Merle Gorman, the 83-yr-old Iowan who confronted Biden, now says Joe has a wet noodle for a backbone

[highplainsdem]

More info on him. This is from the NY Post. He was apparently quite happy to brag to them about how he felt he was educating the other voters at that event.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/05/man-who-clashed-with-biden-at-iowa-campaign-event-glad-it-happened/

The Iowa man who challenged Joe Biden during a campaign event on Thursday told The Post he had no regrets about the heated exchange.

“I’m positive 90% of the people there didn’t know about his son working on the board in Ukraine. I wanted it brought out there,” said 83-year-old Merle Gorman, referring to Biden’s son Hunter’s job at a Ukrainian gas company.

“If it educated them a little bit, so be it,” Gorman said. “I’m glad it happened.”

-snip-

Gorman said: “The exchange speaks for itself. He didn’t have the guts to explain the situation, and that’s what I wanted.”

“He got pissed off and stomped around … he wasn’t happy at all,” Gorman continued. “He started mumbling, saying it wasn’t true.”

“After today, he told me what he’s made out of … he’s got a wet noodle for a backbone.”

Gorman, who said he is a Marine Corps veteran and retired farmer, went to the event because it was taking place a couple of blocks from his home, and was spurred to ask about Hunter’s Ukraine dealings after hearing the other questions from the crowd.

“All the others were softballs questions, they might as well have been asking him what color the chandelier was in the vice president’s office,” Gorman said.

-snip-

“I told him, ‘You’re damn near as old as I am’ and I know for a fact my mental faculties have slipped since I hit the 70s,” Gorman said.

-snip-

I'd say it's obvious that Gorman's mental faculties have slipped, and I have doubts about how great they were to start with, if he was dumb enough to think other voters going to a campaign event for Biden wouldn't have heard about the Ukraine smears.

Gorman's a self-righteous, stupid jerk.

And NOT a Democrat.

He told the Post he voted for Obama.

I don't believe it.

[Cha]

1. And, some are trying to protect him bc

it's more important to attack VP Biden.

Thanks hpd!

[democratisphere]

2. Gorman is a dumb, ignorant drumpflican that couldn't think his way out of a wet paper bag.

Conspiracy theories course through his veins.

[iluvtennis]

9. + 1 nt

[redqueen]

3. Wow.

So many vicous insults for this guy.

I get not agreeing with him or even being suspicious of his motives but seriously ... Didn't we used to try to be better than this?

[Peacetrain]

5. Bull hockey.. did you listen to this guy.. he was from the far reaches of the

right wing nut lands... Vicious insults are what he stood up and said to Biden about President Obama and Bidens son.. I am so proud of VP Biden.. He stood up for our own..

[redqueen]

8. Did he call Biden names? Did he use schoolyard insults?

Maybe I'm just getting old.

[Peacetrain]

11. Yes he did..

"We all know Trump has been messing around in the Ukraine over there, holding their foreign aid, so they'll say they're having an investigation, we know all of that. He has no backbone. But you on the other hand, sent your son over there, to get a job and work for a gas company, that he had no experience with gas, nothing. In order to get access for the president. You're selling access to the president just like he is."

You can listen to it here..

https://ktiv.com/2019/12/05/biden-confronts-iowa-voter-during-exchange-over-ukraine-controversy/

[redqueen]

12. I don't know if I'm hard of hearing or what but I can't hardly make out what he's saying.

Didn't see any name calling there.

Thanks for the transcript, will read the rest.

Still not sure where he "attacked" Biden's son.

Edit: yeah ok I read it. Looks like the only name calling was from Biden. This is really depressing.

[highplainsdem]

17. Oh, good grief. Gorman accuses Biden to his face of sending his son to the Ukraine and selling

access to President Obama, and you're all upset about Biden pointing out, very correctly, that Gorman's a damn liar? You find Biden calling him a liar "really depressing"?

I'm amazed to see anyone say that in a Democratic forum.

[redqueen]

21. I find resorting to name-calling depressing yes - because the guy is a voter

not a politician, not a pundit, but just a guy.

Whatever we think of him, that's the optics.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

29. Biden called him a "liar," because he was lying.

That's not name calling, that's calling it what it is. Gorman also said he'd seen this 'all over MSNBC.' Bullshit. I watch MSNBC and I have yet to hear anyone say that.

He wanted a provocation and he got it. It just didn't turn out the way he expected.

Further, calling Joe Biden "spineless," WAS name-calling, not to mention derogatory and inaccurate.

[redqueen]

31. Yeah, I hadn't heard the spineless part.

But seriously, think of the optics. Guy didn't sound hostile as he asked Biden about the RW talking points. So the response seems pretty unwarranted.

I just now saw where the guy went on interviews and said Biden was senile, so he really doesn't deserve any of the attention he's getting. He's a troll.

[cwydro]

55. It seems to be a pattern too.

Hasn’t he done this at least twice before?

[phleshdef]

22. What he said was way worse than name calling. Smearing someone's family is as vile as it gets.

But oh lets get the god damn vapors over "name calling".

[redqueen]

24. How did he smear his family?

[phleshdef]

26. Already responded to you on this in another thread.

You can continue to pretend to be clueless about what was said, the majority of us know better.

[BannonsLiver]

57. I believe the word "obtuse" is the best descriptor.

[napi21]

23. I diddn't hear the guy plainly either, but I sure heard Joe when he said "You accused ME of

intervening to get my son a job, and that's a lie!" HE didn't have to call him names, he accused him of influence peddling amd Joe had every right to tell him NO WAY!

[redqueen]

25. I agree Joe has the right to set the record straight.

I don't think he did a good job of it at all

[Cha]

42. Yeah well many other members think Joe Biden did

do a great job.. and they're not all Biden supporters, either.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. It sure is... but not surprising. If Joe is smart, he'll issue an apology tomorrow.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Demsrule86]

35. He is smart and that is why he won't issue an apology to a magat liar...Good for Joe...someone

attacked my kid, they would be sorry.

[highplainsdem]

13. Maybe you need to reread the article and look at that video again.

[redstateblues]

27. You obviously didn't see or hear what he said

[redqueen]

28. I didn't get the insinuation that others did, no.

I thought the guy was saying that BIDEN was selling influence, not his son

[Cha]

44. Me on Pelosi/Biden today: Dems want a fighter to take on Trump.

Link to tweet

[True Blue American]

32. No, but the Farmer

Backed down in a hurry when Joe called him a damn liar. Said he heard it on MSNBC. Joe said, no you didn’t. Then later he said he would vote for Joe, certainly not Trump. Now,he is lying again.

[highplainsdem]

6. Have you watched any of the video of him smirking about all the media attention he got for himself?

He went there to disrupt the event and grab headlines. He claims he was educating the others there, which indicates he's either very stupid, not knowing how much media coverage the Ukraine story already got, or he's simply a lying disrupter trying to upset Biden and to get more media coverage of a particularly nasty spin on the Ukraine story.

Either way, he doesn't deserve any respect from any Democrat.

[redqueen]

10. No, it's a tempest in a teapot.

I don't know why Biden's supporters are giving the story this much attention.

And I certainly don't understand how calling the guy names makes any sense.

[highplainsdem]

14. You won't watch the video to see what Gorman said and how he behaved, but you want to slam

Biden supporters for responding to it?

[redqueen]

16. I watched the video of him at the event. Not his interviews. nt.

[highplainsdem]

19. You should watch the interviews as well to understand what Gorman was up to. Though that

really was clear enough from what he said during the event.

[kacekwl]

4. You can tell by the way his comments were stated

that he is a Fox watching, Rush listening trump loving sap.

[highplainsdem]

18. Exactly.

[True Blue American]

33. 100%

[nevergiveup]

7. If he voted for Obama

he also voted for Biden. The chances of this are zero.

[highplainsdem]

15. I agree. There's no chance he voted for Obama.

[dalton99a]

41. Excellent point

[MustLoveBeagles]

20. Just looking for his fifteen minutes

I'll just leave this here

And if this dude's a Warren supporter, I'll eat my hat.

[Polly Hennessey]

30. Don't believe he voted for President Obama.

Do believe he voted for tRump. He is/has been/and will always be a wacko Republican.

[Schmice3]

36. This year's Joe the Plumber. n/t

[LovingA2andMI]

37. Look we are strongly supporting Warren However.....

This idiot was straight up planted in place at this event. Anyone including Stevie Wonder can see that.

[Thekaspervote]

38. Hey mr RW plant... negative "education" as you call it doesn't change voters minds.STFU

[EveHammond13]

39. eat shit Merle

[dalton99a]

40. Merle Gorman is a damn liar

He probably listens to Rush Limbaugh every day

[Cha]

43. Folks, put simply, @JoeBiden is fired up and not gonna take the BS anymore.

Link to tweet

[Cha]

45. Me on Pelosi/Biden today: Dems want a fighter to take on Trump.

Link to tweet

[Cha]

46. Any assertion VP Biden said a word about the gentleman's appearance is making this something it is..

Not..

Link to tweet

To be clear: Any assertion VP Biden said a word about the gentleman's appearance is making this something it is not. In the latter part of the exchange, the VP began to say "Look, facts" then said "here's the deal." If you've been to a Biden event, you've heard this before.

Link to tweet

[R B Garr]

47. Goodness, I missed this part...they are changing Biden's

words again...? LOL at the desperation to undermine the frontrunner. Where have we seen this before?

Thanks for posting the tweets on this, Cha!

[Cha]

48. I listened to it a few times and it just doesn't make sense that Biden would say ..

".. Look fat.." but anyone who is against Biden insists he did.

I would like to have a better audio than what I heard it on.

Thank you, RB!

[R B Garr]

50. Thank you Cha. Look at the desperation to change

his words. That seems to be the thing now. When they can’t get any traction with the “furious fight” drama, more drama is drummed up by changing his words. It’s so ridiculous.

I saw the threads in a restaurant, and we waited until going out to the car to actually listen, and it was nothing like the drama threads here. Shameful, but predictable.

[DeterDeter]

56. I noticed that too

It started with "Joe lost his temper" to "Joe called him fat, lazy, and stupid" (seriously, this is the charge that even people like Seth Abramson are going with). I expect the distortion from Trumpers, but it's very disheartening to see Democrats who just don't prefer Biden in the first place to jump on this bandwagon. It's fine to not like Biden's style in how he dealt with this, but he's used the pushups/IQ test quip in the past as well when people question his age. To act like he said "Look, fat" (????) just doesn't make sense. My BS meter went off when this person said that he "heard it on MSNBC". There is a large segment of Democrats who are ready for politicians to call a lie a lie.

[Cha]

49. PS! I asked Joe Biden if he agreed with Nancy Pelosi that with trump, "all roads lead to putin...

Link to tweet

[RandiFan1290]

51. Biden winning hearts and minds!

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[Cha]

53. Yeah, the fucking MAGAT didn't "win" anything.

[duforsure]

52. This guy went there for one reason

To again promote putins and trumps russian propaganda as the truth directly to Biden , then was called out for his lying. This guy can't hide claiming his ignorance for lying, he now has to own it, he is a liar. But he believes the serial liar trump, putins puppet,lol.

[Cha]

54. Exactly, dufosure.. but some are sticking up

for Merle Gorman 'cause Biden was "mean to him".

[LakeArenal]

58. " I know for a fact my mental faculties have slipped since I hit the 70s," Gorman said.

‘Nuff said’

[samir.g]

59. be a shame if he stopped getting his farm subsidies

maybe he can ask Putin for help.

[George II]

60. This is from RW Washington Examiner, but the video is genuine. Shows his attitude at that town hall:

Link to tweet

[oasis]

62. Gorman probably voted for George Wallace in the '60s, but never Obama.