Strange phrase by Warren about cost of Medicare for all

[question everything]

This phrase is being aired again and again when pundits talk about how Warren handled the cost of Medicare for all.

WARREN: So I have made clear what my principles are here, and that is costs will go up for the wealthy and for big corporations, and for hard-working middle-class families, costs will go down.

I am not an English maven, far from it, but when she adds the middle class it appears as it cost will go up for the wealthy and for big corporation and for hard working middle class families.

One has to wait for the end of the sentence to realize that she says costs will go down for the middle class.

Yes, later she said:

Costs are going to go up for the wealthy. They're going to go up for big corporations. They will not go up for middle-class families.

Also: So my view on this, and what I have committed to, is costs will go down for hardworking, middle-class families.

Just wondering

[TwilightZone]

1. It's two separate things.

There are two separate phrases in the sentence. Look at the comma after corporations as a semi-colon and it makes perfect sense. Or consider it as two separate sentences.

"So I have made clear what my principles are here, and that is costs will go up for the wealthy and for big corporations; and for hard-working middle-class families, costs will go down."

[pnwmom]

16. Right. Whoever made the transcript used incorrect punctuation. n/t

[ritapria]

2. Mayor Pete Praises MFA on MSNBC in February 2019

Google : " Pete Buttigieg Perfectly explains Why Medicare for All is Not Radical " He's spot on

[Celerity]

18. BUT, he (correctly as it is the only thing that can get passed in Congress) adds 'WHO WANT IT'

Medicare For All Who Want It

IOW

give people the choice

IOW

the public option

Which, btw is going to take massive, herculean-level heavy lifting to get passed in Congress as Big Healthcare, Big Insurance, and Big Pharma will spend 100's of millions to fight even that, fight like their very long term survival depends on it (in some cases, especially some of Big Insurance, which it does.).

Straight MFA with the complete (or near complete) phaseout of all private insurance is a massive election loser and will never get passed with a MASSIVE re-alignment of the entire Congress.

[Hoyt]

3. She's dancing around the truth. Until she offers firm costs, like for family size and income levels

there will be a lot of skepticism of her plan. Enough skepticism to cost her/us the General Election, IMO.

[Mr.Bill]

13. She also needs to define middle class.

People have different ideas about who and what is middle class.

[2naSalit]

4. And what about the elderly and poor?

We don't qualify as "middle class".

[Voltaire2]

7. Costs for people who are not working would

be around zero.

[pnwmom]

17. The poor already have Medicaid and the elderly poor already have Medicare/Medicaid. nt

[Voltaire2]

5. You are struggling very hard to avoid the

obvious meaning of what she said.

[bluewater]

6. Essentially, its about how spoken speech differs from text on the page.

When speaking, pauses and tempo make what she is saying very clear.

But you make a valid point, the text of that could be clearer to be more effective when read. A simple substitution of "but hard working middle class families" would be more effective.

[George II]

8. Hmmm, in one comment she says costs will not go up for middle-class families, then later....

....costs will go down for hardworking, middle-class families.

Too many qualifiers, and too vague overall.

What constitutes "hardworking middle-class" families? Is that different from just "middle-class" families? And as noted by someone else, no mention of poor families.

It would be so much easier and clearer to just say how much it's going to cost overall and who pays what.

[Joe941]

9. This is what we need. The rich should pay for health care.

[wasupaloopa]

10. I like the idea of reducing income inequality and saying health care will be affordable for everyone

I don’t like the idea of pitting people against people.

If we reduce income inequality and reduce the cost of health care so that we have universal affordable health care there is no need to create more division.

I think the motive for single payer for some is hate for wealthy and hate for profit making and not so much for universal care.

[PETRUS]

12. I can only speak for myself and those individuals whose views I know well...

...but the sentiments and motivation you suspect don't apply to me, and I honestly doubt it's true for very many people. I know a large number of people who - like myself - are fairly radical egalitarians and in favor of single payer, and your hypothesis doesn't apply to even one of them. I can expand on this if you want to know what I and my friends and acquaintances actually think.

[TreasonousBastard]

11. How many hairs can be split over this?

Even if she had a real plan with costs included, she still has to guarantee that that Congress will pass it without changes.

And guarantee that the opposition will not blast about tax increases 24 hours a day, making it
less likely she'll get the chance.

[Mr.Bill]

14. If the opposition is in the minority

in both houses of congress, I don't care what they think or say.

[pnwmom]

15. She is clear. Whoever punctuated this written transcript botched the job.

They wrote:

So I have made clear what my principles are here, and that is costs will go up for the wealthy and for big corporations, and for hard-working middle-class families, costs will go down.

They should have written:

So I have made clear what my principles are here, and that is costs will go up for the wealthy and for big corporations. And for hard-working middle-class families, costs will go down.

Change a comma to a period, as she clearly intended, and there is no conflict with what she later says:

Costs are going to go up for the wealthy. They're going to go up for big corporations. They will not go up for middle-class families.

[SunSeeker]

19. Thank you. She has always been clear that costs will go down for the middle class. nt

[TidalWave46]

20. I'm not familiar with this level of impatience.

“ One has to wait for the end of the sentence”