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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:03 PM Nov 2019

The Nation: Joe Biden: An Anti-Endorsement

[link:https://www.thenation.com/article/biden-2020-trump-nafta/|

His long record of poor judgment and cozying up to bankers make him the wrong candidate to take on Donald Trump.

By The Nation

n recent weeks we at The Nation, like many other progressives, have come under increasing pressure to choose between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. We’re going to resist that pressure to endorse—for now. Not just because we find much to admire in both candidates’ programs and in the way both have conducted their campaigns (especially their rejection of corporate cash and wealthy funders in favor of small donors) but also because we continue to believe the presence of both candidates on the ballot widens the left lane in our politics, exposing the broadest possible public to Medicare for All, the Green New Deal, and measures to rein in corporate power.
We also believe vigorous public debate is the best way for the strongest progressive platform to reach and be embraced by a majority of voters. Progressives may not agree with centrist Democrats like Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg, but engaging with and answering their criticisms now is essential—not merely to win in 2020 but also to build public pressure on a Congress whose members have proved reluctant to defy their corporate benefactors.

Yet that very debate has been stifled by the continuing candidacy of a man whose chief rationale for running—that he alone can defeat Donald Trump—has become increasingly threadbare. Like Hillary Clinton in 2016, Joe Biden offers the promise of picking up where the Obama administration left off: a restoration of business as usual for the K Street lobbyists and Wall Street speculators whose prosperity the 2008 financial crisis did little to disturb. Indeed, as Joseph N. DiStefano reports in this issue, the man posing as “middle-class Joe” has built his career and his family’s wealth on an eagerness to serve not the many Americans crushed by credit card debt but the very banks whose hands are around their throats. The candidate who insists Medicare for All is too expensive for Americans is also the candidate who, like Clinton, endorsed NAFTA, China’s admission to the World Trade Organization, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership—all of which have savaged US manufacturing and workers. Clinton’s record cost her the industrial heartland (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan) and, with it, the election.

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The Nation: Joe Biden: An Anti-Endorsement (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 OP
meh Drunken Irishman Nov 2019 #1
LOL! highplainsdem Nov 2019 #2
This is the kind of VILE crap that got us where we are today when it was done Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #3
It's absolutely idiotic, with the Nation's editors marching toward irrelevance. What are they going highplainsdem Nov 2019 #7
It's unbelievable that The Nation doesn't even have the guts to post a byline for that trash. George II Nov 2019 #15
Oh, it's believable that they're cowardly enough not to have a byline. It's a cowardly position to highplainsdem Nov 2019 #20
Editorials do not have bylines. redqueen Nov 2019 #26
The lack of a byline in a publication's editorial is its biggest endorsement of the position. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #29
The link calls it an "article". George II Nov 2019 #30
Ah. The site calls it an editorial, though. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #35
Why is this FUCKING CRAP Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #66
I know! Echo chamber material only! Blue_Adept Nov 2019 #68
I also laughed at this editorial Gothmog Nov 2019 #51
I don't trust The Nation. 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2019 #4
Me neither... pfeiffer Nov 2019 #8
You owe me The Mouth Nov 2019 #37
Me neither. If Vanderhueven comes on tv, I change the channel. NT Ilsa Nov 2019 #33
Ah yes, Putin apologist Katrina Vanden Heuvel calls on Biden to comradebillyboy Nov 2019 #5
Taking a pause from their Russia worship i see. Was this written by Katrina V-H's husband hlthe2b Nov 2019 #6
Even The Nation didn't have the guts to say who actually wrote it. George II Nov 2019 #12
I'd be embarrassed to post that crap awesomerwb1 Nov 2019 #9
You mean there hasn't been one yet? mcar Nov 2019 #63
A stealth attempt to attack Biden, "it's not MY opinion!" But it doesn't even say who wrote it. George II Nov 2019 #10
Maybe someone is branching out from Politico LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #14
... NurseJackie Nov 2019 #17
... George II Nov 2019 #31
LOL Gothmog Nov 2019 #52
The editorial board of The Nation LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #40
the Nation, evertonfc Nov 2019 #11
But for some untold reason this found it's way onto DU. George II Nov 2019 #13
We need to be aware of crap like this The Mouth Nov 2019 #38
K and R! Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #16
I have a concern with these issues as well LeftTurn3623 Nov 2019 #18
Yep. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #19
Yep loyalsister Nov 2019 #24
What was Elizabeth Warren doing in the 90's? OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #27
What's Joe Biden doing Now with those corporations? n/t MarcA Nov 2019 #42
They should have balanced the positives treestar Nov 2019 #58
What is "anti-endorsement"? Is this what people say when they are too embarrassed to go full beastie boy Nov 2019 #21
lol.. the Nation's "anti-endorsement" is actually an Endorsement Cha Nov 2019 #23
This is Good for Joe Biden.. the Nation has gone way down Cha Nov 2019 #22
I just donated $50 OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #25
Good for you. I've only donated 10 bucks so far. When I get my SS this month, I'll donate again. trueblue2007 Nov 2019 #45
I don't care DBoon Nov 2019 #28
I sure wish certain candidates' supporters would support their candidate The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #32
when its all you have.. you do what you have to I guess.. Peacetrain Nov 2019 #34
The Nation is fast becoming irrelevant and divisive nt NYMinute Nov 2019 #36
That's the pro-Sandees magazine that once denied Russian involvement in DNC hacking Katalino Nov 2019 #39
Spot on article by the Nation. MarcA Nov 2019 #41
Well whadda ya know: George II Nov 2019 #43
Great thing about editorials is they're under no obligation to provide objective evidence... LanternWaste Nov 2019 #44
Some here will have no liberal publication left to read. One by one they are deemed "trash" LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #46
They didn't support Sanders treestar Nov 2019 #60
One persons "dumb reasons and perfectionist, one-sided negativity." LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #64
there can be those about all the candidates treestar Nov 2019 #67
This is disqualifying. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #47
This crap is costing me money Green Line Nov 2019 #48
I maxed out for the primary and so I cannot do this Gothmog Nov 2019 #50
LOL-Biden is not going to withdraw due to a silly editorial Gothmog Nov 2019 #49
Nonsense kevink077 Nov 2019 #53
And The Nation's constant downplaying and covering for Russia Downtown Hound Nov 2019 #54
+1 Maven Nov 2019 #56
I subscribed for years and then cancelled when treestar Nov 2019 #62
The Nation will take you to The Kremlin. What a trip! Details here: emmaverybo Nov 2019 #55
How pathetic. And their trip will "review the Gorbachev years" as if THAT has anything to do highplainsdem Nov 2019 #59
I got the same e-mail Gothmog Nov 2019 #69
The Nation is a Putin apologist publication. revmclaren Nov 2019 #57
wow... myohmy2 Nov 2019 #61
So in one post revmclaren Nov 2019 #65
 

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
3. This is the kind of VILE crap that got us where we are today when it was done
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:08 PM
Nov 2019

about you know who a while back.

People actively engaged in making that HAPPEN AGAIN right here in river city.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
7. It's absolutely idiotic, with the Nation's editors marching toward irrelevance. What are they going
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:14 PM
Nov 2019

to do if Biden is the nominee? Promote a third party candidate? Advise Dems to stay home (which this lunatic editorial in effect will do if Biden is the nominee)?

They can't choose yet between Sanders and Warren because they're not sure if one of those two might somehow win and they're afraid to be seen backing the wrong candidate there.

But they launch this disgusting attack on the current front-runner, who IS a liberal.

And I'd guess they want Biden out because they know damn well Warren and Sanders can't beat him in the primary.

The Nation's editors apparently really don't care about beating Trump, unless a progressive candidate they can salivate over is our nominee.

Shame on them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. It's unbelievable that The Nation doesn't even have the guts to post a byline for that trash.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:37 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
20. Oh, it's believable that they're cowardly enough not to have a byline. It's a cowardly position to
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:54 PM
Nov 2019

take: Get out of the race, front-runner, so our more progressive but weaker candidates have a better chance!

Pathetic.

I hope The Nation loses a lot of subscribers over this.

They've lost all credibility.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
26. Editorials do not have bylines.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:32 PM
Nov 2019

They are published by the editorial board.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,993 posts)
29. The lack of a byline in a publication's editorial is its biggest endorsement of the position.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:34 PM
Nov 2019

It means it's not the position of one person, but the official position of the publication. Similarly, the New York Times editorial never tells you which member of the editorial board wrote it. For better or worse, it is the strongest endorsement of a position that a publication can give.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
30. The link calls it an "article".
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:40 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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thesquanderer

(11,993 posts)
35. Ah. The site calls it an editorial, though.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:58 PM
Nov 2019

If you click the "author" you can see what else they have presented under that authorship:

https://www.thenation.com/authors/the-nation/

I don't think it's designed to be a smokescreen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
66. Why is this FUCKING CRAP
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:08 PM
Nov 2019

still on the site DEDICATED to support Democrats?


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Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
68. I know! Echo chamber material only!
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:14 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
51. I also laughed at this editorial
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:24 PM
Nov 2019

It is funny. I got an e-mail earlier today asking for donations and/or subscription for this publication. That is not going to happen

If I were to vote in a presidential
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pfeiffer

(280 posts)
8. Me neither...
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:14 PM
Nov 2019

And I never thought Rudy Guliani could grammatically write that well...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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The Mouth

(3,164 posts)
37. You owe me
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:11 PM
Nov 2019

A new keyboard

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
33. Me neither. If Vanderhueven comes on tv, I change the channel. NT
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:53 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,378 posts)
6. Taking a pause from their Russia worship i see. Was this written by Katrina V-H's husband
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:11 PM
Nov 2019

as well? Putin-approved.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
12. Even The Nation didn't have the guts to say who actually wrote it.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:19 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
9. I'd be embarrassed to post that crap
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:15 PM
Nov 2019

and I'm not even a Biden guy yet.

So what's next? On op ed from Nina Turner?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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mcar

(42,376 posts)
63. You mean there hasn't been one yet?
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:23 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
10. A stealth attempt to attack Biden, "it's not MY opinion!" But it doesn't even say who wrote it.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:16 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
14. Maybe someone is branching out from Politico
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:36 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
40. The editorial board of The Nation
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:29 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
11. the Nation,
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:17 PM
Nov 2019

has a circulation of about 130k and it's political views, although align with mine, DO NOT represent the vast majoirty of America. It just lost a reader after this hit piece on our former VP. Joe Biden was good enough for Obama. I, for one, am done with this rag. Endorse whoever you like but an "anti endorsement" on a true and blue Democrat is disgusting. Luckily, no one much cares what The Nation thinks. Adios Amigo.. ( making a donation to Biden as we speak)

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George II

(67,782 posts)
13. But for some untold reason this found it's way onto DU.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:21 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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The Mouth

(3,164 posts)
38. We need to be aware of crap like this
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:14 PM
Nov 2019

I doubt this editorial will change the mind of a single person on this forum, except in how they regard The Nation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
18. I have a concern with these issues as well
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:54 PM
Nov 2019

Biden’s long record of poor judgment—on everything from the 1994 crime bill that fueled mass incarceration to his botched handling of Anita Hill’s testimony against Clarence Thomas to his defense of Bill Clinton’s brutal welfare cuts to his support for the Iraq War to his role as cheerleader for Wall Street deregulation—renders him an even weaker opponent for a president whose reelection poses a clear and present danger to America’s survival as a constitutional republic.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
24. Yep
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:28 PM
Nov 2019

A lower dose of the toxicity that brought us here is not what I want either. If we have any questions about whether it will be more of the same, we need only observe the decision to not discourage Superpac formation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
27. What was Elizabeth Warren doing in the 90's?
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:33 PM
Nov 2019

When Biden voted for the crime bill? Defended Big Chemical and Insurance Corporations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
42. What's Joe Biden doing Now with those corporations? n/t
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:42 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
58. They should have balanced the positives
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:07 PM
Nov 2019

that would make the opinion more credible. If you mention only negatives, you are open to the charge of demanding perfection.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,441 posts)
21. What is "anti-endorsement"? Is this what people say when they are too embarrassed to go full
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:58 PM
Nov 2019

"anyone but Biden"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,692 posts)
23. lol.. the Nation's "anti-endorsement" is actually an Endorsement
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:26 PM
Nov 2019

for Joe Biden! so Yay!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,692 posts)
22. This is Good for Joe Biden.. the Nation has gone way down
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:25 PM
Nov 2019

hill since I first got it in 2001.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
25. I just donated $50
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:30 PM
Nov 2019

to Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

trueblue2007

(17,240 posts)
45. Good for you. I've only donated 10 bucks so far. When I get my SS this month, I'll donate again.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:57 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DBoon

(22,397 posts)
28. I don't care
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:34 PM
Nov 2019

I would vote for a dead tree stump if you could convince me that it would deliver the swing states to the democratic party.

Once when I was much younger, I would make derogatory statements about "corporate liberals" as though they were the enemy.

After decades of Reagan/Bush/Bush/Trump, I have come to appreciate that there are far more horrific alternatives to "corporate liberals".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,862 posts)
32. I sure wish certain candidates' supporters would support their candidate
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:45 PM
Nov 2019

instead of trashing the others.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,878 posts)
34. when its all you have.. you do what you have to I guess..
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:55 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
36. The Nation is fast becoming irrelevant and divisive nt
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:07 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Katalino

(32 posts)
39. That's the pro-Sandees magazine that once denied Russian involvement in DNC hacking
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:22 PM
Nov 2019

the nation, also known as Katrina vanden Heuvel.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
41. Spot on article by the Nation.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:41 PM
Nov 2019

All the denials, deflections and failed attempts at humor notwithstanding.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
44. Great thing about editorials is they're under no obligation to provide objective evidence...
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:51 PM
Nov 2019

...to support the absurd conclusions they often reach.

