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mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:29 AM Oct 2019

Debate about health care plans

are so ridiculous in a debate because whoever is elected will NEVER have their plan implemented exactly as they want it. Why can't the candidates just say hey...this is what I believe will work but I'm willing to listen to other solutions as President, just so we do as much as we possibly can to make the system work for the best for the most people. That is what they will have to do in the long run anyway! Why not be honest? The debates are all about getting the "gotcha" moment.

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Debate about health care plans (Original Post) mindfulNJ Oct 2019 OP
Actually, there are health plans that are financially feasible, and those that are not empedocles Oct 2019 #1
Do you think 30 seconds is enough time mindfulNJ Oct 2019 #2
I think it's up DownriverDem Oct 2019 #6
No it won't appeal to all. mindfulNJ Oct 2019 #8
30 minutes would not make it realistic empedocles Oct 2019 #7
why is it not realistic? mindfulNJ Oct 2019 #9
Because they said so. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #13
EW herself kept dodging that very issue last night empedocles Oct 2019 #10
I don't think she was dodging. mindfulNJ Oct 2019 #11
The underlying reality here, is single-payer, [which makes good conceptual sense empedocles Oct 2019 #12
She should reframe the question wellst0nev0ter Oct 2019 #14
unless we get the senate no plans will ever be carried out. samnsara Oct 2019 #3
Totally agree mindfulNJ Oct 2019 #5
there maybe a bigger concern... myohmy2 Oct 2019 #4
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
1. Actually, there are health plans that are financially feasible, and those that are not
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:40 AM
Oct 2019
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mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
2. Do you think 30 seconds is enough time
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:45 AM
Oct 2019

to be able to explain how a health care plan will work in detail for a country of 300 million people?

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DownriverDem

(6,230 posts)
6. I think it's up
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:34 AM
Oct 2019

to the candidates to explain where they are coming from. Too many folks have their heads in the sky. Do you honestly think Medicare for All will appeal to all? Just ask Seniors who vote big time how they feel about it.

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mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
8. No it won't appeal to all.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:40 AM
Oct 2019

Nothing ever does. We need to start down a path to a universal system like the rest of the world has already. I don't know many seniors who aren't happy to have their Medicare benefit.

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empedocles

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7. 30 minutes would not make it realistic
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:34 AM
Oct 2019
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mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
9. why is it not realistic?
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:43 AM
Oct 2019

The rest of the world seems to be able to do this for their people.

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Act_of_Reparation

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13. Because they said so.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 12:01 PM
Oct 2019

Everyone's a wonk. Everyone's a pundit. Everyone's a fucking expert at everything.

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empedocles

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10. EW herself kept dodging that very issue last night
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:44 AM
Oct 2019
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Undecided
 

mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
11. I don't think she was dodging.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:55 AM
Oct 2019

She was refusing to be trapped by the gotcha that they were trying to get her with. It's a complicated issue that a yes or no question doesn't fully explain...this is why I hate debates.

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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
12. The underlying reality here, is single-payer, [which makes good conceptual sense
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 11:49 AM
Oct 2019

to me], is political gold for socialist voters in primaries, and political poison, in the general election.

Debates, like them or not, [trump hates any actual debates], do have their place in a democracy - [which trump hates].

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wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
14. She should reframe the question
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 03:26 PM
Oct 2019

And ask which idiot would pass up the chance to keep $9,000 of their own money every year -- and much more if they suffer from a catastrophic illness?

Also the total health care cost is premised on a status quo in which insulin that costs $4 to make is sold for $400 a month. You have to be insane to accept and defend such a system.

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samnsara

(17,625 posts)
3. unless we get the senate no plans will ever be carried out.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:47 AM
Oct 2019

...and i agree about the gotcha... thats why i have not watched a single debate. we are all going to vote for the dem nom anyway..why watch this blood bath?

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mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
5. Totally agree
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:11 AM
Oct 2019

I think I watched my last Dem debate last night. I'll wait for our eventual candidate to debate whoever the Repubs are "stuck with" as Elizabeth said last night.

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myohmy2

(3,168 posts)
4. there maybe a bigger concern...
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:55 AM
Oct 2019

...many believe trump was elected because Dems had lost their way over the years and now Dems taking a strong stand on where and how we want to lead the country is imperative...

...I think that could be part of it...

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