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bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:46 PM Feb 2019

"How Amy Klobuchar Treats Her Staff" - New York Times

Last edited Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:10 PM - Edit history (1)

"Senator Amy Klobuchar was hungry, forkless and losing patience.

An aide, joining her on a trip to South Carolina in 2008, had procured a salad for his boss while hauling their bags through an airport terminal. But once onboard, he delivered the grim news: He had fumbled the plastic eating utensils before reaching the gate, and the crew did not have any forks on such a short flight.

What happened next was typical: Ms. Klobuchar berated her aide instantly for the slip-up. What happened after that was not: She pulled a comb from her bag and began eating the salad with it, according to four people familiar with the episode.

Then she handed the comb to her staff member with a directive: Clean it."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/us/politics/amy-klobuchar-staff.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

She doesn't have a very big following here (Only 2 percent, according to the Democratic Primaries thread statistics) but I thought this was an interesting enough article to share anyway.


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"How Amy Klobuchar Treats Her Staff" - New York Times (Original Post) bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 OP
I like her and will ignore all this sexist crap...ever see a guy with stories like this? Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #1
Yep, and here is this bullshit at DU...so sick of BASHING democrats around here Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #27
It is amazing how things go in primary season ripcord Feb 2019 #45
I am too. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #49
She must be a saint if that is all they can find...and given the ferocity of the attacks...someone Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #57
:) to "saint," but absolutely. Rachel Maddow's a big admirer, Hortensis Feb 2019 #61
i remember a video of John Edwards combing his hair to "I feel pretty" TeamPooka Feb 2019 #31
Well in all fairness Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #47
I remember that too. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #48
I like her too crazycatlady Feb 2019 #50
Well well snowybirdie Feb 2019 #2
At least there's some new material BeyondGeography Feb 2019 #3
Next you know, it will become her cat's "flea" comb. hlthe2b Feb 2019 #7
This has to stop. Leave her alone. Drop it. apcalc Feb 2019 #4
More just popped up. elleng Feb 2019 #10
Russian Propaganda type bull apcalc Feb 2019 #21
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #5
sexist claptrap... hlthe2b Feb 2019 #6
Bernie would never do this KayF Feb 2019 #8
That's funny BeyondGeography Feb 2019 #9
... jalan48 Feb 2019 #13
Really? Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #18
lol nt m-lekktor Feb 2019 #26
Or own one for that matter Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #28
LMAO! Polybius Feb 2019 #39
Lol MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #40
Fuck the NYT flotsam Feb 2019 #11
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #12
Link...and I don't believe it. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #19
That is a very tough accusation to make without some source, dont you think? Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #29
THE NEW YORK TIMES jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #14
Right...we are not the purity police so we should defend our candidates especially when attacked in Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #20
I don't even understand what you just said...sorry jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #22
The NYT has a history of truly disturbing Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #32
Such stories smack of people who are trying to find anything at all MineralMan Feb 2019 #15
I like Klobuchar. SaschaHM Feb 2019 #16
Who Cares???? LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #17
OMG Lazy Daisy Feb 2019 #23
i have used my fingers on salad before rampartc Feb 2019 #53
It is the reverse Little Mermaid crazycatlady Feb 2019 #62
She used a comb for a missing fork? Sounds resourceful Orangepeel Feb 2019 #24
The media has learned nothing from 2016 mcar Feb 2019 #25
NYT???? But what about HER EMAILS?????? apcalc Feb 2019 #30
Note to self: Either eat salad with hands Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #33
She was on a plane, rusty fender Feb 2019 #35
Just noise to me HopeAgain Feb 2019 #34
I like Klobuchar Politicub Feb 2019 #36
I have worked for male and female assholes...... USALiberal Feb 2019 #38
Reasonable position to take. IluvPitties Feb 2019 #41
Don't care about plastic forks, or combs. bernie59 Feb 2019 #37
It is remarkable how much traction this has received Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #42
I'm very interested in how she will respond to this marylandblue Feb 2019 #43
But was there arugula in that salad? Lettuce know the most important details, New York Times. betsuni Feb 2019 #44
More on her behaviour... SidDithers Feb 2019 #46
I Hope the Misogyny From the 2026 Election Isn't Forgotten dlk Feb 2019 #51
im concerned when i see this posted and shared..this is like the.. samnsara Feb 2019 #52
Oh come on. If every male Senator who berated his staff got an article like this Recursion Feb 2019 #54
LOL, nice try..... USALiberal Feb 2019 #55
This has an "Elliot Spitzer wears black socks" feel to it. JDC Feb 2019 #56
Are we recycling 2016's complaints about how HRC treated staff? JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2019 #58
Even though it's the NYT, I'm suspect of articles like this one. Call it the Russian influence Vinca Feb 2019 #59
This is so petty Beringia Feb 2019 #60
 

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
1. I like her and will ignore all this sexist crap...ever see a guy with stories like this?
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:49 PM
Feb 2019

I am undecided...not against anyone...I won't vote for Gabbard or Sanders in a primary but am open to all other candidates.

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Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
27. Yep, and here is this bullshit at DU...so sick of BASHING democrats around here
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:43 PM
Feb 2019
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ripcord

(5,537 posts)
45. It is amazing how things go in primary season
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:22 AM
Feb 2019

Is it really necessary to eat our own?

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Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
57. She must be a saint if that is all they can find...and given the ferocity of the attacks...someone
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 08:17 AM
Feb 2019

Is out to get her...Justice types or GOP-sometimes you can't tell.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
61. :) to "saint," but absolutely. Rachel Maddow's a big admirer,
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:52 AM
Feb 2019

and that's worth a lot to me. Rachel knows her personally, knows a great deal about all who may run, and is glad she's one of them.

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TeamPooka

(24,255 posts)
31. i remember a video of John Edwards combing his hair to "I feel pretty"
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:51 PM
Feb 2019
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Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
47. Well in all fairness
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:08 AM
Feb 2019

He did in fact, feel pretty.

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Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
48. I remember that too.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:17 AM
Feb 2019
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crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
50. I like her too
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:32 AM
Feb 2019

However, if these allegations about her staff are true, this needs to be said.

This could translate to high turnover for cabinet level officials.

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snowybirdie

(5,239 posts)
2. Well well
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:50 PM
Feb 2019

Gotta keep this one going, don't we? Does any reporter report on male candidates being crabby while hungary? Helping Putin folks

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BeyondGeography

(39,380 posts)
3. At least there's some new material
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:54 PM
Feb 2019

The comb bit is a keeper.

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hlthe2b

(102,372 posts)
7. Next you know, it will become her cat's "flea" comb.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:59 PM
Feb 2019
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apcalc

(4,465 posts)
4. This has to stop. Leave her alone. Drop it.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:55 PM
Feb 2019

It’s garbage.

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elleng

(131,118 posts)
10. More just popped up.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:02 PM
Feb 2019

I see putin, trump and mcconnell have their eyes on DU (as well as other places, I suspect.)

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apcalc

(4,465 posts)
21. Russian Propaganda type bull
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:23 PM
Feb 2019

We need to close ranks and crush this type of stuff. We already know “ they” are trying to cause divisions.

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hlthe2b

(102,372 posts)
6. sexist claptrap...
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:56 PM
Feb 2019

If that had been one of many male candidates experiencing a bit of frustration, hypoglycemia, exhaustion, or just being an ass, this would not be a story.

Of course, I'd hope she'd treat her staff well and be polite always, but everyone has their "days"...

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KayF

(1,345 posts)
8. Bernie would never do this
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:00 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Sun Mar 10, 2019, 09:48 PM - Edit history (1)

he doesn't own a comb.

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Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
28. Or own one for that matter
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:43 PM
Feb 2019
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Polybius

(15,481 posts)
39. LMAO!
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:26 PM
Feb 2019

He should though.

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MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
40. Lol
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:38 PM
Feb 2019

Anger Management: Sanders Fights for Employees, Except His Own

https://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/anger-management-sanders-fights-for-employees-except-his-own/Content?oid=2834657

"As a supervisor, he was unbelievably abusive," says one former campaign staffer, who claims to have endured frequent verbal assaults. The double standard was clear: "He did things that, if he found out that another supervisor was doing in a workplace, he would go after them. You can't treat employees that way."

Like several others quoted in this column, the campaign worker would speak only on the condition of anonymity, saying that to do otherwise would constitute "career suicide" in a small state such as Vermont. But others echoed the former employee's story, saying the senator is prone to fits of anger.

"Bernie was an asshole," says a Democratic insider who worked with Sanders on the campaign trail. "Just unnecessarily an asshole."

"He yelled in meetings all the time," says one of Sanders' former Senate staffers. "He'd yell, 'I don't want to hear excuses! I want to get it done!'"

"At his best, Sanders is a skilled reader and manipulator of people and events," Rosenfeld wrote. "At his worst, he falls prey to his own emotions, is unable to practice what he preaches (though he would believe otherwise) and exudes a contempt for those he derides, including his staff."
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flotsam

(3,268 posts)
11. Fuck the NYT
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:03 PM
Feb 2019

Trump is a Russian traitor selling nukes to Saudi Arabia who rapes underage children and a deli salad dispute is the news?

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Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
19. Link...and I don't believe it.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:21 PM
Feb 2019
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Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
29. That is a very tough accusation to make without some source, dont you think?
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:44 PM
Feb 2019

Talk about take TWO Democrats down in one swoop!

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jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
14. THE NEW YORK TIMES
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:07 PM
Feb 2019

is an excellent publication...you shouldn't yell fake news because you don't like the info in the article...you know who does that...NOT DEMS...the other guys...

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Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
20. Right...we are not the purity police so we should defend our candidates especially when attacked in
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:23 PM
Feb 2019

meaningless and sexist ways. By the way, It seems to me that other campaigns have had more serious issues such as sexual harrasment.

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jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
22. I don't even understand what you just said...sorry
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:29 PM
Feb 2019

it is a prestigious publication is what I am saying...and please don't get the impression that I am not opening a dialogue with you....I don't know you and will never meet you and this infighting is nuts...

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Voltaire2

(13,172 posts)
32. The NYT has a history of truly disturbing
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:56 PM
Feb 2019

editorial decisions despite being an excellent journalism institution. See for example it’s boosting of the Iraq War propaganda.

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MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
15. Such stories smack of people who are trying to find anything at all
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:09 PM
Feb 2019

they can use against a person who has no real flaws they can report.

What was this staff member or aide's name, pray tell? We could ask him about the incident, perhaps. That does not appear to have been revealed, though. Anonymous stories. Feh!

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SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
16. I like Klobuchar.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:14 PM
Feb 2019

However, the paid parental leave policy for her office is a complete travesty and I expect her to explain the reasoning behind it during the primary.

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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
17. Who Cares????
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:17 PM
Feb 2019

Seriously.......

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Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
23. OMG
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:32 PM
Feb 2019

Tell me it isn't so. Amy Klobuchar gets hangry? What will we do?

Where does she sit on $15 min wage? How about universal healthcare? Economic equality? Taxes? etc

Gotta give it to her though, I'd have never thought of using a comb as an eating utensil. I'd have gone full caveman and used my hands.

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rampartc

(5,435 posts)
53. i have used my fingers on salad before
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:46 AM
Feb 2019

so it is probably closer to "medieval " than "full cave man"

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crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
62. It is the reverse Little Mermaid
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 10:13 AM
Feb 2019

Ariel uses a fork (dinglehopper) to comb her hair.

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Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
24. She used a comb for a missing fork? Sounds resourceful
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:13 PM
Feb 2019

I’m not sure what the problem here is. That she didn’t say “please clean it?”

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mcar

(42,375 posts)
25. The media has learned nothing from 2016
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:39 PM
Feb 2019

Sexist, double standards, petty. Watch them normalize Dotard more and more as they clutch their pearls over the latest Dem "scandal!!11"

We must call them out. Every time.

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apcalc

(4,465 posts)
30. NYT???? But what about HER EMAILS??????
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:48 PM
Feb 2019

That paper kneecaps ppl. Eff the Times.

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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
33. Note to self: Either eat salad with hands
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:59 PM
Feb 2019

or find a pair of chopsticks, since every office has at least one hidden away somewhere

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rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
35. She was on a plane,
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 08:30 PM
Feb 2019

not in her office. She used what she had. Gross, but what can you do on a plane

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HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
34. Just noise to me
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 07:00 PM
Feb 2019

Dont plan to vote for her for her politics, nothing else.

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
36. I like Klobuchar
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:08 PM
Feb 2019

And would gladly cast my vote for her.

The tough boss tropes do stink of sexism.

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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
38. I have worked for male and female assholes......
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:15 PM
Feb 2019

all of them fired at some point.

I hate bullies.

If she says she has never thrown objects at a staff member I'll believe her. If not I believe the staff.

If this is a scam, where are the staff abuse stories about Harris or Warren???