Thanks for an accurate example of that very lack of journalistic integrity!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
46. Some here will have no liberal publication left to read. One by one they are deemed "trash"
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:13 PM
Nov 2019

If they dare not support their preferred candidate.

As one by one paper and website side with progressive candidates like Sanders or Warren, they are smeared and attacked. Do people realize just how much of a monopoly the RW has on our news media, especially radio? And how few papers or other liberal sources we have? (thank gawd for DU). How much we should help them survive. Because even if they don't support your particular candidate, they all agree with you and your priorities waaaaaay more than any RW publication. I'd go so far as to say even more than corporate false-equivalent toting MSM news networks.

Just recently ThinkProgress shut down.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/business/media/thinkprogress-closing.html
But they put out a hit piece on Sanders, so maybe they were okay?




I hated that piece that even the editor Jodi Enda, admitted later was "overly harsh". But I still lament yet another pro-Democratic pro-liberal site and their voices are now shut down. Because while I think they were wrong about Sanders, its more wrong to shut off yet another voice to promote Democrats/liberals in general against a sea of RW monopolies of news talk radio, TV, with Fox, Clearchannel, Sinclair group....

TYT is doing some great work lately. But they are also demonized because they support Sanders.

I really hope Sanders (or Warren) wins. But I wonder how that will all develop in here. When one by one paper or show endorses them if they do. And more and more journalists and papers whom you previously supported, are added to your shit list, until there are none left.


If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
60. They didn't support Sanders
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:17 PM
Nov 2019

They specifically wrote against Biden. And for the usual dumb reasons and perfectionist, one-sided negativity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
64. One persons "dumb reasons and perfectionist, one-sided negativity."
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:29 PM
Nov 2019

Is what another person would call the uncomfortable truth.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
67. there can be those about all the candidates
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:11 PM
Nov 2019

nobody's perfect. If you must nitpick, we can find stuff about all of them. We have to be positive.

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Joe Biden
 

Green Line

(1,123 posts)
48. This crap is costing me money
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:20 PM
Nov 2019

Every time something like this is posted I have to donate to Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
50. I maxed out for the primary and so I cannot do this
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:22 PM
Nov 2019

I may to donate to the super pac

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
49. LOL-Biden is not going to withdraw due to a silly editorial
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:21 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kevink077

(365 posts)
53. Nonsense
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:29 PM
Nov 2019

Biden has been a solid progressive the last 20 years. Trump knows he is the sure candidate to wipe him out necktie November. That is why Trump is staying so silent about Warren and Sanders. He goes after Biden daily.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
54. And The Nation's constant downplaying and covering for Russia
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:30 PM
Nov 2019

and Putin repeatedly makes me glad I cancelled my subscription years ago. They've become a joke.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
62. I subscribed for years and then cancelled when
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:21 PM
Nov 2019

they started going on about Obama too negatively. I put up with their Clinton bashing in the 90s.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
55. The Nation will take you to The Kremlin. What a trip! Details here:
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:35 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
59. How pathetic. And their trip will "review the Gorbachev years" as if THAT has anything to do
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:12 PM
Nov 2019

with the thug currently running that country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
69. I got the same e-mail
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:20 PM
Nov 2019

I will not be supporting anything being promoted by this silly rag

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

revmclaren

(2,530 posts)
57. The Nation is a Putin apologist publication.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:57 PM
Nov 2019

Interesting how so many Russian hacking supporters continually bash Biden both on and off DU.

DUers can use the links in this post for a very eye opening experience...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212439167

Happy Russian enablers hunting.



ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

myohmy2

(3,177 posts)
61. wow...
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:17 PM
Nov 2019

...who would have thought...

"The candidate who insists Medicare for All is too expensive for Americans is also the candidate who, like Clinton, endorsed NAFTA, China’s admission to the World Trade Organization, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership—all of which have savaged US manufacturing and workers."

"...savaged US manufacturing and workers..."...wow!

...Bernie's looking better and better and better.......


...I'm so excited, I can hardly wait to vote...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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revmclaren

(2,530 posts)
65. So in one post
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:02 PM
Nov 2019

you bash both Biden and Clinton.

Very revealing....





ONLY!!!! 2019 and beyond.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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