Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe Nation: Joe Biden: An Anti-Endorsement
His long record of poor judgment and cozying up to bankers make him the wrong candidate to take on Donald Trump.
By The Nation
n recent weeks we at The Nation, like many other progressives, have come under increasing pressure to choose between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. Were going to resist that pressure to endorsefor now. Not just because we find much to admire in both candidates programs and in the way both have conducted their campaigns (especially their rejection of corporate cash and wealthy funders in favor of small donors) but also because we continue to believe the presence of both candidates on the ballot widens the left lane in our politics, exposing the broadest possible public to Medicare for All, the Green New Deal, and measures to rein in corporate power.
We also believe vigorous public debate is the best way for the strongest progressive platform to reach and be embraced by a majority of voters. Progressives may not agree with centrist Democrats like Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg, but engaging with and answering their criticisms now is essentialnot merely to win in 2020 but also to build public pressure on a Congress whose members have proved reluctant to defy their corporate benefactors.
Yet that very debate has been stifled by the continuing candidacy of a man whose chief rationale for runningthat he alone can defeat Donald Trumphas become increasingly threadbare. Like Hillary Clinton in 2016, Joe Biden offers the promise of picking up where the Obama administration left off: a restoration of business as usual for the K Street lobbyists and Wall Street speculators whose prosperity the 2008 financial crisis did little to disturb. Indeed, as Joseph N. DiStefano reports in this issue, the man posing as middle-class Joe has built his career and his familys wealth on an eagerness to serve not the many Americans crushed by credit card debt but the very banks whose hands are around their throats. The candidate who insists Medicare for All is too expensive for Americans is also the candidate who, like Clinton, endorsed NAFTA, Chinas admission to the World Trade Organization, and the Trans-Pacific Partnershipall of which have savaged US manufacturing and workers. Clintons record cost her the industrial heartland (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan) and, with it, the election.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)about you know who a while back.
People actively engaged in making that HAPPEN AGAIN right here in river city.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)to do if Biden is the nominee? Promote a third party candidate? Advise Dems to stay home (which this lunatic editorial in effect will do if Biden is the nominee)?
They can't choose yet between Sanders and Warren because they're not sure if one of those two might somehow win and they're afraid to be seen backing the wrong candidate there.
But they launch this disgusting attack on the current front-runner, who IS a liberal.
And I'd guess they want Biden out because they know damn well Warren and Sanders can't beat him in the primary.
The Nation's editors apparently really don't care about beating Trump, unless a progressive candidate they can salivate over is our nominee.
Shame on them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)take: Get out of the race, front-runner, so our more progressive but weaker candidates have a better chance!
Pathetic.
I hope The Nation loses a lot of subscribers over this.
They've lost all credibility.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)They are published by the editorial board.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
thesquanderer
(11,993 posts)It means it's not the position of one person, but the official position of the publication. Similarly, the New York Times editorial never tells you which member of the editorial board wrote it. For better or worse, it is the strongest endorsement of a position that a publication can give.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,993 posts)If you click the "author" you can see what else they have presented under that authorship:
https://www.thenation.com/authors/the-nation/
I don't think it's designed to be a smokescreen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)still on the site DEDICATED to support Democrats?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)It is funny. I got an e-mail earlier today asking for donations and/or subscription for this publication. That is not going to happen
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,048 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pfeiffer
(280 posts)And I never thought Rudy Guliani could grammatically write that well...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Mouth
(3,164 posts)A new keyboard
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,378 posts)as well? Putin-approved.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)and I'm not even a Biden guy yet.
So what's next? On op ed from Nina Turner?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)has a circulation of about 130k and it's political views, although align with mine, DO NOT represent the vast majoirty of America. It just lost a reader after this hit piece on our former VP. Joe Biden was good enough for Obama. I, for one, am done with this rag. Endorse whoever you like but an "anti endorsement" on a true and blue Democrat is disgusting. Luckily, no one much cares what The Nation thinks. Adios Amigo.. ( making a donation to Biden as we speak)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Mouth
(3,164 posts)I doubt this editorial will change the mind of a single person on this forum, except in how they regard The Nation.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LeftTurn3623
(628 posts)Bidens long record of poor judgmenton everything from the 1994 crime bill that fueled mass incarceration to his botched handling of Anita Hills testimony against Clarence Thomas to his defense of Bill Clintons brutal welfare cuts to his support for the Iraq War to his role as cheerleader for Wall Street deregulationrenders him an even weaker opponent for a president whose reelection poses a clear and present danger to Americas survival as a constitutional republic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)A lower dose of the toxicity that brought us here is not what I want either. If we have any questions about whether it will be more of the same, we need only observe the decision to not discourage Superpac formation.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OldRed2450
(710 posts)When Biden voted for the crime bill? Defended Big Chemical and Insurance Corporations.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MarcA
(2,195 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)that would make the opinion more credible. If you mention only negatives, you are open to the charge of demanding perfection.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,441 posts)"anyone but Biden"?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,692 posts)for Joe Biden! so Yay!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,692 posts)hill since I first got it in 2001.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)to Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,240 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DBoon
(22,397 posts)I would vote for a dead tree stump if you could convince me that it would deliver the swing states to the democratic party.
Once when I was much younger, I would make derogatory statements about "corporate liberals" as though they were the enemy.
After decades of Reagan/Bush/Bush/Trump, I have come to appreciate that there are far more horrific alternatives to "corporate liberals".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,862 posts)instead of trashing the others.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Katalino
(32 posts)the nation, also known as Katrina vanden Heuvel.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MarcA
(2,195 posts)All the denials, deflections and failed attempts at humor notwithstanding.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)...to support the absurd conclusions they often reach.
Thanks for an accurate example of that very lack of journalistic integrity!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)If they dare not support their preferred candidate.
As one by one paper and website side with progressive candidates like Sanders or Warren, they are smeared and attacked. Do people realize just how much of a monopoly the RW has on our news media, especially radio? And how few papers or other liberal sources we have? (thank gawd for DU). How much we should help them survive. Because even if they don't support your particular candidate, they all agree with you and your priorities waaaaaay more than any RW publication. I'd go so far as to say even more than corporate false-equivalent toting MSM news networks.
Just recently ThinkProgress shut down.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/business/media/thinkprogress-closing.html
But they put out a hit piece on Sanders, so maybe they were okay?
Link to tweet
I hated that piece that even the editor Jodi Enda, admitted later was "overly harsh". But I still lament yet another pro-Democratic pro-liberal site and their voices are now shut down. Because while I think they were wrong about Sanders, its more wrong to shut off yet another voice to promote Democrats/liberals in general against a sea of RW monopolies of news talk radio, TV, with Fox, Clearchannel, Sinclair group....
TYT is doing some great work lately. But they are also demonized because they support Sanders.
I really hope Sanders (or Warren) wins. But I wonder how that will all develop in here. When one by one paper or show endorses them if they do. And more and more journalists and papers whom you previously supported, are added to your shit list, until there are none left.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)They specifically wrote against Biden. And for the usual dumb reasons and perfectionist, one-sided negativity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)Is what another person would call the uncomfortable truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)nobody's perfect. If you must nitpick, we can find stuff about all of them. We have to be positive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Green Line
(1,123 posts)Every time something like this is posted I have to donate to Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)I may to donate to the super pac
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kevink077
(365 posts)Biden has been a solid progressive the last 20 years. Trump knows he is the sure candidate to wipe him out necktie November. That is why Trump is staying so silent about Warren and Sanders. He goes after Biden daily.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)and Putin repeatedly makes me glad I cancelled my subscription years ago. They've become a joke.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)they started going on about Obama too negatively. I put up with their Clinton bashing in the 90s.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)with the thug currently running that country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)I will not be supporting anything being promoted by this silly rag
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
revmclaren
(2,530 posts)Interesting how so many Russian hacking supporters continually bash Biden both on and off DU.
DUers can use the links in this post for a very eye opening experience...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212439167
Happy Russian enablers hunting.
ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,177 posts)...who would have thought...
"The candidate who insists Medicare for All is too expensive for Americans is also the candidate who, like Clinton, endorsed NAFTA, Chinas admission to the World Trade Organization, and the Trans-Pacific Partnershipall of which have savaged US manufacturing and workers."
"...savaged US manufacturing and workers..."...wow!
...Bernie's looking better and better and better.......
...I'm so excited, I can hardly wait to vote...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
revmclaren
(2,530 posts)you bash both Biden and Clinton.
Very revealing....
ONLY!!!! 2019 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden