Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumHillary should have avoided the word "asset,"
even though it was probably the most accurate word available. It's too sophisticated for most of her audience to understand that an "asset" doesn't have to be a spy or a traitor. We shouldn't be wasting time attacking Gabbard's intentions, just her policies and the threat of a 3rd party candidate. An asset is just very useful for whatever reasons. The link below is very helpful.
Following its established playbook, Russia has increasingly interfered in the politics of traditional opponents throughout the West in the hopes of undermining democracy and stability from within. Donald Trump was a political novice with a longstanding public admiration for Russian President Vladimir Putin and a penchant for advancing conspiracy theories. He espoused isolationist policies and had potentially compromising financial relationships with Kremlin-aligned oligarchs. He also had few apparent scruples and was running against a woman Putin considers among his main adversaries. Trump was simply an ideal candidate for the Kremlin to back. There is also reason to suspect that Russia began cultivating Trump as an asset long before his campaign for president, a common tactic the Kremlin pursues with people it suspects may be useful in the future.
https://themoscowproject.org/collusion-chapter/chapter-3/
Edit: And here is another place to see the definition of "asset."
Russia's success in attacking our democracy is not tied to their ability to recruit Gabbard (or anyone else) to parrot Russian talking points. Rather, their success comes with their ability to influence and manipulate, through amplification, certain messages and candidates that create division. As we saw in 2016, Russia was able to aid Donald Trump by using tailored and manipulated social media campaigns, without even the knowledge or direction of the Trump campaign itself. After all, Russia's goal in 2016 was the delegitimization of our elections; they did not need to coordinate with Trump to make that happen. That's the disturbing parallel with Gabbard: Russia can seek to support her, without her knowledge.
https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-being-used-russians-former-us-double-agent-evidence-clear-opinion-1466750
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,397 posts)Stop second-guessing smart people. The RW assholes dont care what words they use.
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LAS14
(13,783 posts)... there is "proof." The Russians are the ones she's attacking and DUers (and, I assume, lots of active Democrats) are taking their eye off the Russian ball.
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abqtommy
(14,118 posts)every word Hillary writes or speaks.
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thesquanderer
(11,995 posts)I see the OP's point. Hillary chose a correct word to express what she wanted to express, but also one that is widely misunderstood.
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The Mouth
(3,164 posts)Would be even more obscure, but historically accurate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike Nelson
(9,970 posts)... was the correct word, respectfully. Also, she pointed at the Russians for meddling, without accusing Tulsi of anything. People just seem to go crazy when Hillary speaks.
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LAS14
(13,783 posts)... a sound bite. See my response #3.
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Politicub
(12,165 posts)For all of her political career, everything she wears, does and says -- even how she styles her hair -- have been scrutinized. It gets old.
Do you think you're smarter than most people? Is that why you think most of her "audience" won't understand?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LAS14
(13,783 posts).... I shouldn't be jumping on the "but we need proof" bandwagon. I'm a firm Hillary supporter. I've known her personally back in the day.
But, no, I don't think I'm smarter than most people. But I think most people won't take the trouble to research the term "asset." Just look at the posts here on DU taking a much worse view of what she said than I am.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Proof and circumstantial evidence will be dismissed by people who are against anything Hillary anyway because of confirmation bias.
I should have been more considerate in my reply to your OP because you are just trying to help.
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lapucelle
(18,356 posts)Here's some context:
"She's the favorite of the Russians, they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and - that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not, because she is also a Russian asset yeah, she's a Russian asset! I mean totally!" Clinton continued. Clinton supporters have alleged that Stein served as a spoiler in the 2016 election.
"They know they can't win without a third-party candidate. And so, I don't know who it's gonna be, but I can guarantee they'll have a vigorous third party challenge in the key states that they most need it," Clinton said about the Russians.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-suggests-russians-are-grooming-a-2020-democratic-candidate/
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)She knows exactly what she's doing.
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LAS14
(13,783 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)No, but that's always a possibility. I do not believe that Hillary should try to moderate her language to accommodate the "lowest common denominator." She's never been one to "dumb-down" her language and vocabulary. She doesn't talk down to people, and she's never been "lofty" either.
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Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)and probably would have been understood by a broader segment of the population.
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LAS14
(13,783 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Most people hear that word and think it means she is working for them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)But Gabbard is less useful to the troll farms now. Im not saying she was aware of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LAS14
(13,783 posts)Russia's success in attacking our democracy is not tied to their ability to recruit Gabbard (or anyone else) to parrot Russian talking points. Rather, their success comes with their ability to influence and manipulate, through amplification, certain messages and candidates that create division. As we saw in 2016, Russia was able to aid Donald Trump by using tailored and manipulated social media campaigns, without even the knowledge or direction of the Trump campaign itself. After all, Russia's goal in 2016 was the delegitimization of our elections; they did not need to coordinate with Trump to make that happen. That's the disturbing parallel with Gabbard: Russia can seek to support her, without her knowledge.
https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-being-used-russians-former-us-double-agent-evidence-clear-opinion-1466750
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden