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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:43 PM Oct 2019

Tulsi Gabbard's spiritual guru: "Muslims are demons"

Tulsi’s cult / sect encourages its members to run for office.





From the article

alongside what appears to be a 2018 video of Gabbard attending a ceremony in which she and other attendees are seen giving praise to an altar carrying a framed photo of Butler.
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Tulsi Gabbard's spiritual guru: "Muslims are demons" (Original Post) sharedvalues Oct 2019 OP
ASSOCIATIONS !!! Iggo Oct 2019 #1
This is her cult leader sharedvalues Oct 2019 #2
I sure wish you were wrong mahina Oct 2019 #8
re: "If you donated to Tulsi Gabbard, she's funneled much of your money to her cult" thesquanderer Oct 2019 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author sharedvalues Oct 2019 #15
One of her top vendors. From the article (Honolulu newspaper) sharedvalues Oct 2019 #16
Yes, I read that article. None of it counters anything I said. (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2019 #17
Reminds me obnoxiousdrunk Oct 2019 #4
. Iggo Oct 2019 #5
Nothing like that. This is her cult leader sharedvalues Oct 2019 #9
I know who she is, I know what she is, and I know where she came from. Iggo Oct 2019 #18
It literally isn't the same thing, it isn't "Wrighting" obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #22
You're right. They're not exactly the same thing at all. Iggo Oct 2019 #24
Yes, it's ummm different. kcr Oct 2019 #33
Talkin' 'bout the smearers, not the smeared. Iggo Oct 2019 #35
The Democratic Party Iliyah Oct 2019 #3
She's embraced this HER WHOLE LIFE!!!! sharedvalues Oct 2019 #10
always ironic when one religion calls another one "bullshit" Skittles Oct 2019 #6
This is not a religion, it is literally a hateful cult obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #23
GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.... AZ8theist Oct 2019 #7
Yeah. Read more about her sect. It's pretty scary sharedvalues Oct 2019 #11
The 8th Day After Menstruation, Use Two Pigeons As An Offering DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #13
+1... SidDithers Oct 2019 #14
It's not the doctrine that makes a cult FreeState Oct 2019 #20
AMWAY keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #27
cheap Malcom Manning Oct 2019 #19
Welcome to DU Malcolm! sharedvalues Oct 2019 #26
She regularly appeared on FOX and bashed Obama. She met with trump after his election. She's... brush Oct 2019 #30
That's exactly what Malcolm Nance says... MontanaMama Oct 2019 #32
Nice first post! DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #36
It is a wingnut, hateful cult obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #21
100% with you sharedvalues Oct 2019 #25
The Flinstones had a dog... awesomerwb1 Oct 2019 #28
Any political figure that speaks like this, PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #29
This is the core of my problem with her. She repudiated the anti-gay, but what the hell else has NCLefty Oct 2019 #31
Me too sharedvalues Oct 2019 #34
Smears MarkK1955 Oct 2019 #37
I have good friends who are Muslim precinct chairs in my county Gothmog Oct 2019 #38
 

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
2. This is her cult leader
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:55 PM
Oct 2019

She funnels money from her campaign to another cult member who lives alone in the woods in Washington state and has no other political clients.

Her cult is a critical part of her life and story. She’s way closer with her cult leader than most politicians are with their preachers.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287281984

If you donated to Tulsi Gabbard, she's funneled much of your money to her cult

Big investigative piece on Gabbard in a Hawaiian newspaper

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mahina

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8. I sure wish you were wrong
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 02:23 AM
Oct 2019

But you aren’t.

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thesquanderer

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12. re: "If you donated to Tulsi Gabbard, she's funneled much of your money to her cult"
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:08 AM
Oct 2019

No, she used a small percentage (looks like probably around 5%) of her contributions to pay a consultant, who belongs to the same religious congregation that she does. Whether you want to call it a cult or not, it's fundamentally no different than if a candidate hired someone s/he originally met from attending the same church. The questions of whether that person is qualified for the job and has provided services commensurate with the amount paid are valid things to ask about, but there's nothing inherently wrong with hiring someone you already know, regardless of where and how you met them.

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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
16. One of her top vendors. From the article (Honolulu newspaper)
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:42 AM
Oct 2019
STEHEKIN, Wash. — Deep in the Washington state wilderness, a highly paid political consultant is raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars from U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s presidential campaign.

It’s the kind of money usually spent on national name-brand political operatives with bustling offices and large staffs based in Washington, D.C., or New York.

But few people in the business have ever heard of Kris Robinson, the owner of Northwest Digital, a web design and internet marketing firm working for Gabbard’s campaign. His company address is a P.O. box here in Stehekin, a remote village in the Northern Cascades mountains that’s famous for its isolation.

....

Yet in the first six months of 2019, federal campaign finance records show Gabbard paid Robinson and his company more than $259,000.

A second-tier candidate in a shrinking but still large field of Democrats seeking to oust Republican President Donald Trump, Gabbard did not qualify for the September debates.

Robinson is one of her top vendors. The only companies receiving more money in the first half of 2019 were Google, for internet advertising, and Revolution Messaging, a well-known digital firm in Washington, D.C., that ran U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential primary campaign against Hillary Clinton.

Revolution Messaging and Gabbard parted ways shortly after she announced her candidacy.
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thesquanderer

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17. Yes, I read that article. None of it counters anything I said. (n/t)
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 10:19 AM
Oct 2019
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obnoxiousdrunk

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4. Reminds me
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:09 AM
Oct 2019

of the Reverend Wright association.

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sharedvalues

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9. Nothing like that. This is her cult leader
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 08:52 AM
Oct 2019

She was raised in this cult.
Cult members work on her campaign in shady ways.
The cult tells its members to run for political office.
She has not called out the cult.

It’s nothing like Rev Wright. Totally a different level.

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Iggo

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18. I know who she is, I know what she is, and I know where she came from.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:56 PM
Oct 2019

I also know a reverendwrighting when I see one.

This doesn't need to happen. She has no chance to win the nomination.

When we do shit like this, we come out looking EXACTLY the same as the people who did it to Obama.

Because it's the same thing.

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obamanut2012

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22. It literally isn't the same thing, it isn't "Wrighting"
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 08:16 PM
Oct 2019
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Iggo

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24. You're right. They're not exactly the same thing at all.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:53 PM
Oct 2019

Because as you can see, one is trying to smear a candidate by linking them to the words and actions of their supposed spiritual leader, and the other one is...um...different?

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kcr

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33. Yes, it's ummm different.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:10 AM
Oct 2019

People who profess they can't tell the difference between a religion and a cult are either naive or trying to recruit members for a cult. Members of a cult aren't fit to lead a country.

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Iggo

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35. Talkin' 'bout the smearers, not the smeared.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 01:02 PM
Oct 2019

You knew that, right?

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Iliyah

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3. The Democratic Party
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:01 AM
Oct 2019

encompasses all walks, from left, middle, and conservative, all religions (hopefully with the exception of Satanism).

But this is a bit much. I hope she does not embrace this.

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sharedvalues

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10. She's embraced this HER WHOLE LIFE!!!!
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 08:53 AM
Oct 2019

Aaargh. This is bad stuff

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Skittles

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6. always ironic when one religion calls another one "bullshit"
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:54 AM
Oct 2019
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obamanut2012

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23. This is not a religion, it is literally a hateful cult
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 08:17 PM
Oct 2019
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AZ8theist

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7. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK....
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:51 AM
Oct 2019

Someone has a "spiritual guru" and we are supposed to take this individual SERIOUSLY???

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sharedvalues

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11. Yeah. Read more about her sect. It's pretty scary
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 08:53 AM
Oct 2019
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DrFunkenstein

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13. The 8th Day After Menstruation, Use Two Pigeons As An Offering
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:23 AM
Oct 2019

“If a woman has a discharge of blood for many days, not at the time of her menstrual impurity, or if she has a discharge beyond the time of her impurity, all the days of the discharge she shall continue in uncleanness. As in the days of her impurity, she shall be unclean.

26 Every bed on which she lies, all the days of her discharge, shall be to her as the bed of her impurity. And everything on which she sits shall be unclean, as in the uncleanness of her menstrual impurity.

27 And whoever touches these things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes and bathe himself in water and be unclean until the evening.

28 But if she is cleansed of her discharge, she shall count for herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean.

29 And on the eighth day she shall take two turtledoves or two pigeons and bring them to the priest, to the entrance of the tent of meeting.

30 And the priest shall use one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. And the priest shall make atonement for her before the Lord for her unclean discharge.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+15&version=ESV

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SidDithers

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14. +1...
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:29 AM
Oct 2019

It's all a matter of perspective, isn't it.



Sid

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FreeState

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20. It's not the doctrine that makes a cult
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 03:28 PM
Oct 2019

But their behavior.


https://freedomofmind.com/bite-model/

Steven Hassan is the world’s leading expert in cults. He wrote a book called “Combating Cult Mind Control,” which provides a framework for assessing how cult-like an organization is (or isn’t). He has developed the BITE Model – which categorizes cult-like behavior into four domains:

Behavior Control,
Information Control,
Thought Control, and
Emotional Manipulation and Control.

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19. cheap
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 02:53 PM
Oct 2019

I only care what a candidate does,
To assign guilt by association is vile, Tulsi gabbard is a progressive Democrat with ability attract independents and to peel away trump voters to the Democrats,
Whyt are we eating our own?

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brush

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30. She regularly appeared on FOX and bashed Obama. She met with trump after his election. She's...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:33 AM
Oct 2019

a Breitbart favorite. She cozies up to Assad. She was on the short liest for trumps cabinet.

A progressive Democrat? Highly doubtful, more like a mole in our party.

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MontanaMama

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32. That's exactly what Malcolm Nance says...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:44 AM
Oct 2019

that Gabbard is Putin's plant in the Dem party. The fact that she doesn’t support impeachment is a tell.

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DrFunkenstein

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36. Nice first post!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:46 PM
Oct 2019

Hope more people start thinking your way.

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obamanut2012

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21. It is a wingnut, hateful cult
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 08:15 PM
Oct 2019

And, I have no idea why more people don't talk about it, like we did Romney's LDS views and beliefs.

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sharedvalues

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25. 100% with you
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 10:16 PM
Oct 2019

Mitt Romney is and was a scummy Republican liar who smeared Obama nonstop about BS and could not tell the truth through his entire campaign.

And even Romney’s religion is nothing even close to as bad as Gabbard’s.

Gabbard is part of a wingnut cult that literally has a guru that they follow. It’s not Hinduism despite their efforts to call it such. It’s a charismatic cult with a male leader who asks them to follow him and his personality.

This is David Koresh-level, Moonie-level insanity. It’s not Hinduism, it’s not Baptist Protestantism, it’s not even Mormonism (which I grant you, is fairly crazy).

Tulsi Gabbard belongs to a charismatic cult that seeks power by asking its members to run for office.

That alone should be disqualifying.

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awesomerwb1

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28. The Flinstones had a dog...
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:15 PM
Oct 2019

what was his name again?

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PoindexterOglethorpe

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29. Any political figure that speaks like this,
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:56 PM
Oct 2019

that trashes any entire religious group simply isn't fit to hold office in this country.

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NCLefty

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31. This is the core of my problem with her. She repudiated the anti-gay, but what the hell else has
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 06:51 AM
Oct 2019

been stuffed inside her head by these superstitious wackos? I can't even think about trusting her.

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sharedvalues

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34. Me too
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:56 PM
Oct 2019

She has said some things.
But I just can’t trust anyone who deeply believes in what is effectively a charismatic cult.

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MarkK1955

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37. Smears
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:14 PM
Oct 2019

Every day the supporters of the military industrial security complex puts out new smears on Tulsi. Every day support for her grows.

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Gothmog

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38. I have good friends who are Muslim precinct chairs in my county
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:53 PM
Oct 2019

I am Jewish and we joke that we have more in common compared to some of the other precinct chairs

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