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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
41. Reasonable position to take.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:43 PM
Feb 2019

I want Amy to clarify the allegations. I don't support assholes or abusive people, male or female.

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bernie59

(87 posts)
37. Don't care about plastic forks, or combs.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:14 PM
Feb 2019
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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
42. It is remarkable how much traction this has received
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:51 PM
Feb 2019

Obviously I support Klobuchar but I'm very confident if this variable attached to a different candidate I wouldn't particularly care about it, and similarly not understand how it could linger.

Again, if we had 100 check boxes a month ago toward an ideal nominee and "Treatment of Staff" was on the list, I wonder how high it would have slotted?

Now apparently it is supposed to be near the top.

As Nate Silver wrote a couple of weeks ago, this is not something that voters are likely to care about. If it surfaced smack during a fall presidential campaign I doubt it would be more than a blip, because by that point the nation would already have been introduced to Amy Klobuchar and made up their own mind about her.

It is more damaging now, as primary voters are like-minded and can be swayed by anything, with so many good choices in play. I can guarantee Amy would be above 2% here if this never surfaced.

When Donald Trump throws out a preposterous accusation during September 2020 we need someone who can react properly, or not react at all. Each circumstance is a mine field with varied choices required, depending on the charge. I would trust Amy to do fantastic in that situation. Likewise Beto and Sherrod Brown. A few others, IMO, would stumble repeatedly.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
43. I'm very interested in how she will respond to this
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:54 PM
Feb 2019

Every Democrat is going to be subject to smears, insults and stupid scandals. She needs fight back and turn it around. She'll never make it if she can't do that.

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betsuni

(25,623 posts)
44. But was there arugula in that salad? Lettuce know the most important details, New York Times.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:17 AM
Feb 2019

Is arugula still elitist or is it centrist now?

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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
46. More on her behaviour...
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:30 AM
Feb 2019




Unbelievable.



Sid
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dlk

(11,578 posts)
51. I Hope the Misogyny From the 2026 Election Isn't Forgotten
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:36 AM
Feb 2019

Here we go again... This isn’t even news.

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samnsara

(17,636 posts)
52. im concerned when i see this posted and shared..this is like the..
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:36 AM
Feb 2019

..crap about Di Fi and the little kids. We need to stop this. We shouldnt give this stuff a second thought. We are going to be bought and paid for like the gop if we dont stop this stuff now.

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
54. Oh come on. If every male Senator who berated his staff got an article like this
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:15 AM
Feb 2019

the NYT wouldn't have room to print anything else.

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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
55. LOL, nice try.....
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:26 AM
Feb 2019

And why only her for these stories, no other candidates??

Staff turnover rate was really high.

And this BS reply from Reid about telling her to treat her staff better.....

“A spokesman for Reid said the retired senator prefers not to discuss private conversations he had with other senators. In this case, Reid also does not remember whether or not he had this discussion with Klobuchar, the spokesman said.“

LOL, the old "do not recall" BS.

All she has to say is "I have NEVER thrown an object at my staff". Problem solved!

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JDC

(10,133 posts)
56. This has an "Elliot Spitzer wears black socks" feel to it.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 11:01 AM
Feb 2019

A visual element that is.

If this story said Trump ate a salad w a comb, we would first say No way Trump are a salad; we would then immediate say he is losing his mind.

These stories are supposedly "coming from inside the house." It makes me wonder if they are staffers looking to win points and get onto another Dem candidate's team <or> straight from another candidate's early recon to eliminate competition.

There is yet another story on HuffPo that states she personally prevented her staffers from advancing their careers. (I won't link that source).

Seems like a giant pile on by somebody. I don't discount our own being responsible.

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JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,367 posts)
58. Are we recycling 2016's complaints about how HRC treated staff?
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 08:50 AM
Feb 2019

Same old bots, same old complaints, different targets.

Yes, sometimes bosses snap at employees.

Wait, she used a comb as a fork, and THEN asked her aide to wash it? Ewww.

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Vinca

(50,304 posts)
59. Even though it's the NYT, I'm suspect of articles like this one. Call it the Russian influence
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:19 AM
Feb 2019

I guess. It seems no one wants to put their names on the charges against Klobuchar. She may be the world's worst boss, but it might be Ivan in Moscow who's pushing the story. The NYT would do well to cite some sources if they want to come off as anything but a tool for promoting disruption amongst Democrats.

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