Joe Biden to voter: You're a damn liar, man.

[Crowman2009]

I'm glad he's confronting these conspiracy theorists.

[JustAnotherGen]

1. I'm going to go with a supposed voter

That's a talking point from the Right Wing Echo Chamber.

[Cha]

19. "..alleged.."?

Gen!

[pnwmom]

29. The problem is that what Biden said was wrong. Biden's claim that "No one ever said" that

is just plain wrong.

LOTS of people, inside and outside the media, have made the claim. It's a false claim, and no one has ever PROVIDED ANY EVIDENCE for the claim. It has been thoroughly debunked.

But it's wrong for Biden to claim that "no one" has ever said it. I hope his people will help him prepare for a better response next time.

[JustAnotherGen]

43. Next time he should say

No one and no news source that doesn't lie on a regular basis has EVER said that.

[pnwmom]

49. That would be much more accurate. n/t

[Scurrilous]

46. No one refers to an absence of people and has no defined amount.

Biden used the term correctly.

[pnwmom]

48. The author of Clinton Cash says it, and he's not "no one." He's someone who sold

200,000 copies of Clinton Cash in its first year, and now he's been all over promoting these fake Hunter- Ukraine claims.

(And "no one" does have a defined amount: it means zero people.)

[mahina]

2. Sing it, Joe! Well done.

No way it would’ve called that guy fat he’s not a Trump.

[Baitball Blogger]

3. It's the only way to deal with them.

We won’t be a civil country again until we stop them from cheating and lying. It has got to cost them or they will continue to double down.

[NYMinute]

4. Go Joe!! nt

[Gothmog]

17. From Joe

Link to tweet

[Cha]

21. omg.. that's perfect!

Link to tweet

Thanks, Goth!

[treestar]

25. everybody knows how to handle it better on hindsight

Biden should have said this or done that, instead. Easy to do when you don't have to handle things off the cuff.

[pnwmom]

31. His team should prep him with a better response. It is obviously false

to say that "no one has ever said" that Biden got the job for his son. LOTS of people in the media have made that false claim, with zero evidence.

[treestar]

37. Hw can you prepare for every random

Thing that can be said? That is a petty distinction there.

[groundloop]

5. On the other hand Joe does need to be able to explain that his son did nothing wrong

This issue is going to be pushed hard by repubs, Joe needs to confront it head on and put it to rest once and for all. If he ends up being our nominee I certainly don't want these bullshit lies to have any air left in them by the time we get past the convention.

[question everything]

18. Or that his son is an adult and finds his own business opportunities

Not depending on daddy

[treestar]

24. No not letting Dotard do this

How is it that Dotard doesn't have to explain anything, but all he has to do is throw out a lie and his opponents are forced to defend themselves? Why do we enable the Dotard on this stuff? He's gotten away with it his whole life. No, make the Dotard explain his actions in lying about his opponents.

[SterlingPound]

28. But that is just It he didnt do anything wrong

it is legal AND THEY ALL DO IT

[OKNancy]

7. No, he didn't call him fat - he said "facts"

[OKNancy]

12. You are wrong

It's ridiculous to think he said.. "Look fat, here's the deal." He said,"Look, facts, here's the deal."

[Skittles]

20. we know who DOES lie

REPUBLICANS.....CONSTANTLY

[ritapria]

27. I've reviewed the tape

I believe Joe Said : Look Fat …" .then cut himself off ...No Big deal in any event ...Speaking of Joe ….Latest Reuters Ipsos poll : Joe 26% ...Bernie 19% .. Warren 13%..... Buttigieg 8% …..Bloomberg 5% …… This is the part of the Poll dealing with Democrats only...….

[George II]

30. What?????

[LanternWaste]

39. But of course you believe that... your narrative demands it of you.

[PatSeg]

15. That's the way I took it

Calling someone "fat" is not the sort of thing he would say even when he is angry. I think he started to say something else about facts and inserted, "here's the deal".

That guy was spouting right-wing Fox-like talking points. I think he was there as a disruptor.

[Polybius]

44. He did say "let's do push-ups together, let's run"

'm not saying he said "fat" but he implied appearance by bringing up exercise at the end of the video. He was on a roll until then (assuming he said "Look facts" ).

[Scurrilous]

47. He's said this before and it has nothing to do with appearance. The guy said he was 'too old.'

Biden jokingly says he'd challenge Trump to a push-up contest if his age is questioned

<snip>

"Former Vice President Joe Biden joked in an interview that aired Tuesday that he would challenge President Donald Trump to a push-up contest if the President attacked his age or mental health.

"I would say, 'Come on Donald, come on man. How many push-ups do you want to do here, pal?' Jokingly," Biden said in an interview with MSNBC. "You know, come on, run with me man."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/joe-biden-trump-push-up-contest/index.html

[Cha]

23. Get your FACTS Straight! Biden did NOT call him "fat"!

Got it?

[treestar]

26. Defending his son

I think most parents would sympathize. And the repetition of this crap must get annoying. He looked like he's not taking any shit, which is probably better than being patient. People liked Trump because he said what he thought. This can work for Biden too.

[PBC_Democrat]

8. Go Joe!!!

At this point, the only people believing that crap are the way, way, way out there folks that are unreachable with facts.

No need to worry about them, not enough to matter.

[pamdb]

10. Biden

I think I would have said "that's a damn lie" rather than "you're a damn liar" It makes it
less personal. And stressed that Hunter is a grown man and Joe had nothing to do with him
getting the job, although even Hunter said he probably wouldn't have gotten it without the Biden
name.

[maxsolomon]

11. Slander works. It doesn't even matter if Trump's extortion scheme failed.

It's already in the minds of the low info voters, and they'll never accept that it's bullshit.

[Prof.Higgins]

14. CNN host, after video cilip, says it's a legitimate question. Sheesh!

This CNN host must be studying Chuck Todd, who invariably reckons every single political event
is detrimental for the Democratic Party. Remember how quickly the Democratic Party winning a Blue Wave House of Representativeness election last year was morphed by the ilk of Chuck, CNN craven hosts and FauxNews into a "Massive Revolt Against Nancy Pelosi Resuming The Speakership" nonsense meme.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

33. The problem is that Joe's heated response only brought more attention to the issue.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Tipperary]

45. This. nt

[Gothmog]

16. From Symone Sanders

Link to tweet

[RandySF]

32. About Damn time, Joe.

[radius777]

34. This is exactly the correct response to these trolls,

you don't respond to them in good faith because they aren't coming in good faith.

you beat them down, and show strength, as any normal person would do if their family was attacked.

Dems have always had the 'Dukakis' problem of giving overly flat/academic answers to charged questions. Voters don't want that, they want to see their leaders respond like normal people. Bill Clinton and Obama both knew how to do this, and didn't take shit. "You oughtta be ashamed of yourself for jumpin on my wife" remember how Bill beat down Jerry Brown about the Hillary Whitewater stuff.

[Bettie]

35. Telling him that it is a lie: fine

challenging him to an IQ test? Weird.

[cwydro]

38. I found the push-up challenge even weirder.

[Bettie]

40. I did too

I entirely agree that our candidates and congresspersons need to start calling out lies boldly and baldly.

They should say "that isn't true" or "that is a lie", but the challenges are just strange and belligerent.

[cwydro]

41. What if a woman had asked the same question?

Would he still challenge a push-up contest?

[Bettie]

42. I don't know

but, given what I do know about older white men (being related to a whole lot of them) suggests he'd have handled it very differently.

[Joe941]

36. Not the best response, but I wont knock it too much.