will stop him. Nothing. Jail, maybe.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
9. I hope to God there are enough republican senators willing to follow the law.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:21 PM
Dec 2019

I'm not at all confident that is the case.

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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
13. Rudy G is under investigations . . .
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:29 PM
Dec 2019

so why is he in the Ukraine for a documentary?

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