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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 08:31 PM Mar 2019

Beto too nice?

https://pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/article_1d2d8e71-0c5f-5b67-a0e2-8cb8eb57f951.html

O’Rourke minivan tour risks being too nice for anti-Trump party

His youthful vigor allows him to hop onto coffee house counters in a single bound and drive himself to campaign events, but Beto O’Rourke may be lacking a qualification some Democratic voters are looking for: a thirst for combat with Republicans and Donald Trump.

Campaigning across Iowa and Wisconsin during the weekend as a newly minted 2020 presidential candidate, O’Rourke frequently talked about his willingness to cooperate with those of differing political stripes. It echoed the sort of calls former President Barack Obama made during his 2008 campaign for political civility that became elusive during his tenure.

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But the Texan’s approach contrasts with some other Democratic presidential candidates who have been highly critical of Trump and Republicans in general. It also risks making him look like someone who won’t throw punches at a time his party is searching for a candidate who can compete against Trump’s street-fighting style on a debate stage, Twitter and elsewhere.

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The former Texas congressman’s bipartisan tone could be an advantage in a general election, but it’s an open question whether it will resonate with the progressive base that dominates the nomination process and is increasingly defined by its opposition to corporate America, the wealthy and Republicans.

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“We should never demean of vilify or speak ill of others who are running for these offices, even if they’re on the other side of the aisle,” O’Rourke said during a weekend recording of a local political podcast in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. “Not only is that, I believe, the right way for us to act. It is perhaps the only way for us to accomplish our goal.”

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That approach contrasts with some other candidates. Sens. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts are prime examples of those with more confrontational styles.



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Beto too nice? (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 OP
Oh good grief RandySF Mar 2019 #1
lol ! stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #2
FUCK THAT JI7 Mar 2019 #3
lol! Cha Mar 2019 #10
Yes, I think he's too nice. marylandblue Mar 2019 #4
Me too ! Trump is the giant elephant in the room. Biggest giant elephant ever. 10x Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #5
We can take Trump's bait or realize it is poison Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #6
You don't try to beat him at his own game. You turn the attack around in your own way. marylandblue Mar 2019 #7
Obama and Bill Clinton were both guys you would want to have a beer or donut with. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #8
And if he were to get angry NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #9
So, Beto is apparently "too nice" and yet some female candidates "aren't likable enough"? George II Mar 2019 #11
Missing point. Letting trump get away with Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #13
Beto was absolutely dragged when he went negative against Cruz. Socal31 Mar 2019 #12
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. Yes, I think he's too nice.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 08:53 PM
Mar 2019

Remember when Biden threatened to beat the hell out of Trump for disrespecting women? I liked that

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Laura PourMeADrink

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5. Me too ! Trump is the giant elephant in the room. Biggest giant elephant ever. 10x
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:02 PM
Mar 2019

bigger than King Kong. when you ignore him, people think, "WTF, don't you SEE that! " clever, funny, mocking great too

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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
6. We can take Trump's bait or realize it is poison
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:05 PM
Mar 2019

I'm afraid we will prioritize a barker without understanding it would be treated as equivalency, essentially justifying Trump's tactics.

Beto or Klobuchar would calmly frustrate Trump beyond anyone else in his life. He would curse them every night the remainder of his life.

Contrast defeats the holder. Top boxers always laugh if you try to beat them at their own game.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. You don't try to beat him at his own game. You turn the attack around in your own way.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:17 PM
Mar 2019

Klobuchar did it well. When she was attacked for abusing her staff, she responded that she is a tough boss. When they made a big deal about using a comb to eat, she called herself resourceful. That's her style. Biden is scrappier. Beto will need responses consistent with his own style.

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McCamy Taylor

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8. Obama and Bill Clinton were both guys you would want to have a beer or donut with.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:05 PM
Mar 2019

There is no such thing as "too nice."

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NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
9. And if he were to get angry
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:28 PM
Mar 2019

or act impatient, or interrupt someone, these very same people would tear into him.

Watch it. The media is up to the same old shit again.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
11. So, Beto is apparently "too nice" and yet some female candidates "aren't likable enough"?
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 10:18 AM
Mar 2019

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What is the "happy medium" and who fits that profile?

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. Missing point. Letting trump get away with
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 11:50 PM
Mar 2019

everything but not mentioning versus being a huge asshole to your employees. Huge difference. Both bad imho.

So sick of "we don't want to act like trump. No shit Sherlocks. No one suggesting that. But if our candidate doesn't have enough wit and brains to spar with trump on occasion...we r doomed.

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Socal31

(2,484 posts)
12. Beto was absolutely dragged when he went negative against Cruz.
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 03:47 PM
Mar 2019
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