Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumDoes anyone believe that most children of celebrities and public figures don't benefit from their
parent's position?
Ivy League Schools, Law firms, better jobs, etc.
It is a long list, and it crosses party lines
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)And they are not celebrities or public figures.
In my case, there has never even been the appearance of ethical impropriety. Same is true for the children of many celebrities and public figures.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)put the children of those parents in a special category?
It doesn't have to be explicitly said
While not the same thing, it is parallel to what some refer to as "white privlege"
Also, I am only referring to celebrities and public figures, because by their status, willingly or not, their name opens doors that others would not be able to
It goes on all the time, especially among politicians, and across party lines
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Take positions that give the appearance of ethical concerns. Some do. Some dont. Just saying they benefit adds nothing to the conversation with respect to the Bidens. No one thinks there wasnt the appearance of a violation of ethics. No one who isnt partisan or part of a cult of personality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doodley
(9,094 posts)of a company based in another country? First, there's a conflict of interests and second, why is he there? I have these same concerns, in fact, much more so, about the Trump family. It is unethical. It puts at risk the quality of our own democracy, and I don't say this from any partisan standpoint or as part of a cult.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)I say that respectfully.
"You don't see a problem when the son of a US politician hoping to be president, sits on the board of a company based in another country?" I do and stated as much.
"First, there's a conflict of interests and second, why is he there?" Fully agree. Both are ethical issues on face value with the potential for much worse.
"I have these same concerns, in fact, much more so, about the Trump family." Fully agree
"I don't say this from any partisan standpoint or as part of a cult." You wouldn't be saying this if you took part in the cult of personality. Not all of us are afflicted with the disease.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)Donnie Dotard, of all people, tried to make it one.
And if has nothing to do with Joe Biden. Why are we letting them do this? We always do, while the Rs get away with worse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doodley
(9,094 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Just sayin.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Otto Lidenbrock
(581 posts)The press made a big song and dance about it and President Carter did a phone-in with Walter Cronkite where among callers asking about energy, foreign policy and inflation, someone called just to ask why the daughter of the President of the United States attended public school!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
secondwind
(16,903 posts)The Carter, Clinton, Obama girls are perfect examples.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)In all the years while we don't know the person is going to ever be a candidate? Plus, you are talking about adult children, not the person themselves.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,455 posts)without any irony
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)the prominence of a parent. I have no idea why people are acting like that reality is something new.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Any parent wants to give their spawn a leg up on everyone else. If the family name helps in that regard, so be it. Anyone with a brain should realize that Hunter Biden, Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump Jr, Eric Trump get before powerful people due to who they are. The issue is what those people choose to do when doors are opened for them, Hunter Biden appears to have behaved ethically, we have seen plenty of cases wher none of the Trump children save his youngest daughter and son have.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)I haven't dug into the Hunter thing (because I think it's mostly BS), but if he wasn't qualified for that job, it sure sounds like some people wanted to get a U.S. VP's kid into their company and throw some money at him, because who knows... maybe he will be able to help you out at some point, maybe just by having your problems heard. That alone can be hard to do sometimes.
Obviously, there hasn't been any evidence he did help them out, or ever talked to his father about things that could help them out. But it doesn't look too good from the outside.
It goes back to the thing you're supposed to avoid: not just conflicts of interest, but the APPEARANCE of them. That's the high bar. I'm not sure it was met here.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided