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tinrobot

(10,900 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 09:38 PM Oct 2019

Russians are meddling in the Democratic primary. Is anyone paying attention?

Last week, Facebook revealed details of a new Russian influence operation targeting the 2020 U.S. election. Sticking to the playbook they used in the 2016 presidential election, Russian operatives infiltrated both sides of contentious political debates, seeking to widen the fissures in American society. The operation focused on Instagram and reached roughly 147,000 U.S.-based Instagram users. The efforts concentrated on the swing state of Florida.

Yet unlike 2016, when most Russian activity occurred during the general election, this operation took place amid a heated Democratic primary. This marks a troubling development. Despite all the study of state-sponsored disinformation over the past three years, we still have little knowledge of how a foreign influence operation might affect a crowded and contentious intra-party contest. There is a real danger that Russian interference — and the suspicion of Russian interference — will hang over the primary like a storm cloud, poisoning debate and infuriating progressive activists. It will also offer political ammunition to President Trump, who will use all the instruments of government to exploit it.

This new Russian activity seems destined to reopen old wounds. According to a report from the the data analysis firm Graphika, Russian operatives created fake African American news outlets to tarnish former vice president Joe Biden while boosting the candidacy of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). This is an eerie reflection of Kremlin mischief-making in 2016, when its operatives adopted the same techniques in order to encourage the defection of Sanders primary voters from Hillary Clinton, then the Democratic nominee.


More here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/29/russians-are-meddling-democratic-primary-is-anyone-paying-attention/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Russians are meddling in the Democratic primary. Is anyone paying attention? (Original Post) tinrobot Oct 2019 OP
NEVER trust any russians. democratisphere Oct 2019 #1
In this day and age, if my mother was Russian I wouldn't trust her. Thankfully she was Canadian.... George II Oct 2019 #2
Discussing candidate preferences respectfully BlueWI Oct 2019 #3
Yep. I find myself reminding people daily redqueen Oct 2019 #7
wow... myohmy2 Oct 2019 #4
ya know, bernie better grab this shit by the horns. mopinko Oct 2019 #5
I canvassed for him last time but I agree with you 100% lostnfound Oct 2019 #6
he has a unique platform. mopinko Oct 2019 #8
I don't thinks it's that they prefer Sanders, it's just that his voters are easier to incite/defect maximusveritas Oct 2019 #9
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
1. NEVER trust any russians.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 09:41 PM
Oct 2019

NEVER.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. In this day and age, if my mother was Russian I wouldn't trust her. Thankfully she was Canadian....
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 09:47 PM
Oct 2019

...and a great American.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
3. Discussing candidate preferences respectfully
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 09:51 PM
Oct 2019

without spamming the board with identical posts or flaming candidates one dislikes - do that, and the bots will starve.

Funny how doing those simple things seem to be more than some of us can do. This article is one more reason to self-regulate and have a sober, fair, and courteous discussion. That should be in the TOS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
7. Yep. I find myself reminding people daily
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 10:21 PM
Oct 2019

to keep in mind that if someone is overly argumentative, they may just be trying to disrupt.

Whether it's trolls or bots or whatever, just stop engaging if discussions turn toxic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
4. wow...
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 09:53 PM
Oct 2019

"...Russian operatives created fake African American news outlets to tarnish former vice president Joe Biden while boosting the candidacy of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). "
……………………………

"As Sanders rose to Gabbard’s defense (“It is outrageous for anyone to suggest that Tulsi is a foreign asset”), an online chorus accused him of being a Russian asset as well."
…………………………..

...the republicans and their corporate buddies may be using putin and his game to their advantage...

...I don't want to minimize Russian involvement, but this could easily turn into a witch hunt reminiscent of the Red Scare and Commie hunts of the 1950's...

...if we're not careful...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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mopinko

(70,103 posts)
5. ya know, bernie better grab this shit by the horns.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 10:02 PM
Oct 2019

the one way he could get me to vote for him would be to find a way to do something, like fucking anything, to blow this kind of shit out of the water.
my main beef w him this time was the way he let the russians troll for him, knowing good and god damned well inside the campaign what was happening.
fine, they didnt catch it last time. but damn it, he should have been ready from the get go this time, and he wasnt.
he better catch up fast.

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Undecided
 

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
6. I canvassed for him last time but I agree with you 100%
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 10:13 PM
Oct 2019

He has slipped far down my list precisely because I don’t see much effort to contain the Russian threat. Quite the opposite. So I wonder, who would he pick as a VP candidate?

I also consider Elizabeth Warren to be a more flexible thinker.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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mopinko

(70,103 posts)
8. he has a unique platform.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 10:27 PM
Oct 2019

and i havent heard a peep from him about his pov on the whole scandal.
he could shift the battle field, but he figures it's working out ok for him, i guess.

and yeah, his mental rigidity is why i lost my taste for him. same speech for any occasion, no matter how weighty.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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maximusveritas

(2,915 posts)
9. I don't thinks it's that they prefer Sanders, it's just that his voters are easier to incite/defect
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:14 AM
Oct 2019

as they tend to be on the fringes of the party to begin with and suspicious of the "establishment" and whatnot.
They will probably make claims that the DNC is cheating on behalf of Biden or Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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