Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumGabbard WSJ op-ed: I Can Defeat Trump and the Clinton Doctrine
(Since she is still listed here, ahead of Yang and Booker, Castro and Steyer this is not "bashing Democrat" but, I suppose...)
(snip)
Hardly a week goes by when Im not asked a question about how Im being secretly backed by Russia or other foreign powerson top of countless other falsehoods intended to destroy my reputation. Those who are indebted to the war machine and the overreaching intelligence agencies, as well as their cheerleaders in the media, are determined to take me down because they know they cant control me. Im directly challenging their power.
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Whether Mrs. Clintons name is on the ballot or not, her foreign policy will be, as many of the Democratic candidates adhere to her doctrine of acting as the worlds police, using the tools of war to overthrow governments we dont like, wasting taxpayer dollars, costing American lives, causing suffering and destruction abroad, and undermining Americas security.
A Gabbard presidency would mean the end of trying to police the world, no more overthrowing governments, an end to the new Cold War and nuclear arms race, and redirecting our resources to urgent needs at home. That doesnt mean Im an isolationist. I will lead with a robust, positive foreign policy based on diplomacy and cooperation rather than confrontation and conflict. Those who follow the Bush-Clinton doctrine believe the only way to interact with other nations is by bombing them or starving them with draconian sanctions.
The most important responsibility of the president is to serve as commander-in-chief. As a Member of Congress for nearly seven years serving on the Armed Services and Foreign Affairs Committees, and as a veteran who deployed twice to the Middle East, Im prepared to do that job from day one. I will immediately begin reversing the damage the Bush-Clinton doctrine has done to America and the world. To focus single-mindedly on this critical task, Ive decided not to seek another term in the House of Representatives, where Ive been honored to serve.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-can-defeat-trump-and-the-clinton-doctrine-11572389508 (paid subscription)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Tyrants will run the world and America will decline.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)we have to put up with this?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)...after the insults against Hillary Clinton, Ms. Gabbard's recent appearance on Fox News, and this WSJ op-ed. Ms. Gabbard, your Presidential bid is toast. The sooner you leave the race, the sooner the healing can begin.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)I've heard this song and dance before and I know how it ends.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Teach-only-love
(73 posts)I hesitate to write it, but I feel this must be said. Ralph Nader did a lot of good things before his ego became over-inflated and he did a very stupid thing. I doubt anyone regrets his action more then he does. In the same way, Tulsi Gabbard has been doing some pretty stupid things but what she advocates was not out of the mainstream of Democratic thought in the past. "The end of trying to police the world, no more overthrowing governments, an end to the new Cold War and the nuclear arms race, and redirecting our resources to urgent needs at home." Think about what President Obama said "The world is messy. There are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws. and making change is not "to be as judgmental as possible about other people." Are we actually encouraging what we don't want (her running as a third-party candidate) by being so critical of her? This is something to think about. (Yeah, I know it was really stupid of her to criticize Hillary.)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)A feel good sound bite in whats become a global economy. The reason she criticizing Hillary is the same reason anyone with little power criticizes Hillary. Its not an admirable trait.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,526 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,240 posts)and she's not letting go. She's seen how far animosity for Hillary can get you.
I'm hoping it backfires on her gaslighting self.
Somebody should also let her know that the Clinton Doctrine would have been wonderful .. I don't give a shit what gabbard, jill stein or SSarandon have to lie about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,526 posts)Only morons believe Hillary (or President Obama or VP Biden) is a "warmonger."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
make up this shit! But she's going for it anyway.. acting like she adhere's to the SS school of thought.
Sarandon: "I believe Hillary is more Dangerous than trump "
This is in 2017.. still holding on to her favorite fantasy..
Susan Sarandon: Hillary Clinton Would HaveBeen a 'Very Dangerous' President
https://www.newsweek.com/susan-sarandon-hillary-clinton-was-very-dangerous-and-her-fans-still-troll-me-722648
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bhphoto
(45 posts)It's a common strategy used by Democrat-hating Steinites.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,240 posts)is Not running for POTUS no matter how much Gabbard insists she is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)That's all we need to hear, Ms Gabbard. Go back to Hawaii, see how that message plays on your own home turf.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StevieM
(10,500 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,240 posts)President.. somebody should insist she get on the same page as the candidates who know she's not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)It's particularly popular in right-wing circles. Even Laura Ingraham has pushed the meme. And we know how reliable she is. LOL.
I understand the story started at Brietbart. For Gabbard to run with the rumor is just another nail in her political coffin.
It never stops.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Unfortunately, we have some of those in our party and even here on DU.
I am not surprised that she didn't point out how corrupt and damaging Trump's foreign policy has been. She needs to still kiss up to MAGATS and Hillary haters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,406 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AZ8theist
(5,464 posts)Buh bye.
See you in the next REPUBLICAN primary for something...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,240 posts)district.. Who knew in 2018 she would make a caricature of herself, Dissing Hillary.. in 2019?!
So appreciate we have an Excellent Dem, Kai Kahele, running for our Rep in 2020!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287317411
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
He's a very impressive candidate. I can understand why ANYONE would be reluctant to run against him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,240 posts)Outshines the incumbent!
Aloha, Jackie!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Enough indoor plants
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,240 posts)If you could have seen me during the 2018 midterms here.. going out of my way to avoid even looking at any Gabbard signs.. and she had a lot of them!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bucolic_frolic
(43,162 posts)Did she really confess to that? What a foolish editorial.
And I'd hardly call it the Clinton Doctrine. It's been practiced to some degree since the Battle of the Alamo.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(61,608 posts)Tulsi is auditioning for a job on Fox News.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
A real giveaway. Yeah.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FM123
(10,053 posts)It sounded "off" to hear her addressed like that, but I couldn't put my finger on who likes to refer to her in that way. Of course it's Fux.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(61,608 posts)This particular insult was common in the 1970s and 80s as more women launched their own professional careers. Efforts to push professional women back out of the workplace included demeaning language, such as calling them "Mrs. (husband name)." Just as more women began using Ms., there was a backlash.
Tulsi is too young to remember this. She's been scripted to call Hillary "Mrs. Clinton." It's a dog whistle to older conservative viewers - the Fox News base. This also tells me that Tulsi is not being groomed for a leadership position, even if she thinks she is. They're not helping her become president. Far from it. Her job is to be a spoiler to keep Trump in office. Then she can take her pretty face and well-scripted act to Fox News. That's how they think of her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
myohmy2
(3,163 posts)...if we'd wanted a trump, we'd vote for trump...
...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Good old Rupert gives her an elevated platform.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(47,479 posts)Kerry, Clinton, Obama and others.
I think that even Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Of course they didn't. Meet the definition of a fallacy.
And those you mention are accomplished politicians.
The difference is night and day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)HELLO! remember me?!?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,345 posts)She can't even define "the Clinton doctrine" with any degree of coherence.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sop
(10,177 posts)"Backed by Russians...falsehoods intended to destroy my reputation...the war machine...overreaching intelligence agencies...cheerleaders in the media...they can't control me...determined to take me down...directly challenging their power."
Throw in a couple of lines about "Mexican rapists" and "building a wall Mexico will pay for" and you have Trump's stump speech back in 2016
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden